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Old 03-11-2010, 10:06 AM   #1
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As a few here know, my T5 transmission gave up the ghost about two weeks ago. I am just getting the car back this weekend due to another reason all together. Since the car is VA, I had an interesting offer and I am torn about taking it up or saving a few hundred dollars.

The offer was from one of the premier FFR challenge car builders and drivers. He said he would go pick the trailer and car up. Look at what needs to be done and if it is what we suspect then he will replace the transmission and clutch pack , and make sure everything is straight and aligned on the shifting parts for around $500 plus parts.

On the other hand, I have done more than a couple of transmissions and clutches before and I am comfortable doing them. I have not done a Ford or a FFR before though. Having an expert go though it seems like a great idea, but $500 bucks is significant at least in this house hold plus I can become more familiar with the car.

What are some thoughts about this here?
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:10 AM   #2
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i'd vote for doing it yourself if you can.
No one is going to put the same care into your car as you are. I've learned that the hard way...even with good shops
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:10 AM   #3
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If you're comfortable doing the work and you have all the tools and bits and pieces, go for it.

For myself, I'd pay. I've never swapped a transmission before and would certainly botch it the first time.
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:12 AM   #4
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i'd vote for doing it yourself if you can.
No one is going to put the same care into your car as you are. I've learned that the hard way...even with good shops

true, but this kind of like having a young Enzo work on your Ferrari.

He's one of the guys that help create the whole Challenge car series.
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sounds like you have your mind set already
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If he's that spectacular, get him to sign your dashboard or something when he's done with the work.
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:15 AM   #7
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sounds like you have your mind set already
No, I really like my $500 bucks, plus I can learn a lot from it. The job is going to be in the thousands no matter what.

That's a lot of the tire and brake money gone.
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:16 AM   #8
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If he's that spectacular, get him to sign your dashboard or something when he's done with the work.

Funny part is the car was built by one of his direct rivals.
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:49 AM   #9
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What are some thoughts about this here?
I suggest you do it yourself, since you say you know your way around a transmission and the T5 is extremely easy to work on in all respects. It's easy to remove and replace, easy to disassemble and reassemble, and requires no special service tools. You will need pin punches, snap ring pliers, a press, a bearing seperator, a pair of calipers and a dial indicator.

The transmission is well documented all over the web (the service manual can be downloaded and you can buy service videos), and parts are plentiful and comparatively cheap.
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This is going to be replaced, not rebuilt. I am going with a T5Z-HD instead of the T5WC. The stock T5's just don't seem to hold up in racing situations. The other option was the TKO, but that adds 40 lbs.

Also, I know about replacing trans and clutches, not rebuilding the transmissions.
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:03 AM   #11
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This is going to be replaced, not rebuilt. I am going with a T5Z-HD instead of the T5WC. The stock T5's just don't seem to hold up in racing situations. The other option was the TKO, but that adds 40 lbs.

Also, I know about replacing trans and clutches, not rebuilding the transmissions.
If you are just replacing it it is completely ridiculous to pay someone. The T5's bellhousing to transmission bolts are external. After removing the driveshaft, shifter, and potentially getting the exhaust out of the way, you remove 4 bolts and slide the trans straight back right out of the bellhousing, which stays on the engine. Then you have all the room in the world if you need to remove the bell to get at the clutch.

It is the easiest transmission you'll ever R&R.
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If you are just replacing it it is completely ridiculous to pay someone. The T5's bellhousing to transmission bolts are external. After removing the driveshaft, shifter, and potentially getting the exhaust out of the way, you remove 4 bolts and slide the trans straight back right out of the bellhousing, which stays on the engine. Then you have all the room in the world if you need to remove the bell to get at the clutch.

It is the easiest transmission you'll ever R&R.
that's a lot easier than the miata was. What about checking items like the straightness or true of the fork and other items that t5's seem to have issues with. I guess there is probably a good list on the web somewhere on what to check.
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that's a lot easier than the miata was. What about checking items like the straightness or true of the fork and other items that t5's seem to have issues with. I guess there is probably a good list on the web somewhere on what to check.
Forks are aluminum and cost about $20 each. The 1-2 and 3-4 forks come out as part of the case top cover. Again, stupid easy.

The official service manual is here:
http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English...0-0199_173.pdf

And there are other resources all over.

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Old 03-11-2010, 11:49 AM   #14
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If you are just replacing it it is completely ridiculous to pay someone. The T5's bellhousing to transmission bolts are external. After removing the driveshaft, shifter, and potentially getting the exhaust out of the way, you remove 4 bolts and slide the trans straight back right out of the bellhousing, which stays on the engine. Then you have all the room in the world if you need to remove the bell to get at the clutch.

It is the easiest transmission you'll ever R&R.
What he said. I was replacing T5's on my back in a driveway when I was 19. Just make sure you have an alignment tool. They are like $5 @ pepboys or just use a broken input shaft off of an old T5.
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