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Old 03-12-2010, 08:49 AM   #1
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The Cayman will cost you £45,499 before options, while a 1999-2005 GT3 can be had from £35,000 for a Mk1 and £45k for a tidy Mk2. Both are unadulterated driverís cars, both robust enough for regular road and track use and both sufficiently desired that their depreciation curves are navigable without too much pain.

The GT3 Bremner sampled was a well-kept Comfort version belonging to Nigel von Tunzelman. It is from the second batch of 996 GT3s, with 376bhp rather than the 355bhp of the first series, but either way youíre getting a car more special than those extreme spoilers imply. The key is its engine, this water-cooled flat six based on the unit used for the turbocharged 1998 Le Mans-winning GT1.

The GT3 may be a classic in waiting, but so is the latest Cayman S. Its new 3.4-litre, direct-injection flat six now delivers 316bhp rather than its predecessorís 261bhp, it rides on slightly wider tyres and the power steering map has been altered slightly.

It instantly scores over the 996 with a classier, tidier and quieter cabin, although road roar from the optional 19in tyres sometimes drowns out the radio. The Cayman is more surprising for its sheer get-up-and-go pace, which is mighty impressive for what, in the end, is a lower-order Porsche.

B-roads are the recommended habitat for the GT3 if youíre not slaying seconds on circuits. It will cruise motorways happily enough and has the pace to shrink them massively, but for demon thrills to get you addicted, find a swooping open road, spin the yowling six beyond 4500rpm and learn all about the magic of weapons-grade 911s.

Given that one of these Porsches is almost a racer, you might expect its running costs to make you wince, but Specialist Cars of Malton says the GT3ís servicing outlays are as for the standard 996: an intermediate service costs £210, the 12k £240 and the 24k £430.

The Caymanís costs are the same, if spread over longer intervals of 10k, 20k and 40k, but the GT3 will probably cost usefully less to own overall, despite its pricier appetites for fuel and brake pads, because depreciation will be low.
Its values are buoyed by limited supply Ė Porsche sold only 193 Mk1 996 GT3s and 221 Mk2s Ė so the GT3 the shrewder buy financially. You could just about live with it as a daily car as well, in return for huge occasional driving highs.

But this car is best enjoyed in the way Porsche intended, as a track-day missile and entertainment toy. If youíre a multi-car household and can afford it, buy now. But if your choice must be your daily driver, it has to be the Cayman S.

Its scope for combining practicality with the capacity to thrill is near unrivalled at this price.

Read the full article in this week's Autocar magazine, which is on sale now.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/248135/











The Cayman will cost more to own because depreciation on the GT3 will be low
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I wish Porsche would provide a higher spec model of the Cayman with the 3.8L engine.
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Old 03-12-2010, 09:22 AM   #3
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I question the relevance of this article... RHD cars depreciate a lot faster than LHD. Agreed on the engine options for the Cayman though; like the look and the layout but the power is a bit wimpy. I think it'll remain that way so it doesn't encroach on the 'real' 911s though.
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Sounds like an economist wrote this. When I buy a car though, I consider what I like/can afford more so then down the road depreciation. Oh well.
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6GT3 is an all-time favorite driving experience.
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Old 03-12-2010, 09:48 AM   #6
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Depreciate is a huge hidden cost. Some cars (this can be applied to many luxury items) have a floor price that it will never go below as long as it is kept in good condition. Buy a mildly used vehicle that you love near that floor price, keep it in good condition, enjoy owning one for a few years and then sell it. In many situations, you one will end up spending less money overall than a new midsize family sedan.
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Short term depreciation. That GT3 will start going up in price sooner and faster than the Cayman, plus. It's a GT3. I know what I'd buy.
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I wish Porsche would provide a higher spec model of the Cayman with the 3.8L engine.
That would be sublime...

But it would embarrass big sister far too much. The current Cayman S is nipping at the 997's heels too much, as it is, even with the power deficit.

Someday, I'd love to buy a Cayman S near it's depreciation floor, but still in good shape, and swap a 3.8 liter power-package engine into it (997.2 Carrera S+ =~405hp, naturally aspirated) or a GT3 engine...

With PDK/PASM/SportChrono, and a limited slip diff, and maybe dressed a bit like Boxster Spyder's lightweight duds... That would be one heck of a performance car. The thing is, I would also want a Carrera 4S Grand Touring car for normal and seasonal driving.
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Used Cayman plus LSD and turbo =

These two cars in the article are not really related, so might as well throw in my preferred option The choice seems to be personal preference in this comparo.
TPCRacing Cayman S Turbo (many others, just one example)
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That would be sublime...

But it would embarrass big sister far too much. The current Cayman S is nipping at the 997's heels too much, as it is, even with the power deficit.

Someday, I'd love to buy a Cayman S near it's depreciation floor, but still in good shape, and swap a 3.8 liter power-package engine into it (997.2 Carrera S+ =~405hp, naturally aspirated) or a GT3 engine...

With PDK/PASM/SportChrono, and a limited slip diff, and maybe dressed a bit like Boxster Spyder's lightweight duds... That would be one heck of a performance car. The thing is, I would also want a Carrera 4S Grand Touring car for normal and seasonal driving.

Correct is right. Clarkson on TopGear said it best - to misquote him, it was something along the lines that the Cayman's design is fundamentally a better design (mid engine layout) to the rear engined 911...and that the Cayman was effectively handicapped (or given a power smack dab between the Boxster and the 911), in order to keep the 911's ascendancy

I'll have to look for that clip somewhere..........
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