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Old 12-04-2014, 08:22 AM   #1
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Ambient Temp: ~40 degrees Fahrenheit
Elevation: 40 feet above sea level
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Car: 2011 WRX Hatchback - Base model
Tuner: Lou Lieberman @ Procom Racing
Dyno Info: Mustang MD-AWD-500
Transmission: 5spd
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 405 @ ~6280RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 385 @ ~4300RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: 220whp Stock 2.5 STi
Target Boost: 23.5 psi
Target AFR: 11.2
Fuel: 93 octane

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Akuma Motorsports Stage 1 Block with Wiseco Pistons + STI nitrated crank and rods + ARP studs
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Fuel Injector Clinic 900cc injectors
Deatschwerks DW65C fuel pump
NGK 1 step colder spark plugs
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Driveline Modifications:
Exedy Stage 1 Clutch

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H&R Street Coilovers
Eibach front and rear Swaybars with Kartboy Endlinks

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18x9.5 +38 Enkei RPF1 wheels



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Old 12-04-2014, 09:51 AM   #2
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No way the most you could get is 360 out of a 1.5xt my buddy has same setup on the mustang dyno he only got 340 because no fmic
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Old 12-04-2014, 09:52 AM   #3
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Are you running an ewg?
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:18 AM   #4
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No way the most you could get is 360 out of a 1.5xt my buddy has same setup on the mustang dyno he only got 340 because no fmic

My Dom 1.5 with the 2.4" inlet did 353 whp on Surgeline's mustang Dyno at just under 21 psi. Tuner told me their was more power left in it and that the factory intake was holding me back. That was with an IWG and tmic on 92 oct.
The op was 93 was rocking a bigger intake and comp housing. Also look at the ambient temp. It's totally plausible.


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Old 12-04-2014, 10:23 AM   #5
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FMIC doesn't "make hp". Possibly a little with differences in core design, but mainly it is to combat heatsoak which can occur on a dyno but a good TMIC would be right with a FMIC on a dyno.

OP, looks like a solid build. Bet it is a lot of fun on the street.

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Old 12-04-2014, 10:38 AM   #6
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No way the most you could get is 360 out of a 1.5xt my buddy has same setup on the mustang dyno he only got 340 because no fmic
Argue with his dyno sheet. That's a relatively low reading dyno too. What your friend made is irrelevant.
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:48 AM   #7
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Old 12-04-2014, 11:42 AM   #8
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My Dom 1.5 with the 2.4" inlet did 353 whp on Surgeline's mustang Dyno at just under 21 psi. Tuner told me their was more power left in it and that the factory intake was holding me back. That was with an IWG and tmic on 92 oct.
The op was 93 was rocking a bigger intake and comp housing. Also look at the ambient temp. It's totally plausible.


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Awesome numbers and great choice in turbo!
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Old 12-04-2014, 11:49 AM   #9
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My Dom 1.5 with the 2.4" inlet did 353 whp on Surgeline's mustang Dyno at just under 21 psi. Tuner told me their was more power left in it and that the factory intake was holding me back. That was with an IWG and tmic on 92 oct.
The op was 93 was rocking a bigger intake and comp housing. Also look at the ambient temp. It's totally plausible.


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Why didn't you ditch the stock intake? Things get too much credit.
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Old 12-04-2014, 12:45 PM   #10
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FMIC doesn't "make hp". Possibly a little with differences in core design, but mainly it is to combat heatsoak which can occur on a dyno but a good TMIC would be right with a FMIC on a dyno.

OP, looks like a solid build. Bet it is a lot of fun on the street.

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In fact due to many bends in pipes and long runs a fmic will actually make less VE than a tmic. The issue with the tmic is when it gets hot out and all that heat starts to soak the tmic when you are going in stop and go traffic then you are not going to get as efficient a cooling as you will on a fmic. but a fmic will loose VE and has more turbo lag by laws of physics
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Old 12-04-2014, 12:47 PM   #11
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No way the most you could get is 360 out of a 1.5xt my buddy has same setup on the mustang dyno he only got 340 because no fmic
Here we go bench racing dynos again. Only way to tell what power anyone is really making is taking it to the track. You simply can not trust any dyno that has end user variable settings. The numbers can change in a few clicks of the key.

The Dyno Jet is the only dyno that can not be altered but it is considered to read "higher" than factory set mustang dynos.

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Old 12-04-2014, 03:03 PM   #12
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People love comparing dyno numbers. I made XXX whp on this dyno and he made XXX WHP on that dyno same mods. Who cares? As I mentioned it's irrelevant. Agreed the track is where the truth comes out. What's important is the car is running well and the owner is happy
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Old 12-04-2014, 03:33 PM   #13
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People love comparing dyno numbers. I made XXX whp on this dyno and he made XXX WHP on that dyno same mods. Who cares? As I mentioned it's irrelevant. Agreed the track is where the truth comes out. What's important is the car is running well and the owner is happy
That is all that matters

The purpose of a Dyno is to measure the gains or losses when making tuning adjustments. The only variable of importance is how the car is running. I have always found it idiotic to compare one dyno to another particularly the dynos that have end user adjustments. Many novice hobiests place too much importance on dyno figures and not the shape of the curve and the power band which is what makes the car enjoyable to drive
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Old 12-04-2014, 04:25 PM   #14
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I think everybody is right on here. I simply interjected that the guy claiming that the numbers reached were impossible was incorrect. In case anybody is looking at that turbo and using dyno numbers to guide them.


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Old 12-04-2014, 04:43 PM   #15
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I think everybody is right on here. I simply interjected that the guy claiming that the numbers reached were impossible was incorrect. In case anybody is looking at that turbo and using dyno numbers to guide them.


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I think if you are looking for guidance on selecting a turbo you need to compare the results from a few turbos and also look at the turbo compressor maps. Also track time slips are very helpful. Particularly the MPH. That is an very good guide to hp.

To me the power band looks great on this set up and it clearly is making great power - the intake may be helping it out as many have smaller intakes l - it does seem overly optimistic for this turbo but Blouch does make a great turbo

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Old 12-04-2014, 04:54 PM   #16
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great numbers atf78 & good looking car
maybe I will see you around in the hood
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Old 12-04-2014, 05:14 PM   #17
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No way the most you could get is 360 out of a 1.5xt my buddy has same setup on the mustang dyno he only got 340 because no fmic
Well there you go.
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Old 12-05-2014, 08:39 AM   #18
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Are you running an ewg?
Nope, internal wastegate.

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I think if you are looking for guidance on selecting a turbo you need to compare the results from a few turbos and also look at the turbo compressor maps. Also track time slips are very helpful. Particularly the MPH. That is an very good guide to hp.

To me the power band looks great on this set up and it clearly is making great power - the intake may be helping it out as many have smaller intakes l - it does seem overly optimistic for this turbo but Blouch does make a great turbo

Al
This ^^. I posted this thread to share my setup rather than bragging about numbers. I hate seeing dyno wars and long discussions about whose dyno reads super high or is a "heartbreaker".

Unfortunately, I don't have before dyno numbers on this particular dyno to compare, but as apples to oranges as it may be, the car was tuned to 302whp and 320wtq at 19psi last fall on Akuma's dyno. The only changes for this new tune were the Dom 1.5, 73mm MAF CAI, 3" inlet, and switching back to stock headers now since my old EL header was leaking at the slip joints.

My car will probably never hit the track. It's a DD and it's a 5speed WRX so I'd like to keep the trans together as long as I can. If it's feasible in the future, I'd love to swap in a 6 speed, but it will be a while before that will happen.
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Old 12-05-2014, 10:28 AM   #19
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Good stuff man, if and when I upgrade my turbo, I will likely go this route. This is very helpful.

Can you comment on your reasoning for: 10cm outlet, no EWG and stock headers(why not try another brand that doesn't have slip fits)

Thanks bro!
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Old 12-05-2014, 11:03 AM   #20
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This ^^. I posted this thread to share my setup rather than bragging about numbers. I hate seeing dyno wars and long discussions about whose dyno reads super high or is a "heartbreaker".
100%

People get too caught up comparing dyno numbers. Thats around what that setup makes on our Mustang as well. Great numbers for pump gas for sure. Good work
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Old 12-05-2014, 01:03 PM   #21
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Can you comment on your reasoning for: 10cm outlet, no EWG and stock headers(why not try another brand that doesn't have slip fits)

Thanks bro!
I bought the turbo and inlet combo used, but the 10cm is well worth it if you're going for top end. You'll sacrifice a bit of spool but it's not bad even for daily driving duties.

No ewg due to volume reasons. I know you can control it but the wife already thinks my car is crazy loud (it's not) and I'm honestly not a fan of the sound.

As for the headers, I had a suspicion that they were leaking and when I went to install all of this that suspicion was confirmed. I couldn't afford a good quality set at the time so just went back to stock. Maybe in the future I'll revisit El headers and get retuned.
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Old 12-06-2014, 08:39 AM   #22
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I've been on the akuma dyno and the procom dyno. They read within like 2-3 percent of one another in my experience.

Looks like a nice curve, I'm sure that's a lot of fun.

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Old 12-06-2014, 10:20 AM   #23
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Awesome Numbers
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Congrats bro, I wish we had 93 out here on the island
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