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kellygnsd · 03-13-2013, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by my99210kw

Anyone know what the max angle would be on the 6258 prior to issues with oil return or oil going through back seal? Got two of these going on forged ez30r. Image of installation via link

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ua07iqmyn...pg?n=152903952

+/- 20% of vertical for the oil drain line. I also recommend that anyone installing one read the EFR tech brief. All questions are answered there.

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kellygnsd · 03-13-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GA scooby

Are you done with break in yet man?! Crank up the boost and let's see what that thing makes!

I'm a little scared to turn the boost up on this motor. The build has begun on the bullet proof sleeved 2.34L motor though. That one will take whatever I can throw at it.

stretchedk7 · 03-13-2013, 09:31 PM

very nice! wish i was building a 2.34!! super jelly

Phatron · 03-13-2013, 09:45 PM

whats up with the boost plot on the dyno?

kellygnsd · 03-13-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Phatron

whats up with the boost plot on the dyno?

Me?

If so his boost pickup was giving him issues and I was told to disregard. Actual boost is 15psi to redline.

my99210kw · 03-13-2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kellygnsd

+/- 20% of vertical for the oil drain line. I also recommend that anyone installing one read the EFR tech brief. All questions are answered there.

Only referance to 20 degrees is left or right. My issue is nose up or down for which there is no spec just says should be flat which is not an option in my case. Garrett give a spec on this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0b35w6ckax3z7/m3.jpg

Refer WRC turbo location and angle

Leafy · 03-14-2013, 08:43 AM

Call Borg, their tech people will either know, or at least be able to find out.

guitarsurgeon · 03-14-2013, 06:31 PM

15 degrees is max angle

kellygnsd · 03-14-2013, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my99210kw

Only referance to 20 degrees is left or right. My issue is nose up or down for which there is no spec just says should be flat which is not an option in my case. Garrett give a spec on this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0b35w6ckax3z7/m3.jpg

Refer WRC turbo location and angle

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Originally Posted by guitarsurgeon

15 degrees is max angle

Re-reading the EFR Tech brief they say mount the turbo as level as possible longitudinally and avoid to much nose up or nose down attitude. It sounds like they only tested it in the horizontal position so I guess its up to you to push it on the angle and report back when oil starts getting past the seals.

"The bearing housing oil drain should be pointed straight downward where possible, and at most 20 degrees tilted right or left. When routing the oil drain line, try to keep it running downhill all the time and avoid horizontal spots or sharp bends. The oil should drain to the block or pan in a low pressure region above the level of the oil bath. It is not recommended to install the turbo considerably nose-up or nose-down. It was validation tested to be installed “flat” with respect to the ground." ==> from EFR tech brief

You're aware that the WRC turbo in question that mounts almost vertically cost about as much as a new Subaru if not more. I wouldn't expect to find many other turbos that would like that position.

climberd · 03-15-2013, 10:12 AM

That WRC turbo is also replaced after every race, as it is also fed anti-lag. At least that's what a WRC tech told me when looking over the car.

guitarsurgeon · 03-16-2013, 04:07 PM

My tuner claims he had one on the dyno, nose up at 20 degrees an it was leaky, the other ones were under 15 degrees and held fine, so from first hand I don't recommend more than 15 degrees

my99210kw · 03-21-2013, 04:49 AM

Can any of the vendors supply me with v-band flange and clamp x 2 for my two EFR6258 turbo's. My email is tony.dobnik@gmail.com . Sorry to be off topic but am desperate for the supply of these parts as they are stopping me from having my car up and running

. My postage address is 38 Bathurst Rd Orange NSW 2800 Australia. Locally I have had nothing but run around with no results and one US supplier after a week of emailing has told me two week wait as out of stock.
Hope someone can help.

Cheers,
Tony

Leafy · 03-21-2013, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by my99210kw

Can any of the vendors supply me with v-band flange and clamp x 2 for my two EFR6258 turbo's. My email is tony.dobnik@gmail.com . Sorry to be off topic but am desperate for the supply of these parts as they are stopping me from having my car up and running

. My postage address is 38 Bathurst Rd Orange NSW 2800 Australia. Locally I have had nothing but run around with no results and one US supplier after a week of emailing has told me two week wait as out of stock.
Hope someone can help.

Cheers,
Tony

Buy from treadstone. They currently sell the best clamp for the EFR v band and have 2 options for flanges. One flange option even lets you run a 3.5" downpipe straight off the turbo.

my99210kw · 03-21-2013, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Leafy

Buy from treadstone. They currently sell the best clamp for the EFR v band and have 2 options for flanges. One flange option even lets you run a 3.5" downpipe straight off the turbo.

Treadstone apparently are out of stock for 2 weeks

Leafy · 03-21-2013, 07:34 AM

Well that sucks. I guess I would wait for those and just grab the crappy one from Borg Warner which you can buy from full race or any other BW dealer, if you need it now. The one from BW will likely last one or two times taking the turbo off before you turn the threads into mush.

Concillian · 03-21-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mofoSTI

Thanks guys. I'm going to run the 6258 and try to squeeze the most out of it. Then down the road go bigger when i get use to the power. Keep in mind that stock power is enough to get one in trouble. I will get use to 375 - 400 whp before i go for more. I already had an 04 STi running 355whp and 390 lbft to the ground.

FYI I get ~15 psi at ~3200 RPM with the 6758 ... on a 2 liter (EJ207). It spools very close to a vf39. A 6258 is going to spool very quick on a 2.5L.

guitarsurgeon · 03-22-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TickTack

Yes, this was with about 30min of tuning on the road, just to get the car broken in and running before winter hit. Tuner thought it might have 570whp in it before I need a bigger turbo. Stock head ports, stock valves, radius valve job, BC valve springs/retainers, GSC S2 cams. Has GrimmSpeed TGV deletes and ported manifold. It's a street car that'll see occasional the drag strip or road course.

Also, this was my first trip around the block with the car, very little throttle and almost no boost. Man are these turbos loud!
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXO5S3dRIkQ

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL91a8lBSxU

Don't run your throttle body like that. At partial throttle it is gonna mess up flow from cylinders 1/3 and 2/4 due to how the flap works. At idle and wot it would be fine, but not worth the risk IMO

06rexwagon · 03-22-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarsurgeon

Don't run your throttle body like that. At partial throttle it is gonna mess up flow from cylinders 1/3 and 2/4 due to how the flap works. At idle and wot it would be fine, but not worth the risk IMO

I run mine 90* like that without issue.

Full-Race Geoff · 03-22-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarsurgeon

Don't run your throttle body like that. At partial throttle it is gonna mess up flow from cylinders 1/3 and 2/4 due to how the flap works. At idle and wot it would be fine, but not worth the risk IMO

disagree, it works perfectly... been doing this for years

azn2nr · 03-22-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kellygnsd

2007 STi Limited
Link G4 Extreme Pro ECU
Wiseco 100mm pistons 8.5:1 CR
DPR ported heads, +1mm valves
Cosworth 272 cams
Full Race 7670 TS turbo kit
Greddy EVO exhaust(I think)
Aeromotive custom fuel rail setup
Custom FMIC kit
3" custom CAI
etc, etc, etc...

Currently hitting 15 psi @ 3200 rpm holding to redline.

The car is ridiculously fun to drive and proves to me it was worth the wait every time I start the car up.

how do you like that link ecu? is it the plug and play one? does it retain cruise control and ac functions?

kellygnsd · 03-22-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by azn2nr

how do you like that link ecu? is it the plug and play one? does it retain cruise control and ac functions?

I love it. It works as advertised and I love the software and capabilities of the unit. Mine is not the replacement board model its a wire in model with an adapter harness that connects my factor harness to it. You get a few extra ins and outs with the wire in model and mine will drive high and low impedance injectors.

I've been told that in a future update they will implement cruise control and currently the inputs are there in the ECU when that becomes functional. The car still has A/C.

azn2nr · 03-22-2013, 04:23 PM

did you make your own harness connecter or did you buy one? if you bought it where did you get it from?

kellygnsd · 03-22-2013, 04:30 PM

They used to sell an adapter harness but not anymore since they have the PnP replacent board options. Now its either replacement board or full wire-in.

I have some pics of the adapter harness in my build thread if you want to check it out.

03-21-2013, 04:49 AM	#2787
my99210kw Scooby Newbie Member#: 180429 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Vehicle: 99 WRX Dark green	EFR 6258 v-band and flange Can any of the vendors supply me with v-band flange and clamp x 2 for my two EFR6258 turbo's. My email is tony.dobnik@gmail.com . Sorry to be off topic but am desperate for the supply of these parts as they are stopping me from having my car up and running. My postage address is 38 Bathurst Rd Orange NSW 2800 Australia. Locally I have had nothing but run around with no results and one US supplier after a week of emailing has told me two week wait as out of stock. Hope someone can help. Cheers, Tony

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03-13-2013, 09:31 PM	#2778
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03-14-2013, 06:31 PM	#2783
guitarsurgeon Scooby Newbie Member#: 290509 Join Date: Aug 2011	15 degrees is max angle

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guitarsurgeon Scooby Newbie Member#: 290509 Join Date: Aug 2011	My tuner claims he had one on the dyno, nose up at 20 degrees an it was leaky, the other ones were under 15 degrees and held fine, so from first hand I don't recommend more than 15 degrees

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Leafy Scooby Newbie Member#: 330625 Join Date: Aug 2012 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: MA Vehicle: 2006 WRX WRB	Well that sucks. I guess I would wait for those and just grab the crappy one from Borg Warner which you can buy from full race or any other BW dealer, if you need it now. The one from BW will likely last one or two times taking the turbo off before you turn the threads into mush.

03-22-2013, 04:23 PM	#2797
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03-22-2013, 04:30 PM	#2798
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