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Old 03-16-2010, 07:00 PM   #1
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Default realtime economy map

So I flashed an economy map into realtime over my stage 2 tune to see a difference in gas mileage. I don't really notice a difference and am driving at full force grandma style. Is this due to the fact that the economy map is not the main map/?
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:55 PM   #2
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Have you done a full tank or two to get the actual calculations? It's only going to be a few MPG difference if that and that's too small a difference to tell by looking at the mileage and the gauge. I didn't notice much on my 02 either but the slight difference is there. I just gave up on it because it wasn't worth driving like that all the time.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:07 PM   #3
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in economy mode at stage 2 in my bugeye wagon, I was only seeing 1mpg better than if i just drove as if i was in economy mode on the regular stage 2 map (shift at lowest rpm possible, accelerate painfully slow, etc.). To me, it just wasn't worth the hassle of switching back and forth. I just stopped switching and started driving nicer when needed. Like i said, i got like 20-30 less miles per tank. Now, if i were to go cross country, i would probably switch maps, as this 20-30 miles would start to add up to some decent dollars. On a side note, I think that a protuned economy map will show better results...just my opinion though.
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:28 PM   #4
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Economy map limits your boost. Off boost performance is unchanged. If you stay out of boost all the time, it will not make a measurable difference.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:17 AM   #5
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Yea I couldnt drive like that as well and just reset the ecu to wipe out the economy map. The difference I saw was tiny about a few mpgs, definately not worth it. Those times when the **** box civics piss you off....you need that boost.
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Old 03-17-2010, 02:32 AM   #6
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I've been running the economy map for the past month and I've gotten, at best 270 miles per tank. This is while driving and not boosting at all, and mostly highway.

Before I was driving mostly city and a little highway and I would get about 230 per tank.

I'm currently running the 91 oct map so I'm logging to see what the difference is, still trying not to boost. Right now I'm at about half a tank at 147 miles.

Next fill I plan to run the same 91 oct map while boosting and driving normally. I'll let you know it goes!

Anyone else see improved gas mileage?
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:45 AM   #7
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like i said, i only saw about a 1mpg increase in my city and a 2mpg increase in my highway mpg. I was getting like 23 city at stage 2 driving VERY easily, and with economy map i would get like 24mpg city. Highway i was getting 28mpg in stage 2 with cruise control set at a constant 60mph, and in economy i was getting like 30mpg with cruise control set at 60mph. The difference is minimal, but it IS there. Like i said before though, I think that if a tuner made a specific economy map for your vehicle you may see better results than if using the cookie cutter map from cobb.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:10 PM   #8
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I've been running the economy map for the past month and I've gotten, at best 270 miles per tank. This is while driving and not boosting at all, and mostly highway.

Before I was driving mostly city and a little highway and I would get about 230 per tank.

I'm currently running the 91 oct map so I'm logging to see what the difference is, still trying not to boost. Right now I'm at about half a tank at 147 miles.

Next fill I plan to run the same 91 oct map while boosting and driving normally. I'll let you know it goes!

Anyone else see improved gas mileage?
A MONTH? WOW!!! I could barely make it a week... I did get better MPG but it sure wasn't worth it. ALL the fun was taken out of driving the car, may as well have been driving my wife's ECHO...
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Old 03-18-2010, 01:33 PM   #9
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AWD...fail....
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Old 03-18-2010, 03:25 PM   #10
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A MONTH? WOW!!! I could barely make it a week... I did get better MPG but it sure wasn't worth it. ALL the fun was taken out of driving the car, may as well have been driving my wife's ECHO...
Maybe longer than a month, and you're right it's not really fun getting onto the on ramp of a highway not boosting, cars don't like that, especially in Chicago lol

I'm filling up tonight, I'm a little past the 3/4 mark with 238 miles on the 91 oct map.

So tmrw I'll start driving "normal," boosting and not boosting, I'll see how that affects my mpg. But of course this depends on the driver
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:25 AM   #11
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Its all in the closed loop, open loop fueling.
Go into Econ and stay out of boost. There is your MPG gain.
But heck where is the fun in that??
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:43 AM   #12
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Adjust the closed loop fueling targets.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:18 PM   #13
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I fill my tank twice a week running stage two and I consistently hit 270 before I need to refuel. I have even hit 280.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:50 PM   #14
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I fill my tank twice a week running stage two and I consistently hit 270 before I need to refuel. I have even hit 280.
You have a different motor than OP, therefore your numbers are irrelevant. Also, tanks is not a unit of measure
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:38 PM   #15
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Yea I couldnt drive like that as well and just reset the ecu to wipe out the economy map. The difference I saw was tiny about a few mpgs, definately not worth it. Those times when the **** box civics piss you off....you need that boost.


hahahah been there stg 2 map stays now... haha
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Old 03-26-2010, 09:06 AM   #16
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You have a different motor than OP, therefore your numbers are irrelevant. Also, tanks is not a unit of measure
+1 miles/tank is useless.
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Old 05-26-2010, 05:09 PM   #17
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I just switched to the economy mode to see what kind of difference it made in gas mileage. I loaded it in realtime mode, and my stage 2 map is still in reflash, how do i go back to the stage 2 map. Do i just click on show map, re flash and when the stage 2 info comes up click OK. Just want to make sure that i am back in stage 2, I don't want to open it up in economy mode.
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