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Old 03-23-2010, 12:04 AM   #1
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:16 AM   #2
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Supposedly big upgrades coming for Mercedes and McLaren (and a downgrade if you count that starter hole diffuser loop hole being closed), but I think we'll see something similar to Bahrain, the Ferraris chasing after Vettel, followed by the McLarens then the Mercedes's. Interesting things to look forward too this weekend, will Red Bull have the reliability? will Schumi out pace Roseberg? Can Button match Hamilton? and will the new teams manage to finish?

My picks

1.Vettel
2.Massa
3.Alsonso
4.Hamilton
5.Rosberg
6.Schumi
7.Button
8.Webber
9.Barrichello
10.Kobayashi

And Vettel on pole.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:08 AM   #3
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good picks ouScooby. I would guess around the same and just hope that redbull got their overheating/header problem fixed for this week. What will be really interesting is seeing how much the new teams are improving this week...hopefully we can see more than 10 laps with all of the cars still in the race.
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Old 03-23-2010, 02:10 AM   #4
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My pick 6...... or um 10

1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Alonso
4. Massa
5. Hamilton
6. Schumi
7. Rosberg
8. Button
9. Kubica
10. Sutil

Maybe optimistic with Kubica and Sutil but I think they both could have scored points last race if Webber hadn't gone all Spy Hunter with the smoke screen.
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Old 03-23-2010, 02:16 AM   #5
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^^^
I think I like you're picks better than mine. I forgot that it was Webber's home race, that probably will give in the motivation to find a little more speed. I was going to put Kubica and Sutil at the bottom of my top ten instead of Barrichello and Kobayashi, ended up sticking with them, Williams and Sauber both show good form in the pre-season, I'm waiting for that to translate into better finishes.
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Old 03-23-2010, 07:02 AM   #6
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my stab 10 in the dark

S.Vettel;
F.Alonso;
F.Massa;
L.Hamilton;
N.Rosberg;
M.Webber;
M.Schumacher;
R.Barrichello;
V.Liuzzi;
J.Butto

Ry-
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:07 AM   #7
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good picks ouScooby. I would guess around the same and just hope that redbull got their overheating/header problem fixed for this week. What will be really interesting is seeing how much the new teams are improving this week...hopefully we can see more than 10 laps with all of the cars still in the race.
What header problem?
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^Probably hasn't read the news release that Red Bull stated it was a spark plug problem (so they say).
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Old 03-23-2010, 11:31 AM   #9
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1. S.Vettel;
2. F.Alonso;
3. L.Hamilton;
4. F.Massa;
5. N.Rosberg;
6. M.Webber;
7. M.Schumacher;
8. J.Button;
9. R.Barrichello;
10. N.Hulkenberg

Hmmmm...
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Old 03-23-2010, 11:51 AM   #10
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I just hope this race will be a litle more entertaining than Bahrain!
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:52 PM   #11
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1.Vettel
2.alonso
3.hammilton
4.rosberg
5.massa
6.webber
7.schumi
8.button
9.barichello
10.sutil

my picks and +1 on the entertainment factor.
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Old 03-23-2010, 03:02 PM   #12
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no love for A Sutil? He was running was fast times last reace. I think I will have him in my top 8
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Old 03-23-2010, 03:07 PM   #13
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Here's my picks -

Alonso
Hamilton
Vettel
Massa
Schumacher
Webber
Rosberg
Button
Kubica
Sutil
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My picks. Go Webbo in his home GP!

1. S. Vettel
2. M. Webber
3. F. Alonso
4. L. Hamilton
5. F. Massa
6. M. Schumacher
7. J. Button
8. A. Sutil
9. N. Rosberg
10. R. Kubica
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Here are my picks:

1.F.Alonso
2.F.Massa
3.S.Vettel
4.L.Hamilton
5.N.Rosberg
6.M.Schumacher
7.M.Webber
8.R.Kubica
9.J.Button
10.K.Kobayashi
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M.Webber
F.Alonso
J.Button
F.Massa
M.Schumacher
N.Rosberg
N.Hulkenberg
P.Rosa
R.Kubica
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I just hope this race will be a litle more entertaining than Bahrain!
agreed!

I think Vettel will get this one. He gets so mad sometimes, I wonder if his head will explode....
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:45 PM   #18
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:45 PM   #19
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Smile More poor picks from Ken!

Rats! I'm about at the back of the pack and it's only one race! (Sigh!)
  1. Alonso
  2. Massa
  3. Vettel
  4. Webber
  5. Hamilton
  6. Button
  7. Rosberg
  8. Schumacher
  9. Liuzzi
  10. Barrichello
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Old 03-24-2010, 05:05 PM   #20
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Question Why did Vettel Slow Down?

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... just hope that redbull got their overheating/header problem fixed for this week...
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Dennis suspects Vettel ran out of fuel in Bahrain

Ron Dennis has been quoted as questioning Red Bull's claim that Sebastian Vettel suffered a spark plug failure whilst leading the 2010 season opener in Bahrain last weekend.

Initially after the 22-year-old pole sitter gave up the lead of the race to the eventual three podium-getters, Red Bull diagnosed an exhaust problem.

A subsequent media statement clarified that it was actually a spark plug problem within the Renault engine that was the matter, but Spain's AS newspaper reported last week that Vettel simply slowed to prevent running out of fuel.

"The lap times dropped so rapidly that one can imagine the electronic control unit (ECU) switching to a conservative programme to save fuel," Dennis is quoted as saying in a report of the Cologne newspaper Express.

Briton Dennis is the chairman and a 15 per cent shareholder of McLaren Group, whose subsidiary McLaren Electronic Systems (MES) supplies the control ECU run mandatorily by all F1 teams.

The 62-year-old was speaking late last week at the launch of McLaren's new MP4-12C production supercar.

His theory would explain how Vettel's RB6, having perhaps conserved enough fuel for a final surge, was able to record fully competitive times in the final laps to prevent Nico Rosberg from passing.

During Dennis' long reign as McLaren team boss, Adrian Newey worked for a long time with the British team. And Newey, the main author of the RB6, is renowned for pushing the envelope with his F1 designs.

"The problem with the Red Bull could be design," Dennis continued.

"It could be the fuel tank is too small, or the fuel consumption is higher than they expected," he added.

Renault's engine boss Rob White told Express that the French marque has also been analysing the cause of Vettel's Bahrain problem.

"The investigation to identify the reason for Vettel's engine problem is ongoing," he said.

"A problem with the spark plug was found, but we have no reason to suspect a defect in the component itself."
Though this is a speculation story, this GMM story had three sources:
  • "Spain's AS newspaper reported last week..." (although little on that story)
  • Ron Dennis is quoted from the "Cologne newspaper Express"
  • "Renault's engine boss Rob White told (Cologne?) Express..."
It would not be surprising, given those conditions, (high heat after only testing in cool weather, and first race of the season), for a team to burn too much fuel during the race.
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i donno why i cant find any better pictures of the burti schumacher incident.













also interesting that despite both crashing out they could restart the race with their third car.
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i donno why i cant find any better pictures of the burti schumacher incident.

also interesting that despite both crashing out they could restart the race with their third car.
Thats why Schumacher slowed down, I don't think he wanted to hurt Burti, but he was hoping for a restart of the race.

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Though this is a speculation story, this GMM story had three sources:
  • "Spain's AS newspaper reported last week..." (although little on that story)
  • Ron Dennis is quoted from the "Cologne newspaper Express"
  • "Renault's engine boss Rob White told (Cologne?) Express..."
It would not be surprising, given those conditions, (high heat after only testing in cool weather, and first race of the season), for a team to burn too much fuel during the race.
Why wouldn't the team have told him to slow down then? It seems a bit silly, and not something that a team would try and hide. Also, why didn't Webber have the problem? Wouldn't he have too if the fuel cell was too small? Just seems a lot of stuff is wrong for the fuel cell to be an issue.
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S.Vettel
F.Alonso
F.Massa
L.Hamilton
N.Rosberg
M.Schumacher
M.Webber
J.Button
R.Kubica
K.Kobayashi

I threw Kubica in, maybe too low, because of how well he did after a mishap on the first turn dropping him way way back in Bahrain. Thought about Sutil but went with Kobay instead.

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News Another reason not to choose Di Grassi To Finish In The Points

OK, here is the bad news for all of you Lucas Di Grassi fans out there...
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Virgin has been given a green light by the FIA to make a substantial change to its 2010 chassis.

Although the chassis is homologated for cost reasons and therefore not able to be modified, it has emerged that the new British team discovered that the fuel tank in the VR-01 car is not big enough.

In fact, with normal engine settings, the Cosworth-powered car - if sufficiently reliable - currently would not make it to the end of a race, according to Germany's Auto Motor und Sport.

It is believed Virgin has been permitted to make the change, which will not be ready for a few more events, on the grounds of the 'cost or reliability' test.

The magazine said the revised chassis, to require a longer underbody, new engine cover and other bodywork, should be ready to debut in Spain in early May.

The situation, however, has put on hold any other car improvements for Virgin, given that it would make little sense to introduce new bodywork now if it must be substantially revised for the new fuel tank package in Barcelona.

Auto Motor und Sport also reports that a tweaked diffuser is not the only altered piece on the 2010 McLaren in Melbourne this weekend.

The report said the FIA requested that the Woking based team also alter a blade dimension on its front wing.
I wonder if this makes Virgin's race strategy a little more fun... "OK, boyz, let's just run her hard until she runs out of fuel!"
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