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Old 04-01-2010, 11:22 PM   #1
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Hey everyone, just joined up hopefully to lurk for a little while. always loved the WRX's and STi's. Test drove my first one about a month or so ago. I immediately fell in love. Sad part is, the poor 04 STi that i drove was so beat on it wasnt even funny. The guy from the used dealership that i went to almost crashed it trying to show off when we pulled out of the parking lot.

As of now im trying to sell or trade my current car (06 Camry) to hopefully join everyone else on here in their love for these cars. Meanwhile ill try to gain as much knowledge as i can from everyone!

Anyone have any advice about buying? What to look for and what not? Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:50 PM   #2
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keep researching, answering questions about what to look for is usualy very car specific, if you narrow your range of cars, I am sure you will get the information you are looking for. Welcome btw...
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Old 04-02-2010, 04:47 AM   #3
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what is your realistic budget?

if you can afford a used sti go for it, if not the wrx to get is the 06-07. They come with 2.5L engine, and 4pot/2pot brakes.

do ALOT of research and take your time so you don't regret your purchase later on. Also save some money to do turboback exhaust and tune, and some nice tires. That should keep you busy and put a smile on your face for many months.

after you narrow down your choices we can help explain to you the minor changes between model years.

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Old 04-02-2010, 08:37 AM   #4
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Well perticularaly looking at just the wrx sedans in general. Yea a few friends of mine said to make sure to do a compression and leakdown test? Can anyone explain what that means and how to go about checking? He also said to go for the newer wrx's because of the 2.5's. Aren't the sti's completely reworked with stronger parts though? Such as tranny etc etc.
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:56 AM   #5
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A compression test is when you test how much air pressure a cylinder can hold. A normal number is around the mid to high 100s I believe, anything a good bit below that and you know the piston ringland (the piston's seal with the cylinder wall) is on its way out (i.e., a blown engine).
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:29 AM   #6
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Well perticularaly looking at just the wrx sedans in general. Yea a few friends of mine said to make sure to do a compression and leakdown test? Can anyone explain what that means and how to go about checking? He also said to go for the newer wrx's because of the 2.5's. Aren't the sti's completely reworked with stronger parts though? Such as tranny etc etc.
The STi motor (EJ257) has the same short block casting as the WRX (EJ255), same crank, same rods. The pistons are the same material, but have a shallower dish, and the heads have a larger combustion chamber volume that results in a slightly lower compression ratio (8.2:1 vs the WRX's 8.5:1). The heads are basically the same other than that, I don't remember if the cams are the same.

The big differences are the STi has a MUCH stronger transmission than the WRX, larger brakes, larger rear diff, etc. You can make a WRX faster than an STi for cheaper than the price difference between the two, but you cannot make it as fast and as strong as the STi for cheaper, so if that's your goal you're much better off just buying the STi in the first place.
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Old 04-02-2010, 02:26 PM   #7
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Old 04-02-2010, 02:29 PM   #8
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Search, Search, search! Remember that you do NOT have to settle for a car. If you are patient enough, you will find the perfect car for the perfect price.
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Old 04-02-2010, 03:22 PM   #9
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Thanks for all of this advice! Learning alot already. Well my budget I would have to say is around 15k. But I know it's highly unlikely that I'd find an sti for that short of cash. So then I started thinking of the 05-06 wrx. But It may just be the smarter choice to Try and find an sti for the couple extra thousand.
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Old 04-02-2010, 08:45 PM   #10
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^^don't get the 05 wrx, the 02-05 wrx has a 2.0L engine, 06+wrx has 2.5L engine like the sti.

that is the engine you really want to get. 06-07 get nice 4/2 pot brakes too.
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Old 04-03-2010, 12:20 AM   #11
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Thanks for all of this advice! Learning alot already. Well my budget I would have to say is around 15k. But I know it's highly unlikely that I'd find an sti for that short of cash. So then I started thinking of the 05-06 wrx. But It may just be the smarter choice to Try and find an sti for the couple extra thousand.
You might find one in your price range.

The STI came with a better handling suspension, much better brakes, and a much stronger/capable drivetrain. Power wise, slap an STI turbo on a 2.5l WRX engine with engine management and possibly injectors and you'll make as much power as an STI will. You just won't stop or turn as well (stock anyways!) And you will probably eventually break the tranny, which will run about $3,000 to repair.... Be patient, get an STI. It'll be worth the wait.
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Old 04-03-2010, 12:28 PM   #12
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Fill out your profile, it will help people better direct you for help with things.

Be very cautious with the potential vehicles that you may purchase. Like youve seen already too many of these cars have been beat up and poorly taken care of.

Find a local recommended and trusted Subaru shop (not a dealership) and have them do an inspection on any car before you buy it. This could save you A LOT of headache in the future. Theyll know what red flags to look for
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Old 04-03-2010, 02:10 PM   #13
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don't forget to call your insurance and get a quote. A WRX or STI will be a heck of a lot more expensive to insure than your Camry. It should help you understand your true budget and help your decision in the end.
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Old 04-04-2010, 09:37 PM   #14
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How does everyone feel about swapped older 2.5rs'? They look sweet if they're in good shape. And if done correctly I can imagine they're amazing.
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Old 04-04-2010, 10:49 PM   #15
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Dont feel too bad it took me 5 years and totalling a car before I could get a wrx hehe. Patience grasshopper. You will find the car you desire.
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:51 PM   #16
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haha yea man i was just talking to a buddy of mine whos a part of the site as well, he used to own an STi and hes actually going to pick up another one soon. he kinda flipped my interest at the older 2.5RS' that are swapped. but im def on the prowl. and would love to have one by the end of the summer lol
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:57 PM   #17
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sales people suck. The one 06 sti I looked at for like 3 days in a row (because I was going to get it for a freaking steaalll, previous owner babied it and took so much care of it, I just had cash in hand ready to go). Problem was the dude was letting people test drive it at their tent sale in a huge lot and beat the balls off of it. The first day he let me drive it and told me to floor it and "open her up man!" about 30 seconds after starting the car while it was still cold . The next day I saw several people doing the same thing when I passed by the location.
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:43 AM   #18
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yea this dude sucked at that dealership. i think if i end up buying one im going to buy on here or from someone who meticulously maintained their car. none of this test rides for everyone beating the piss out of it BS. hah sad
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Old 04-05-2010, 02:12 PM   #19
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:13 AM   #20
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Ive got a couple of questions about the STi for anyone who can answer.

what would be good mileage to become weary of parts on these cars? i know theyre much stronger but a friend of mine who used to own one said that anything close to or over 100k i should be careful when buying. Does it all depend on who owned the car?

also...he mentioned getting the 05+ STi and that theyre better than the 04. Any reason of this? any big differences or is it more personal preference?
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