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Old 04-08-2010, 01:38 PM   #1
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Default Has sportshift made you enjoy your AT Impreza more?

Hey all,

I just cruised past 1100 miles on my new 2010 Impreza Premium hatch, and got it with sportshift. I've barely touched sportshift mode on my auto tranny and would like to start using it. But first, a few questions.

1. Do you enjoy using sportshift mode / manumatic on your Impreza (non-turbo drivers, your comment is really appreciated)? Or maybe better question: does using sportshift make a difference during spirited driving?

2. Outside of just making sure I stay away from the redline, what are some considerations to keep in mind when driving in sport mode? (Safety, additional maintenance, etc.)

Thanks for your time.
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:01 PM   #2
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1) I almost always use the manumatic. And yes, it helps with spirited driving.
2) It will force a shift before the redline, and will not allow you to downshift at too high a speed.

It makes driving an auto tolerable. I normally use it in 4th gear because I want to accelerate in 4th, and not downshift into 3rd. It REALLY wants to d/s to 3rd when you want to accelerate anywhere in 4th for whatever reason. So keeping it in 4th using the manumatic really works for me there.
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:02 PM   #3
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1. I've used SportShift a bit, and it's fun to use once in a while. To be honest, it doesn't really make a difference because I notice when I put my car into the sport setting (on my car just tap shifter to the left), it already lets the car go up high into the RPM's.

2. On my car, you don't even have to worry about the redline. The car will automatically shift for you if you get close to the redline since it assumes you don't know what you're doing.
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:00 PM   #4
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Manumatics are much more easier to live with than str8 automatics. I even drove a CVT Nissan Altima in manumatic mode lol. I drove an automatic cars for years, and they're never in the right gear it seems so manumatics cure 90% of that problem . I'm cheap and didnt want to shell out the extra 1100 bucks for an automatic Impreza, so I forced myself to learn how to drive 5-speed (Although I had driven a couple before so I really wasn't learning for the first time). Not to mention it saves weight too. But if I had no choice the auto would be in Sportshift mode every time
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:13 PM   #5
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I use the sport mode when I'm trying to merge/ need to get up to speed. Does a better job than the plain drive mode. I put it back once I start cruising because the sport mode tends to eat up gas when you're revving high. I use the manual shift mode occasionally when I want to engine brake or just do some spirited driving.
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:20 PM   #6
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I use it from time to time, but I'm not sure if using sport mode or the sport shift mode can have a negative impact on the transmission (extra wear and tear?).
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:54 PM   #7
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I use it from time to time, but I'm not sure if using sport mode or the sport shift mode can have a negative impact on the transmission (extra wear and tear?).
I guess if we're being technical, then putting the tranny into sport mode allows you to experience higher revs, which makes your car's engine spin harder, which probably makes your automatic transmission work harder, which statistically will up the chance of tranny-related complications down the road.

IMO, as long as you keep the car within certain parameters, and don't try any incredibly stupid stuff, I would imagine any extra wear and tear should be kept to a minimum. The manual says that maximum speeds in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears are around 30, 50, and 70 miles per hour, respectively. (Forgive my inaccuracy, just what I recalled.)
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:51 PM   #8
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I use the sport mode when I'm trying to merge/ need to get up to speed. Does a better job than the plain drive mode. I put it back once I start cruising because the sport mode tends to eat up gas when you're revving high. I use the manual shift mode occasionally when I want to engine brake or just do some spirited driving.
Basically everything I was going to say.

Sport mode is used for merging most of the time, but you still have to get used to it because there's a delay while the transmission tries to figure out what you want, esp from a stop.

Honestly I find the Sport mode most useful when stuck in bumper to bumper traffic jams, cause you don't have to keep shifting yourself, but the engine also just grinds along a little slower keeping braking force down. And if you need to change lanes quickly, it gitties up.

When I know I need to move quick, like making a quick turn across heavy traffic I use the manual mode because there's no lag, the car just goes. I also use manual mode a lot just to smooth out the shifting cause the automatic can be a little clunky at times shifting up and down strangely.

I really only use full auto if I'm on the phone or otherwise in a distracted mode.

Probably the only really bad thing about it is realizing even more that the car needs a 5th gear.
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:56 AM   #9
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I also use manual mode a lot just to smooth out the shifting cause the automatic can be a little clunky at times shifting up and down strangely.
Yeah, I've noticed that too. Using the manumatic, I can ensure the right gear is engaged after slowing or stopping. That's when I see it the most; right after a stop.

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Probably the only really bad thing about it is realizing even more that the car needs a 5th gear.
Hell yes.
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:00 PM   #10
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I love my sportshift. What I dont get is when Im in say 3rd goin up a hill. It down shifts slightly even thou it doesnt need to. Its not a full downshift and the rpms arent low at all and Im doin atleast 50. Whats goin on with this?
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Old 04-12-2010, 07:22 PM   #11
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I love my sportshift. What I dont get is when Im in say 3rd goin up a hill. It down shifts slightly even thou it doesnt need to. Its not a full downshift and the rpms arent low at all and Im doin atleast 50. Whats goin on with this?
Sport MODE makes downshifting more sensitive; less input on the throttle will still downshift into a lower gear. On regular drive sometimes I have to press the throttle down farther to let the transmission downshift. If you want it to stay in 3rd, physically move the shifter up to 3rd (using the fancy shift gate), and the gearbox will stay in third until you come to a complete stop, where it automatically shifts down to 1st gear.
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Old 04-13-2010, 10:12 AM   #12
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Sport MODE makes downshifting more sensitive; less input on the throttle will still downshift into a lower gear. On regular drive sometimes I have to press the throttle down farther to let the transmission downshift. If you want it to stay in 3rd, physically move the shifter up to 3rd (using the fancy shift gate), and the gearbox will stay in third until you come to a complete stop, where it automatically shifts down to 1st gear.

But it downshifts a little when Im in the shift mode
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Old 04-13-2010, 10:57 AM   #13
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If it had flappy paddles it could be more fun. I could live out my f1 racecar driver dreams going to school. (rofl)

no but seriously I sat in the evo at the NY auto show and the flappy paddles were pretty cool in comparison to just being auto
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:24 AM   #14
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But it downshifts a little when Im in the shift mode
I think I know what you're talking about here.

Non-gear head disclaimer, but I was wondering if that was an "overdrive" mode for climbing hills that kicks in no matter what mode you are in.

A quick google gave me this:
http://www.newcars.com/subaru/imprez...ort/index.html
"Three transmission options are available, including the standard four-speed automatic with overdrive, which manages power distribution based on acceleration, deceleration and available traction. A four-speed automatic with overdrive and manual shift and six-speed manual with overdrive are also offered."

That's for a 2010 OBS, according to them, but that doesn't seem right to me, so take it with a grain of salt. I still think the auto w/manual gate has an overdrive.
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Old 04-13-2010, 06:53 PM   #15
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6 speed? If it offers such misinformation like that, I wouldn't trust that source.

The manual shifting isn't a TRUE manual when you do use it, it still goes down to 1st gear when you come to a stop, and I've noticed you can't upshift unless you're at a certain rpm, so I can't just cruise in 4th at 30 mph or anything. Still, the feature is a whole lot better than what Subaru's offered before with a plain automatic.
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Old 04-13-2010, 09:30 PM   #16
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I think I know what you're talking about here.

Non-gear head disclaimer, but I was wondering if that was an "overdrive" mode for climbing hills that kicks in no matter what mode you are in.
I would say thats what its most like. The increase after the unwanted "down shift" is only maybe 500 rpm. It not much but enough to be like wtf why is it doin this I was doing a nice pull up a hill
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:56 PM   #17
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it is a really nice feature but i drive a manual and really prefer having a clutch. i have also noticed a lag in the transmission between the time you push it up and when it actually shifts so that is a down fall
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:02 PM   #18
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Hi guys, I just purchased a 2009 2.5i premium sedan with auto and man/shift

is there anyway to overcome that gear changing lag? and it might sound stupid but is there a special way to engage the sport mode? I heard that u need to push the shifter to one side!??

I've always been driving manual and this is my first tiptronic.
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Old 04-20-2010, 11:56 AM   #19
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Hi guys, I just purchased a 2009 2.5i premium sedan with auto and man/shift

is there anyway to overcome that gear changing lag? and it might sound stupid but is there a special way to engage the sport mode? I heard that u need to push the shifter to one side!??

I've always been driving manual and this is my first tiptronic.
thanks
Not exactly sure what your confusion is about, but it can be a little unclear at first. When you move the stick to the left one click, the "sport" appears on the gauge cluster and you are in sport mode, where the car is in automatic and will do all the shifting. It shifts at higher RPMs.

If you are in "sport" mode already, and you pop the stick forward you will shift up (to the rear and you will shift down), and you will see the "D" in the cluster change to whatever gear you are now in, 1-4.

If you want to change back to standard auto, move the stick to the right. If you want to change from manual to sport again, move the stick right and back to the left in one motion.

Not sure what lag you are talking about exactly, but if you use the manual mode there's only a minor lag in changing gears, compared to auto and sport, which waits to see how far you're pushing the peddle before deciding what gear to shift down to.

Edit to say that you can also shift quickly down 2 gears by moving the stick twice quickly to also reduce "lag".

Also, RTFM. Enjoy.
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I appreciate the response!

I just noticed that even in the manual mode, the sport light wasn`t always on, that`s where my confusion was coming from.

It`s just that my brother has a forrester 06, which is suppose to have the same engine and same tranny as my 09 impreza, but his throttle response seems to be faster.
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Old 05-03-2010, 08:11 PM   #21
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I bought my ex-wife a 08 OBS when we were still married - when she left she took my BMW and left me with the OBS. I drove it for a year straight and drove it in manual mode every single day (I kid you not - missed real manual that much)... downshifting it hits pretty hard but it allows a lot more control over the car especially when cornering (the regular automatic mode is pretty lazy to downshift itself).
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