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Old 06-04-2002, 11:07 AM   #1
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Default Why is the Legacy the forgotten Brother?

is anybody else sick and tired of all the non-stop searching involved with tuning and legacy. look at how easy it is to find parts for imprezas, or REXs. Why do all the companies decide that the legacy doesn't deserve to have any parts made. I mean, we go through so much, we try getting people to make parts for our car, so we can buy them, and even then, it's not produced enough for the price to come down. Guages? Anyone have guages in their legacy? It's just so frustrating to not have the parts we want available.

BUT you know how it's gonna be when you're done tuning your LEGACY? Everyone is going to be jealous, because you have a tuned legacy, and they can't find the parts. ANY FOOL CAN TUNE A HONDA!

PS: HONDAS SUCK
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Old 06-04-2002, 11:45 AM   #2
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Most manufacturers in Japan make a TON of stuff for the Legacy, but it's indeed the lesser tuned model here.

Fortunately, almost all of the important stuff works in our Legacies.

I get a lot of comments at the autox "dude, i've never seen such a tricked out Legacy, especially a wagon"



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Old 06-04-2002, 11:57 AM   #3
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DLC: Got it right. Looking through some of the japanese personal web pages of Legacy owners there is all kinds of cool stuff.

Its too bad too, nothing wrong with the Imprezza base but it has no character or soul to me. The Legacy is the kind of car I could easily feal the personality with after being around it for not very long.

Its very cool that Subaru shares so many of the parts between models, makes it easy as he said that the good portion of important stuff is platform independent.


Now if freaking whiteline would ever hurry up and send me my sway bars and springs! Ive been waiting since 04/07/02 !!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-04-2002, 03:23 PM   #4
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I've had both an Impreza WRX and a Legacy L wagon

Legacy: better around town, racing on ice, and carry stuff.

WRX: better on the highway, quiter.

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Old 06-04-2002, 05:19 PM   #5
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I think it would all change if they would bring a 2.2 or 2.5 turbo. Right now the Legacy isn't the best choice if you want speed more than style, comfort, and beauty.
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Old 06-04-2002, 05:26 PM   #6
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oh oh! don't forget that the Legacy is the big money maker for SOA and w/o it SOA wouldn't be happening....
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Old 06-04-2002, 06:34 PM   #7
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To answer the original question Yes I'm sick and tired of all the non-stop searching and the lack of response from dealers! I have never experienced as hard a time spending money as I do over the Legacy. Getting enough information so that you can spend your money shouldn't be like pulling teeth. I really wonder what's going to happen to some of these people when the WRX craze die's .....
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Old 06-04-2002, 09:43 PM   #8
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The market segment for Legacy in the US is different.
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Old 06-04-2002, 10:11 PM   #9
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Default You guys think YOU got it bad?????

Try finding parts for an EG33 powered two door! At least you guys can borrow some Imprezza stuff (wheels, brakes). I feel like this guy in the eyes of the aftermarket and SOA.
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Old 06-04-2002, 10:21 PM   #10
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Actually....... I sorta like the fact finding stuff is not as easy. Keeps the would-be's at bay, and the true performance people a very rewarding car to modify and drive.

My Legacy is one of a kind, and when I get along a little more.....it will be even better, and be able to hang with the big boys

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Old 06-04-2002, 11:18 PM   #11
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Arrow Enjoy...

Enjoy the anonymity of owning a Legacy... blending in with the old men and soccer moms cruising at 80mph passing the three WRXs that were stopped for doing 70mph.

Enjoy wondering if the aforementioned old men and soccer moms really know what their cars can do.

Enjoy the feeling of making that challenger on the street sweat trying to keep up with such an "innocent" looking car around the next corner.

Enjoy the weird looks for having gold wheels or 17s on "that" car thinking "if they only knew".

Enjoy the anticipation of a forced induction Legacy looming in the future. Subaru knows performance sells now. It's a matter of time. When it happens, the performance market will grow a bit. Hopefully some of the parts will fit or adapt to BD/BG's. The higher price will keep most of the import defectors with the low-end WRX.

I can't buy a new car anytime soon, so I won't sweat it. I get turbo envy now and again being one of the only EJ25s and regular Legacy's at local meets. When I'm ready for a new ride, we should have some very nice choices. And who knows... ever seen a Legacy SUSTi?

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p.s. The SVX is the shiz!
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Old 06-05-2002, 12:46 AM   #12
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Getting stuff for the Legacy is sorta hard. And let's face it, it's not the best car in the world to modify for performance or even looks.

But I don't care. I bought my car for personal reasons: I can remember the first GT I ever saw and I said "I'm going to own that car some day". And now I do.

I don't care if people don't understand my car, I don't care if women don't respect it because it's a wagon, I don't care if other WRX owners don't like it because it's not a WRX. I don't care, I don't care, I don't care.

My car is an expression of my personal style. Everyone these days is running around looking for something that makes them unique or special, but they all end up looking the same. I own a car that almost nobody else does. That is fun for me. I get a kick out of that.

Every little mod I do makes the car even more unique to me. And since mods are hard to come by, each mod is an even bigger accomplishment than the equivalent mod on any other car. I've been looking for some mods (like headlights) for over TWO years, and have only now just found them. It's so satisfying to find cool stuff for our cars. There is a really loosely knit network of people like us all over the world. We help each other out and think the same way. We share our accomplishments. I think it's cool that someone with a 1990 Legacy wagon can show up here, post some pics and get props from everybody. It's a 13 year old family car!... But we like it anyway!

You can't get that from a Honda, Audi, BMW, Mitsubishi, or whatever. Those cars are mainstream.

So yes, you've got a tough road ahead of you if you've got aspirations for your Legacy, but the rewards and satisfaction can be had if you've got the persistence (and a few $$ ). And all of us other Legacy guys will be down here at the bottom of the I-Club forums waiting to congratulate you if you do.

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Old 06-05-2002, 06:57 AM   #13
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Quote:
Originally posted by monovich
I think it's cool that someone with a 1990 Legacy wagon can show up here, post some pics and get props from everybody. It's a 13 year old family car!... But we like it anyway!

You can't get that from a Honda, Audi, BMW, Mitsubishi, or whatever. Those cars are mainstream.

That is very well said(written).

I get alot of props from TRUE car lovers. You know the ones at the auto-x with a supercharged 911 and a Mini Cooper S on back order. Being unique is a big plus for us.
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Old 06-05-2002, 07:06 AM   #14
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Quote:
Originally posted by monovich
Getting stuff for the Legacy is sorta hard. And let's face it, it's not the best car in the world to modify for performance or even looks.

But I don't care. I bought my car for personal reasons: I can remember the first GT I ever saw and I said "I'm going to own that car some day". And now I do.

I don't care if people don't understand my car, I don't care if women don't respect it because it's a wagon, I don't care if other WRX owners don't like it because it's not a WRX. I don't care, I don't care, I don't care.

My car is an expression of my personal style. Everyone these days is running around looking for something that makes them unique or special, but they all end up looking the same. I own a car that almost nobody else does. That is fun for me. I get a kick out of that.

Every little mod I do makes the car even more unique to me. And since mods are hard to come by, each mod is an even bigger accomplishment than the equivalent mod on any other car. I've been looking for some mods (like headlights) for over TWO years, and have only now just found them. It's so satisfying to find cool stuff for our cars. There is a really loosely knit network of people like us all over the world. We help each other out and think the same way. We share our accomplishments. I think it's cool that someone with a 1990 Legacy wagon can show up here, post some pics and get props from everybody. It's a 13 year old family car!... But we like it anyway!

You can't get that from a Honda, Audi, BMW, Mitsubishi, or whatever. Those cars are mainstream.

So yes, you've got a tough road ahead of you if you've got aspirations for your Legacy, but the rewards and satisfaction can be had if you've got the persistence (and a few $$ ). And all of us other Legacy guys will be down here at the bottom of the I-Club forums waiting to congratulate you if you do.

Wow.. well stated..
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Old 06-05-2002, 08:59 AM   #15
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I embararrased a guy with a new G20 Five speed with my Turbo Legacy last week. I'm sure he had no idea how my dirty rusted car could be so fast.
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Old 06-05-2002, 02:07 PM   #16
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I enjoy the fact that I can go fast, feel safe and carry anything I need to all at the same time. Valentine Day, I had a car full of people(and my date) in my wagon going out to eat, when this guy in a pinkish Ford Probe GT pulled next to us on the highway. He gunned it then slowed and came back next to my car then looked at me. He wanted to race. So I slowly eased the gas pedal down untill I could hear more whine from the turbo(I have a bc/bf turbo wagon), then I went to about half to three quarters throttle(I dont like to outright floor my car) and just walked away from him. I got to about 80mph( from 60-65 mph) and let off. He caught up and kept on going. He didnt even look at me as he passed. I think he may have been embarassed by what had just happened. I hope his pasenger laughed at him 1) for having a pink Ford Probe and 2) for under estemating a Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon. I dont mind our small after market. It keeps our cars on the D/L, and the police pulling over the other guys that need to be pulled over. I will now and forever be a Legacy Wagon owner, I dont want anything else.
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Old 06-05-2002, 02:14 PM   #17
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I love my RS but I do want a Legacy wagon really bad. Want to find a 94 turbo or turbo a 5spd. 95-96? I think the most practical car in the world is an AWD wagon. Plus, many Subaru enthusiasts forget that the Legacy was the first car Subaru rallied with Prodrive. And until they won a rally with the Legacy, Subaru wasn't going to give them the Impreza. So, the Impreza people and especially all the new WRX owners need to show you guys some more respect. It's to bad we can't get the B4 and other Japanese models or people would look at the Legacy a lot differently. Howabout 170MPH in a B4.............! Keep on modding your Legacies, I love looking and reading about all your guys/gals cars and mods. Makes me want one even more!

Oh forgot to say how tired I am of telling people nowadays that my car IS NOT a WRX! Enjoy your anonymity with the Legacy!

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Old 06-05-2002, 06:22 PM   #18
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Great thread.

I have an extra 5k in my bank account right now that I plan to use to own a second 90-94 legacy. Once I get this car (hoping to pay 3-3.5k) Ill use the additional money to replace all the standard items and give it to my mom. She has always had all these crappy cars and I hate having to fly to southern california to help fix them or make long distance phone calls to repair shops pretending to be the owner.

I know if she owns a legacy wagon awd she will have more than enough room to take her 5+ yorkies (she breeds them) in the back. I know the car will handle well in bad rain or snow and that it is reliable enough even with 150k+ to know you wont get stuck on the side of the road.


Speaking of which, have any of you ever broken down? Im curious to know what happened.
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Old 06-05-2002, 07:47 PM   #19
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My 91LS Wagon stranded us once with a bad alternator (at 160K-miles). Turned into a mini-adventure !! That car took some abuse!!!

On the original note of this post though, I agree with monovich and all others about the exclusivity of a nicely modded Legacy Wagon. Pulled our GT Wagon into a neighborhood tire shop yesterday for a nail repair, right next to a nice A6 Quattro. My Wagon got more double-takes and curious walk-bys than I could believe, from shop personnel, as well as two carpenters doing a construction project there. If it had been debadged I'll bet none would have known what it was!! (License plate might have given us away!)

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Old 06-06-2002, 03:20 AM   #20
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I love the way my car (96 auto GT) continualy suprizes people. After competing in my first autox and winning the novice class AND having the overall fastest time of the day, out of 65 people. I won the next race novice class, so they bumped me to stx. I won that too(by .009). People are seeing what the Legacy can do. And it scares them
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Old 06-06-2002, 06:34 AM   #21
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ciper- Good job. I respect a man that helps his mom.


Biggreen96- Why did they put you in STX? You should be in STS.
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Old 06-06-2002, 08:41 PM   #22
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Hiho- opps that was a mistype, I was in STS.
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Old 06-07-2002, 01:29 PM   #23
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Default i love my car, can anyone post some good sites for parts for it

hey you all seem to be able to trick out your legacies, maybe you can let me know of some places and sites where i can find decent parts for my car, for decent prices.
i want mine to be unlike all other legacies around.
i saw some 65 year old lady driving a car exactly like mine, i was so upset! damn old people.
help me out guys, sites?
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Old 06-07-2002, 04:40 PM   #25
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Hang on there, fellas, I used to have a Legacy (and was probably the first person to go crazy with suspension/brake mods) and now have a WRX wagon. It's all about the Scooby love, and digging what you drive. It doesn't matter what you have, or what anyone else has. Just kick out the jams, and have fun with your car.

The differences are easily explained, actually. The Legacy is an adult car. You can get wheels and brake stuff for it, but in terms of power mods, there is some stuff, but face it...the WRX is the hot car right now. That's life. When something else gets hot, things will move on.

I always viewed Legacy folks as being above all that stuff. Legacies rock, and what is there to talk about, really?

I always thought that if I were going to get another Legacy, I would either a) wait for the turbo Legacy, or get a used GT wagon, bolt on DMS coilovers and a turbo kit (properly done...the expensive way ), and off ya go.

Either way, it's all about the fun.

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