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Old 04-17-2010, 12:07 AM   #1
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A brilliant new Chinese train innovation - get on & off the bullet train without the train stopping. VERY COOL CONCEPT !
No time is wasted. The bullet train is moving all the time. If there are 30 stations between Beijing and Guangzhou, just stopping and accelerating again at each station will waste both energy and ti More..me.
A mere 5 min stop per station (elderly passengers cannot be hurried) will result in a total loss of 5 min x 30 stations or 2.5 hours of train journey time!
How it works (view the movie - in mandarin though!):

1. For those who are boarding the train : The passengers at a station embarks onto to a connector cabin way before the train even arrives at the station. When the train arrives, it will not stop at all. It just slows down to pick up the connector cabin which will move with the train on the roof of the train.
While the train is still moving away from the station, those passengers will board the train from the connector cabin mounted on the train's roof. After fully unloading all its passengers, the cabin connector cabin will be moved to the back of the train so that the next batch of outgoing passengers who want to alight at the next station will board the connector cabin at the rear of the train roof.

2. For those who are getting off: As stated after fully unloading all its passengers, the cabin connector cabin will be moved to the back of the train so that the next batch of outgoing passengers who want to alight at the next station will board the connector cabin at the rear of the train roof. When the train arrives at the next station, it will simply drop the whole connector cabin at the station itself and leave it behind at the station. The outgoing passengers can take their own time to disembark at the station while the train had already left. At the same time, the train will pick up the incoming embarking passengers on another connector cabin in the front part of the train's roof. So the train will always drop one connector cabin at the rear of its roof and pick up a new connector cabin in the front part of the train's roof at each station.
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Pretty innovative
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Old 04-17-2010, 12:10 AM   #2
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Ahhh, very crever!!!!
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Old 04-17-2010, 12:16 AM   #3
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I cannot wait for the horrible disaster to come.
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Old 04-17-2010, 12:18 AM   #4
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Seems like a good idea. I see a potential for a mass casualty event though.

Edit: Damn you vecdran!
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Old 04-17-2010, 12:22 AM   #5
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Damn good idea, but it's Chinese so it's going to fail after the second stop.
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Old 04-17-2010, 12:51 AM   #6
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Damn good idea, but it's Chinese so it's going to fail after the second stop.
So lets steal the idea and do it ourselves.
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Old 04-17-2010, 01:13 AM   #7
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this is at least a few years old
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Old 04-17-2010, 01:47 AM   #8
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Old 04-17-2010, 02:30 AM   #9
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This is pretty sweet.

Stopping is the one annoying on the high speed rail. Feels like you are getting somewhere then you have to make a stop.
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Old 04-17-2010, 02:52 AM   #10
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This is pretty sweet.

Stopping is the one annoying on the high speed rail. Feels like you are getting somewhere then you have to make a stop.
It's still going to slow down, just not stop fully, so you're still going to get that feeling.
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Old 04-17-2010, 03:00 AM   #11
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Old 04-17-2010, 04:11 AM   #12
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diss aster = waiting to happen
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Old 04-17-2010, 06:26 AM   #13
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I cannot wait for the horrible disaster to come.
My first thoughts exactly... "What could possibly go wrong!?"
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Old 04-17-2010, 08:01 AM   #14
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Seems like a good idea. I see a potential for a mass casualty event though.

Edit: Damn you vecdran!
Fingers crossed.
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Old 04-17-2010, 08:27 AM   #15
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This is an overly complicated solution for a simple problem. The way the Japanese (who have many elderly people) solve it is to have many service levels of their bullet train. The fastest stops rarely, the next fastest stops a bit more, and so on down the line. In between stops they go the same max velocity. I'd wager the cost and complexity of this ridiculous system far outweigh the 2 minutes (+ acceleration/deceleration time) that 4 stops between Tokyo and Kyoto adds to the total.

Except for the terminal stops, intermediate stops are only 30 seconds or so--very, very quick. The train arrives exactly when it's scheduled to arrive, the doors open, people file on and off, and it leaves. 5 minutes per stop is ridiculous!
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Lets one up them and invent teleporters.
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:24 AM   #17
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This is an overly complicated solution for a simple problem. The way the Japanese (who have many elderly people) solve it is to have many service levels of their bullet train. The fastest stops rarely, the next fastest stops a bit more, and so on down the line. In between stops they go the same max velocity. I'd wager the cost and complexity of this ridiculous system far outweigh the 2 minutes (+ acceleration/deceleration time) that 4 stops between Tokyo and Kyoto adds to the total.

Except for the terminal stops, intermediate stops are only 30 seconds or so--very, very quick. The train arrives exactly when it's scheduled to arrive, the doors open, people file on and off, and it leaves. 5 minutes per stop is ridiculous!
yeh, i've never seen a train without a purposeful delay stop for more than a minute. yeah, i don't think saving 2 hours is worth the added complexity. pretty neat though
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:32 AM   #18
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:34 AM   #19
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and what happens if more people want to get off then can fit in that top car?
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:46 AM   #20
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and what happens if more people want to get off then can fit in that top car?

they get executed in front of firing squad

duhhh dude, this is 3rd grade social studies
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:15 AM   #21
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this is at least a few years old
so is this tired ass reply.
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:34 AM   #22
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Sounds.... deadly?

If you get those peeps that try to push in at the last second into the little carrier thing.. They either can get bonked by the doors or dragged away down a high speed track. Or the carrier just doesn't fully attach and the train keeps going and an unruly mob beats said individual.
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:35 AM   #23
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Would be better if it was a cart based system. Hop in a cart that propulses it self (magnet like japan) to its only destination. All carts merge on the same main rail but separate themselves from the main rail once they reach destination. No need for empty carts, no need for stops. Two main rails, one for incoming one for outgoing, no cargo carts. Dedicated highspeed rails above ground so that there are no traffic lights either.

I think this is what the US needs. Highspeed non stop rail that can arrive at its destination in a reasonable time.

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Old 04-17-2010, 01:05 PM   #24
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I'm not too familiar with bullet train technology and whatnot, but I'd imagine the main benefit is the conservation of energy that would have been otherwise spent on accelerating the entire train with time saved being an incidental bonus.

I mean, the energy spent to accelerate a wee car up to and down from nigh-bullet train speeds is going to be much less than having the whole train stop and go repeatedly. The actual amount of energy saved will be the same regardless of whether the train would have stopped for 5 seconds or 5 minutes at each stop.
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I'm not too familiar with bullet train technology and whatnot, but I'd imagine the main benefit is the conservation of energy that would have been otherwise spent on accelerating the entire train with time saved being an incidental bonus.

I mean, the energy spent to accelerate a wee car up to and down from nigh-bullet train speeds is going to be much less than having the whole train stop and go repeatedly. The actual amount of energy saved will be the same regardless of whether the train would have stopped for 5 seconds or 5 minutes at each stop.
electric trains with regenerative brakes... not much energy loss imo
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