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Old 04-21-2010, 09:39 PM   #1
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Okay here goes I think twin turbo legacies are super awesome, and yes I know how much work it will be to do a swap having failed at one years before,
so if you think I should just go single turbo, great but i don't want to,
so here is my plan i would like professional, non flame orientated advice the last twin turbo swap I did, I got stuck at the down pipe for the second turbo, it had about half an inch clearance form the brake booster, also I didn't have the the ECU. I was going to pay a local speed shop to put in a custom ecu,
I will buy a front clip say 97-99 with every thing, and then get the same year USDM car so the the wiring will be -1 on the awful scale but still a +5 to frustrating, assuming i have the time and energy and money (I do ) to deal with the wiring, i have got a crazy idea for the 2 turbo's. I saw the most awful honda with a cold air intake popping out of the hood, it looked stupid like all hondas, that you don't paint and don't make go fast only "look fast" but it gave me a cool idea I have always liked the b5 hods with the 2 vents on the side of the impreza rs. I think the best solution is to raise the turbo's outside of the hood and make 2 scoops for them so the air while driving cools them off. also with the with the valley of death, is it possible with boost management to have the first turbo boost down while the second one boosts up in essence covering the vod? i am not to keen on the science behind it but I firmly;y believe it is possible, just like red devils supercharger
any practical suggestions besides " don' do that twin turbos are stupid" or it i will never work cause you are a tool?" i ma willing to have a rational reasoned discussion of the issue and if i am wrong in my idea willing to listen to it, only backed up by logic, not flames not trying to be rude but the twin turbo, thread is very "touchy" like asking somebody if jesus christ has forgiven there sins"
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:04 PM   #2
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Buy a mail wagon and swap that.
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Old 04-22-2010, 12:33 PM   #3
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Buy a mail wagon and swap that.
you know where one would purchase such a car?
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Old 04-22-2010, 03:07 PM   #4
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Craigslist, there are always somethere. Subaru 1st gen Legacy wagon, mail carrier edition or something like that
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Old 04-22-2010, 03:16 PM   #5
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Old 04-22-2010, 03:26 PM   #6
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1. Legacy or Impreza?
2. LHD or RHD?

One of my best friends was the first person to sucessfully complete this swap in an LHD Impreza. It can be done, and it's totally badass. The "valley of death" you always hear about lasts maybe 500rpm and is barely noticeable when you're hauling ass anywhere above 40mph.
Get the transmission, too. It's a glorious piece of machinery.

PM me if you have questions, I'll point you in his direction.
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Old 04-22-2010, 06:17 PM   #7
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1. Legacy or Impreza?
2. LHD or RHD?

One of my best friends was the first person to sucessfully complete this swap in an LHD Impreza. It can be done, and it's totally badass. The "valley of death" you always hear about lasts maybe 500rpm and is barely noticeable when you're hauling ass anywhere above 40mph.
Get the transmission, too. It's a glorious piece of machinery.

PM me if you have questions, I'll point you in his direction.
legacy all the way
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Old 04-22-2010, 06:18 PM   #8
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any ideas on how to get a car that doesn't run to to boise idaho form michigan?
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Old 04-22-2010, 06:23 PM   #9
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wasn't really considering a left hand drive mail car will have to think about that
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Old 04-27-2010, 08:39 AM   #10
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:21 AM   #11
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i did a twin turbo legacy, hardest part was the wiring
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:23 PM   #12
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i did a twin turbo legacy, hardest part was the wiring
did you have help? or figure it out on your own?
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Old 04-29-2010, 08:31 PM   #13
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i had some help from the uk legacy forum, they really know their twin turbos
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:33 AM   #14
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mail wagons are a thing of the past i don't think they were ever made in the 96-00 body style just he first gen body, that said a first gen body is better for emissions restrictions


are you the guy with the failed 95 swap that was posted on the boise craigslist that never answered any emails?
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:37 AM   #15
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RHD postal wagons were made in both the 90-94 body and the 95-99 body. 99 was the last year they were sold in the US.
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:11 AM   #16
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mail wagons are a thing of the past i don't think they were ever made in the 96-00 body style just he first gen body, that said a first gen body is better for emissions restrictions


are you the guy with the failed 95 swap that was posted on the boise craigslist that never answered any emails?
huh? what? was my failed 95 swap posted on craigslist? can you rephrase that?

my 95 swap was like 5 years ago
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Old 05-06-2010, 05:57 AM   #17
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Okay I have to ask why.

Everybody else is converting their twins to single to get something decent and reliable, and you guys trying to put them in!?
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Old 05-06-2010, 09:25 AM   #18
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huh? what? was my failed 95 swap posted on craigslist? can you rephrase that?

my 95 swap was like 5 years ago
there was a failed 95 swap that was locally posted on craigslist i tried to buy it ... the one with the stripped interior ...
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not me the craigslist guy i mean.

and for something reliable that is fine
but i think twin turbos are bad ass plain and simple any old asshat can own a wrx (i do) and it used to be turbo legacies were a dream separated by miles of oceans but a twin turbo legacy is something special like a mustache not every body can do it, and quite frankly not every body is twin turbo material, haven't you ever had a dream? dont you get tired of lack of respect the legacies get? i sure has hell do, plus i failed once before and like mighty Godzilla i am back to destroy tokyo with twin turbo fury!

oh i have searched also what is the deal with single turbo conversion know any good threads i would love to read details
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Ok, I bought a 96 ej20h bg5 outback motor and tranny a few years ago from jhot. It came with everything. Are you sure you want to try to keep all the control stuff working that this setup requires? There is a ton of stuff. Also usually the little turbo goes out first because it goes all the way through the boost stage. The bigger one comes in about 3500 I think. I will probably never use all the control stuff because I probably would not give up trying to make it work, then something that is just about nla would break. I think it was suberdave that sent me the wiring diagrams for this application. Also I read somewhere to use this motor the hyd lifters will probably be stuck and will need to be taken apart and cleaned. I don't mind doing that and I kinda like the hyd lifters. These motors seem to have pretty good head ports. They do have higher compression though so that will require a little tuning care or real good gas. My motor and tranny was low mileage but the oil smelled pretty bad like it had maybe never been changed and the flywheel and pressure plate showed some signs of heat.
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same with the oil i had in mine, clutch was ok though. but i did put mine in my lhd outback and i did get it to run and i was driving it for a while, but i wasnt get the second stage of the turbo to come in, turns out that the first tech that assisted me with wiring fudged up somthing, so now am in the shop again re-doing the wiring...this swap will work if u have all parts, especially the solenoid box, that is a must. i had to get a vacuum tank and a primary duty solenoid, would never start without the duty solenoid

any info u need pm me and i will try to help you plus i have a few diagrams that will be of help to u
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lobo you need to see my 93 then..
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I beat the exhuast would look great on these.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:56 PM   #24
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I beat the exhuast would look great on these.
no matter how you beat the exhaust the twin turbo is in no way better than an impreza sedan/ sti swap of the same vintage
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