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Old 04-23-2010, 11:21 PM   #1
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Default Falken FK452 vs. Hankook v12 Evo...I want 595 rsr but that's not happening.

I've searched....these are the only 2 tires I can afford and I need something to run this summer...I autocross so they will be abused.
The star specs and rt615s are not affordable for me right now (daycare sucks)

I really want the Federal 595 rs-r but they don't come in 245/40/17...only 235/40 or 255/40. I'm gonna run 17x9 +42 DPTs and I don't wanna deal with a bunch of fender mods...if I had an 04 STI I could just roll the fenders like everyone else but the 05+ have that plastic piece to remove and then there's some grinding and then glueing the plastic piece back on blah, blah, blah...don't wanna do it. The Federal 595 rs-r runs wide so the 255 would really be a hassle. so....................the 595ss is out of the question.

FK 452 or v12 Evo???

please just helpful info. I have searched, and searched, and searched.

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Old 04-23-2010, 11:28 PM   #2
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neither save yer $$$

star spec and done
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:25 AM   #3
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which wheels are you running? specs?

and i agree with uncle scotty, starspecs.
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Old 04-24-2010, 01:10 AM   #4
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If you're looking for 245/40... and really want RSR's... and they run really wide but only come in 235/40...

Is that not pretty much perfect?

Plus you want minimal fender mods. I dunnnnoooo...
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:46 AM   #5
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If you're looking for 245/40... and really want RSR's... and they run really wide but only come in 235/40...

Is that not pretty much perfect?

Plus you want minimal fender mods. I dunnnnoooo...
This was my thought at first but the 235/40 is a little short. the width would be fine.
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Old 04-24-2010, 01:15 PM   #6
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Look at the specs again.

How is 0.2" shorter going to be unusable?

Isn't that like <1% diff in diameter?
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Old 04-24-2010, 01:20 PM   #7
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Look at the specs again.

How is 0.2" shorter going to be unusable?

Isn't that like <1% diff in diameter?
I guess you're right. I think I'm about to order the Hankooks after reading A LOT of reviews.

Plus, like Scotty has said, the Federals are on backorder until forever.

Thanks for the help.

My next concern is that I've heard that the v12 evos run narrow.
Is this true?
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Old 04-24-2010, 02:39 PM   #8
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good choice, i'd take the v12 evo over the fk452.
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Old 04-24-2010, 03:03 PM   #9
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Hankooks EVO V12 are nice daily drivers but I am not sure that any auto-x'er likes them.
The biggest complain, if I remember correctly, is lack of feedback. They have decent grip, dry and wet and they are quiet (in my case first 5K, we shall see what happens next).

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you DO NOT WANT THE V12 FOR ANY SERIOUS PERFORMANCE DRIVING

no

you NEED to wait until you can afford the right tire
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Old 04-24-2010, 08:00 PM   #11
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you DO NOT WANT THE V12 FOR ANY SERIOUS PERFORMANCE DRIVING

no

you NEED to wait until you can afford the right tire
Damnit!!!I know you're right. ****!

It's just that I can get the v12s for like $380 shipped after the rebate. That's cheap as hell man.

Well the DPTs I ordered won't be here until the end of May so...I guess I can wait. I just feel like I have to get something now.

Maybe the Federals will exist by then.

Or I'll be able to afford the Dunlops or rt615s.

Thanks for the help dude.

Why you always gotta be right?
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Old 04-24-2010, 09:13 PM   #12
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Damnit!!!I know you're right. ****!

It's just that I can get the v12s for like $380 shipped after the rebate. That's cheap as hell man.

Well the DPTs I ordered won't be here until the end of May so...I guess I can wait. I just feel like I have to get something now.

Maybe the Federals will exist by then.

Or I'll be able to afford the Dunlops or rt615s.

Thanks for the help dude.

Why you always gotta be right?
FORGET the 615

consider the Nt05
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:52 PM   #13
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ive run the v12 evos, and in my personal experiance they handled awesome, but thats just me, they stuck better than my proxes
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Old 04-24-2010, 11:04 PM   #14
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ive run the v12 evos, and in my personal experiance they handled awesome, but thats just me, they stuck better than my proxes

Did you autox with them?

That's my main priority. They will be my DD summer tires but I want to stand a chance at autox events.

I have 235/40/18 Goodyear Eagle GT on my Prodrives and those are fine for DD but....I want something that's for real. That's the whole reason I'm getting the 17x9s.


Checking out nt05s right now.

thanks

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the NT05s only come in 235/40 or 255/40. They're just as pricy as the Star Specs. They looking ****ing sweet though.

I really wanna run 245/40.

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Old 04-25-2010, 12:55 AM   #15
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Did you autox with them?

That's my main priority. They will be my DD summer tires but I want to stand a chance at autox events.

I have 235/40/18 Goodyear Eagle GT on my Prodrives and those are fine for DD but....I want something that's for real. That's the whole reason I'm getting the 17x9s.


Checking out nt05s right now.

thanks

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the NT05s only come in 235/40 or 255/40. They're just as pricy as the Star Specs. They looking ****ing sweet though.

I really wanna run 245/40.
YEW DO NOT REALIZE JUST HOW WIDE SOME OF THESE 235/40 TIRES REALLY ARE
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Old 04-25-2010, 01:25 AM   #16
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YEW DO NOT REALIZE JUST HOW WIDE SOME OF THESE 235/40 TIRES REALLY ARE
I totally understand that they may run wide but does that mean they are also taller than a "normal" 235/40?

**** it...maybe I'll just get 235s then. Honestly, I don't have experience with a bunch of different tires.

If 235/40s will do it then that's fine. They're cheaper.
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Old 04-25-2010, 04:45 PM   #17
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I'm going to chime in with Dunlop Star Specs as well. In many sizes, they're cheaper than the Falken 452s you're considering.
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I'm going to chime in with Dunlop Star Specs as well. In many sizes, they're cheaper than the Falken 452s you're considering.

I'm sure they are in like a 195/60/16....I need 235/40/17 or bigger.

Not trying to be a dick...I just need to step up and get the tires I need and not try to find qualities in a cheaper tire that don't exist.

I'm saving for the star specs...I think

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I'm saving for the star specs...I think

Thanks
Then do it right and get 255's.
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Then do it right and get 255's.
okay...
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I have an 05 STi with rear Fenders rolled only lowered on RCE Bronze springs with RCE lowering camber plates sitting 235's with a 35mm offset rim and I have 0 rubbing issues! I also had Falken RT-615's with 245's and no issues as well.
My rear fender flares are perfectly fine no cracking but you gotta make sure the rolling is done right!!!!

I think you should be fine if you roll your rear fenders a little!

Heres a quick pic.

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So you left you flares intact and just rolled the inner fender like normal? Interesting.
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I have an 05 STi with rear Fenders rolled only lowered on RCE Bronze springs with RCE lowering camber plates sitting 235's with a 35mm offset rim and I have 0 rubbing issues! I also had Falken RT-615's with 245's and no issues as well.
My rear fender flares are perfectly fine no cracking but you gotta make sure the rolling is done right!!!!

I think you should be fine if you roll your rear fenders a little!

Heres a quick pic.

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my buddy has 255/40s on 17x9 wheels on his 05 wrx and tells me that he will use the 245/40 next time.....too much tire

and he won his regional autox class in his car after listening to me about suspension setup/parts---other than the tire size
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I won my regional autox class running 245's on 7" wheels, stock motor and the car needed much more tire and it was on my own suspension suggestions. I'm guessing a modded STI and WRX would be better off with more tire as well, but that's just me. OP, you can post in the motorsport forums to get some more educated opinions...........
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my buddy has 255/40s on 17x9 wheels on his 05 wrx and tells me that he will use the 245/40 next time.....too much tire

and he won his regional autox class in his car after listening to me about suspension setup/parts---other than the tire size
I really appreciate your advice dude.
I'm thinking by the time I save enough to buy good tires, I will have decided which size to go with.

I'm not gonna lie...I love the look of 255s (or really wide 235s, 245s whatever...big ass tires)

But honestly, I probably have no use for that much tire. So it really comes down to what's realistic. I'm totally confused. thanks.
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