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Old 04-26-2010, 11:34 AM   #1
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Default WRX 4pot calipers fit on '04 LGT???

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Will the WRX Red 4pot calipers fit on '04 LGT non-turbo???
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:37 AM   #2
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Old 04-26-2010, 12:20 PM   #3
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Are there any pics?

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Old 04-26-2010, 12:34 PM   #4
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You'll most likely need 17" wheels to clear the calipers.
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Old 04-27-2010, 10:12 PM   #5
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You'll most likely need 17" wheels to clear the calipers.
No, you don't. certain 16's can fit (like the 2.5RS 6 spoke and 5 spoke wheels).

My old autox setup (16" wheels w/ shorter sidewall R compounds), over 4 pots.


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Old 04-28-2010, 12:52 PM   #6
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No, you don't. certain 16's can fit (like the 2.5RS 6 spoke and 5 spoke wheels).

My old autox setup (16" wheels w/ shorter sidewall R compounds), over 4 pots.


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I said most likely because I wouldn't think a lot of people have those specific 16" wheels
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:21 PM   #7
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I said most likely because I wouldn't think a lot of people have those specific 16" wheels
It's not even "specific", it just needs a 7"+ width and 45-48 offset to clear the back of the spokes, I've had about 4 random sets of 16" wheels that I've picked up off CL that cleared my old 4 pots fine. There's nothing too impressive about the brakes themselves either, there's a marginal increase in pedal feedback, but youre still using the same size rotor.

The fun begins when trying to find 15inch wheels that will fit over them.
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:55 PM   #8
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It's not even "specific", it just needs a 7"+ width and 45-48 offset to clear the back of the spokes, I've had about 4 random sets of 16" wheels that I've picked up off CL that cleared my old 4 pots fine. There's nothing too impressive about the brakes themselves either, there's a marginal increase in pedal feedback, but youre still using the same size rotor.

The fun begins when trying to find 15inch wheels that will fit over them.

Dude there is a huge diff in performance over the stocks. Also, the rotors are not the same size. The 4 pot rotors are about 1/2" larger (than my 98 2 pot OEM's at least) and brake fade is largely reduced. IIRC the rotors are as follows:

pre my00 2 pots= 260x24 mm
post my00 2 pots= 276x24mm
wrx 4 pot rotor=294x24mm

So in my case I gained a 34mm larger rotor. NTL 18mm is still a good change.

I also have the two pots though and SS lines. Maybe the combo helps more then just the fronts. These brakes and the 5 spd conversion were the best mods I have ever done.

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Old 05-01-2010, 01:12 AM   #9
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Dude there is a huge diff in performance over the stocks. Also, the rotors are not the same size. The 4 pot rotors are about 1/2" larger (than my 98 2 pot OEM's at least) and brake fade is largely reduced. IIRC the rotors are as follows:

pre my00 2 pots= 260x24 mm
post my00 2 pots= 276x24mm
wrx 4 pot rotor=294x24mm

So in my case I gained a 34mm larger rotor. NTL 18mm is still a good change.

I also have the two pots though and SS lines. Maybe the combo helps more then just the fronts. These brakes and the 5 spd conversion were the best mods I have ever done.
1-pots are 260mm. The small 2-pots are 276mm. They're on 1st gen turbo legacies, and then later LGTs and outbacks and whatnot. Sometime around 02 the LGT got 294mm rotors, and then 316mm for 05.
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Old 05-01-2010, 07:22 AM   #10
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Gotcha. So depending on the year your car is, the rotor size may not be increased by doing this conversion.

I still gained quite a bit though, the copnversion was def worth it for me.

Thanks! I couldnt remember what was what. I could only remember the sizes and numbers.

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Old 05-01-2010, 03:14 PM   #11
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1265631

according to this 02 lgts got the bigger brakes. That was one part I wasn't completely clear on though.
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Old 05-01-2010, 07:06 PM   #12
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The fun begins when trying to find 15 inch wheels that will fit over them.
15x8" +45mm TE-37s fit.



The permanently encrusted brake dust only helps the fitment.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:01 PM   #13
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I do hate how darn dusty they are. I have Axxis pads and I can was my wheels, drive around the block and they are black again.
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Nice, good info, I am gonna stay with my '04 LGT setup than. Save the money for swap.

I will in the future move up to '05 Legacy Front caliper and disc and '04 H6 rear disc and caliper.
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:02 AM   #15
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I said most likely because I wouldn't think a lot of people have those specific 16" wheels
Are you brake setup still the FHI 4pots, with the turbo engine???

Any brake fade???

I am not sure if you track your car or not as far auto X or Actual Time Attack

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Old 05-08-2010, 12:09 AM   #16
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15x8" +45mm TE-37s fit.



The permanently encrusted brake dust only helps the fitment.
Nice wheels, must be so light in weight.

The Work lug nuts are super light weight too. I have them on the other car I've got
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:59 AM   #17
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Nice, good info, I am gonna stay with my '04 LGT setup than. Save the money for swap.

I will in the future move up to '05 Legacy Front caliper and disc and '04 H6 rear disc and caliper.
You already have the "H6" brake upgrade stock. All 00-04's came with 11.4" rear brakes. You can measure yours to double check, but do it before you actually buy the parts.
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I meant the vented rear disc
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Nice wheels, must be so light in weight.
9.5#, wheel/tire combo is about 29.5#.

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The Work lug nuts are super light weight too.
They're actually the RAYS ones. From pictures I've seen of the two, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they're made by the same manufacturer and just have the different brand name on the end - they look identical other than the name.

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I meant the vented rear disc
Then that's the '05+ 2.5GT setup.
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Old 05-09-2010, 07:38 PM   #20
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I meant the vented rear disc
yeah like pat said, 05+LGT setup, its still the same rotor diameter though, and honestly your rear brakes do very little work as it is, the possibility of fade back there is low.
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If you havent already done it, get the stainless brake lines. They increase pedal responce and feel drastically. They are pretty cheap too. Also get a good fluid. I personally use Valvoline synthetic dot 4 fluid and have liked it a lot.
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If you havent already done it, get the stainless brake lines. They increase pedal responce and feel drastically. They are pretty cheap too. Also get a good fluid. I personally use Valvoline synthetic dot 4 fluid and have liked it a lot.
I have the SS lines installed when it was time to replace the pads and I sheered the caliper bolt. I previous owner must have had some mechanic way over tightened or it just rusted in place. At that point I just ordered Semi-loaded front GT calipers and fr & r rotor disc.

I also flush the fluids out with Motul RBF600, but I will reflush it and put something else in. I had a lot of it left from a track car I setup.
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Is there anything else that needs to be upgraded? Or will these just fit right on? By that I mean master cylinder, anything along those lines?
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