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Old 04-27-2010, 11:34 PM   #1
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just installed tokico d-spec strut and lowering spring setup on my 04 sti
rears dropped like they were suppose to but fronts r sitting at the same height maybe higher
i have taken apart 3 times. install is correct. ???????????? so lost
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:39 PM   #2
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Which springs and top hats?
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:55 PM   #3
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tokico springs. stock 04 sti top hats
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:13 AM   #4
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I don't know the specs of the tokico springs so I think you're going to have to contact them.

I'm assuming you've driven the car or at least bounced it a bit to make sure it's not stuck in droop.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:38 AM   #5
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Been driving on it for 2 days now, and it hasn't settled.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:38 AM   #6
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:47 AM   #7
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Positive you've got the front springs on the front and rears in the rear heh? I know it's a stupid question but I've seen it done a couple times with a similar problem to what your stating.
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:20 AM   #8
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are you using the front springs in the rear and vice versa? wider/shorter springs go up front, narrower/longer springs go in back.
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I'm not familiar with the Tokico springs, but I do have the D-specs and like them. I agree you might confirm that you have the shorter springs in the front, taller ones in the rear. You can also contact Tokico and ask them directly. I had a couple of questions when I installed my d-specs and used their "contact support" form on their website. One of their engineers got back to me within a few hours with good info and answers.
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i have front springs in front and rears in the rear lol
im getting kinda frusterated with this.. im going to call tokico
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:29 PM   #11
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do u have that number for tech support
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:27 PM   #12
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Is there any chance that you have the upper spring perch rotated 180 out (holes in vs. out)? Is there any way this is possible? I installed a set of d-specs in my 04 WRX last night and things went well (slowly, but well) and I see no change in ride height compared to the STi take-offs I had previously.

Good luck, I know this stuff can drive ya nuts.
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double checked the perch, everything is in order...
cant figure this one out ?
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pictures would help
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Also, when you put the top perches on, did you make sure that center rod was actually through the center hole? If not, the perch will sit on the machined edge of the center rod and not properly seat. Yes, you can do this and still install the tophat.

Did you do the install yourself or have a friend help? I'm asking because it's of course easier to do the reassembly with one or two people helping you.

One person has to hold the strut while the other pushes down on the perch to make sure it clears the strut rod, then the third person puts the tophat on and tightens the nut. This way the perch does not pop-up and sit on that machined edge.
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Yes, lets also refresh our minds that most springs may appear to lower the rear more, however if you take into consideration the arches in the front are larger. This contributes to a visual effect. Some center of hub to fender measurements are acceptable too. Just grab a tape measure!

Edit: Misinterpeted same height or higher as: "same height as the rear or a touch higher" vs "higher than stock height"

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Old 12-27-2010, 06:06 PM   #17
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i just installed dspecs and rce blacks on my 04 STi and Im having a similar issue. The front is about 1" higher then it should be. Is this because the dspec housing is taller?

I have an 05 STi here with the same springs on stock struts and the back is identical car to car.

When you put the dspecs next to the stock struts, and line up the perches, the dspecs are substantially longer.......
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i just installed dspecs and rce blacks on my 04 STi and Im having a similar issue. The front is about 1" higher then it should be. Is this because the dspec housing is taller?

I have an 05 STi here with the same springs on stock struts and the back is identical car to car.

When you put the dspecs next to the stock struts, and line up the perches, the dspecs are substantially longer.......
i wanna see a pic of this
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:29 PM   #19
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I sold my factory 04 STi suspension today, but my partner and I both looked at it and the height difference was substantial between the perch and the lower knuckle bolts. Ill look through our extra stuff and see if we have a set of struts from another STi, but I know we dont have anymore pink stuff from an 04 kicking around. The only reason I looked for a difference was that putting in the dspecs took more effort than taking out the factory stuff, I had to really pull down the knuckle to get them in there.

I was glad that the 05 we did a little awhile ago with the same springs pulled in to get the winter wheels swap on and I was able to measure the arch - wheel center distance.

Its one of those things Ive just never run into....Ill shoot the guy i doly my stuff too a txt and see if he can get a measurement on the factory struts. Maybe someone on here has a set of 04 front struts around?
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heres a quick cell shot of the STi after the install....
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i have a set. which measurement do you need? bottom of strut to perch? and top of clevis to perch?
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the difference in the height of the 04 pink strut and the dspec was in the strut body between the lower clevis and the perch. so as long as we clearly define where we are measuring i think well be ok.

I forgot to include the numbers I have arch - wheel center measurement (give or take a tenth):

My 04 STi bone stock
Front: 15.2"
Rear: 14.4"

My 04 STi w dspecs and RCE Blacks
Front: 15.5"
Rear: 14"

Customers 05 STi w factory struts and RCE Blacks
Front: 14.7"
Rear: 13.9"

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ok, my friend I sold the factory suspension too sent me over a measurement i can use to compare. I will measure the Dspecs asap the same way.

this measures 10.5" from the bottom of the perch to the center of the lower clevis hole



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nobody that has used those tokico springs has been happy with them

ditch them and get real springs
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