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Old 09-01-2011, 03:45 PM   #1
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So I bought my STi about a month ago and love it. I am a road racer and wasn't planning on tracking my car until I was scheduled off and there just so happened to be a track day happening.
I race FWD cars so this should be an interesting experience for me in AWD. I am probably going to have some AWD friends ride along and give some hints or how not to crash and to push a stock STi to the limits. I am excited to try it out and use my go pro for the first time to see how horrible I am with a new car!
Any helpful hints about tire pressure or anything else useful is appreciated
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:04 PM   #2
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So I bought my STi about a month ago and love it. I am a road racer and wasn't planning on tracking my car until I was scheduled off and there just so happened to be a track day happening.
I race FWD cars so this should be an interesting experience for me in AWD. I am probably going to have some AWD friends ride along and give some hints or how not to crash and to push a stock STi to the limits. I am excited to try it out and use my go pro for the first time to see how horrible I am with a new car!
Any helpful hints about tire pressure or anything else useful is appreciated
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:09 PM   #3
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I'd change the oil if it hasn't been done recently. Run your tires pressures up a couple of PSI from the Subaru suggested pressure. Pay careful attention to your tires and brakes -- depending on how hard you push the car, you may severely punish both. Stock brake pads are okay for moderate track use, but if you start going very fast and using the brake hard, they may fade.

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Old 09-01-2011, 04:14 PM   #4
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Thanks, I planned on changing the oil before since its been about 4,000 miles. I also planned on changing my brake fluid to super blue to help a little bit with brake fad issues.
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:27 PM   #5
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Super Blue is good fluid.

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Old 09-01-2011, 05:16 PM   #6
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Yeah, pretty much just change all the fluids and check the condition of the brake pads.

Driving an AWD car isn't really that much different than a FWD car. The trick is usually getting them to turn-in. Once they are turned-in, just get on the throttle and go.
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Old 09-01-2011, 11:53 PM   #7
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Thanks now since I'm going to road America too in October with it I am getting an alignment to get some negative camber, since its slightly positive now and some toe. Any suggestions?
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Old 09-02-2011, 07:48 AM   #8
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If you already have experience road racing, You should get up to speed pretty quickly. This means you will quickly overheat/destroy the stock brake pads. I strongly suggest getting a set of race/track brake pads and swapping them in for the event, and make sure you properly bed them in.

As for the car, it's going to understeer...a LOT, so be prepared for that. Slow in, fast out.
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Old 09-02-2011, 01:45 PM   #9
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What year is your STi?

Also, remember to carry a tire pressure gauge. Once your tires heat up after the first laps you will want to lower your tire pressure.

Which tracks do you usually race at?. Since you mentioned Road America I'm guessing you are in the midwest region.
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:53 PM   #10
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Oh understeer, fun!!
Its a 2006. I have a gauge but need a starting pressure, any ideas? Staggered? Same all the way around?
We just have a small track in Shawano, wi. Then road America and blackhawk farms I have been to.
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Old 09-02-2011, 09:23 PM   #11
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I would start with factory recommended psi....then you will reduce the pressure according to the grip level you are getting...you should also check out BIR website in mn...nice track
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Remove your oil pan and check the oil pickup tube for cracks, and/or replace it with an upgraded pan/pickup tube. My first track event with my 06 STi the oil pickup tube broke and destroyed the engine. Very expensive track event.

Other than that, get some good brake pads, check the oil level a lot, and toss it around a little. Slow in/ fast out? Nope, fast in/ fast out.
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Old 09-02-2011, 10:55 PM   #13
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Above is good, plus do not use the e-brake when you come back into the pit...

Check all the oils, might log the car before the event to check for anything unknown. Like a ecu tune for parts no longer on the car.
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Old 09-02-2011, 11:26 PM   #14
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:17 AM   #15
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The car was checked over for anything like that by a subaru shop in OR since I bought it there and drove it back to WI. So the car has always been stock. All the oils will be checked.
I was thinking super blue brake fluid for the STi since that is what I ran in my civic. Now my brother (who thinks he knows everything) said I should not use it and its not good for the car. True or untrue...?
I will be having a few different AWD guys ride along with me and give some pointers so that should help!
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Which is it DOT 3? 4 ? 5?

I'd hate to tell you how many times I have heard that story in my line of work. After telling someone their motor is broken.
Not saying its a problem here. But buyer beware always applies. Ounce checking is worth a pound of repair bills.
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The car was checked over for anything like that by a subaru shop in OR since I bought it there and drove it back to WI. So the car has always been stock. All the oils will be checked.
I was thinking super blue brake fluid for the STi since that is what I ran in my civic. Now my brother (who thinks he knows everything) said I should not use it and its not good for the car. True or untrue...?
I will be having a few different AWD guys ride along with me and give some pointers so that should help!
If you are running stock or street pads SuperBlue won't be the weak link.

You should check your front pads. STi's are so heavy/fast - even moderate track use will heat up the front brakes quite a bit and marginal pads will make an expensive day a lot less fun. Countless threads on here about that.
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I believe it is Dot 4 and I am picking up Hawk HP pads this week too.
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I believe it is Dot 4 and I am picking up Hawk HP pads this week too.
If you've got some experience I would go with a better pad than the plain HPs.

I'll reiterate: slow in/ fast out
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I believe it is Dot 4 and I am picking up Hawk HP pads this week too.
HPS or HP+? Big difference.
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Okay, I'll clarify - slow in/understeer out, fast in/fun out. Better?
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HPS not the plus's. I am not really a fan of the HP +'s. If I was going to track the car more and modify it i would do the HP +'s but I don't like the noise they create or the dust. They ruined my work emotions right after having them power coated. Form > function yes... but since this was just supposed to be a car to drive me around I can't get too crazy and make work for myself. I was trying to get away from constantly wrenching and cleaning.
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HPS not the plus's. I am not really a fan of the HP +'s. If I was going to track the car more and modify it i would do the HP +'s but I don't like the noise they create or the dust. They ruined my work emotions right after having them power coated. Form > function yes... but since this was just supposed to be a car to drive me around I can't get too crazy and make work for myself. I was trying to get away from constantly wrenching and cleaning.
You don't run them on the street. With the weight of the subie the HPS will just not work for much more than very light track duty. I'm not sure what FWD car you're used to driving but you WILL have issues with the HPS overheating if you are even moderately fast in the STI.

With your comments I have to wonder how much tracking experience you have under your belt. Having decent pads to slow you down is much more important than a little dust on your rims and noise. Swapping pads takes 30 mins max. Your track day will be much more fun and safe for that little bit of work.

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Okay, I'll clarify - slow in/understeer out, fast in/fun out. Better?
You're going to honestly say this to someone just starting out tracking a subie?
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I am saying these things because these 3 track days within the next year is all I am going to be going to. It was a last minute decision because I am not going to be road racing a spec miata like I was supposed too so I don't want to spend too much money on pads that will barely be used. Many people said that stock pads would even be ok and I am not listening to that. And since its not a track car I don't want to ruin things on it and these are just fun track days I am out for only 15 minute sessions at a time. I have done about 20+/- track days in the last 2 years.
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I am saying these things because these 3 track days within the next year is all I am going to be going to. It was a last minute decision because I am not going to be road racing a spec miata like I was supposed too so I don't want to spend too much money on pads that will barely be used. Many people said that stock pads would even be ok and I am not listening to that. And since its not a track car I don't want to ruin things on it and these are just fun track days I am out for only 15 minute sessions at a time. I have done about 20+/- track days in the last 2 years.
Ok then with that kind of experience you will wear out the HPS and stock pads very quickly. I didn't mean to insult you its just weird when someone is more worried about dust on their rims than being able to stop at speed.

This is a heavy car that needs a pad that can take better temps. I would venture to say the HPS' wouldn't last you the 3 track days if you are remotely fast. The worst a better pad is going to do is give you a little dust, which the HPS' will too as they disintegrate when they get up to track temps.

Keep the stock pads for the street and by some front track pads I prefer carbotech xp10's personally but the HP+'s would be fine. You asked for people with experience to give you advice and there it is.
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