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Old 05-02-2010, 07:40 PM   #1
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Legacy Anyone take their Legacy to the track?

Well, I currently am a owner of an 98' Outback and am thinking about buying a 2.5gt (97-99) and building up as a good autox / track day car. I was wondering if anyone has a Legacy built up for the track and if its a capable car to race with or is a GC8 a better pick. Also suspension setups that people are using and how they work at the track would be great also. Thanks
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:22 PM   #2
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Patrick who frequents these boards has done lots of track time with the Legacy.

My autocross vid.


My car at Pacific Raceways.


Hoping to make more videos soon.
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:41 PM   #3
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Is that a HUD???
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:53 PM   #4
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Kraziken - gotta link me to some pictures and a mod list lol
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Old 05-03-2010, 09:10 PM   #5
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Kraziken - gotta link me to some pictures and a mod list lol
My cardomain link (you find it by clicking my name and selecting home page too). Has most of my mods, it needs to be updated to show my new chin spoiler.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2199060/1


Just fixing bunch of broken stuff now. Coilovers just came back from being rebuilt, rear brakes are making some noise so I think I need new pads. I'd like to fix/add the hoodscoop splitter, and fix the angle on my JDM power mirrors before my next track session.
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:16 PM   #6
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Thanks alot, I can see you put alot of work into your car and it looks awesome. I'll have to see if Patrick on here can also give some insight on setups too
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:51 PM   #7
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Well, I currently am a owner of an 98' Outback and am thinking about buying a 2.5gt (97-99) and building up as a good autox / track day car. I was wondering if anyone has a Legacy built up for the track and if its a capable car to race with or is a GC8 a better pick. Also suspension setups that people are using and how they work at the track would be great also. Thanks
Unless you want the bigger car for some other reason (more space to carry people/stuff, something like that), I would say there's ZERO reason to start with the 2.5GT instead of a GC 2.5RS for an auto-x/track day car. Same drivetrain in a vehicle with a shorter wheelbase and that weighs about 250# less is a no brainer IMO.

Don't get me wrong, I've had a good time auto-xing and open tracking my 2.5GTs. But there are certainly better platforms to start with, both in the Subaru family and outside the Subaru family. In stock trim the car is pretty dirt slow in a straight line (I was barely - I mean barely - pulling a Spec Miata down the straights at VIR two weeks ago ), but it's too heavy to be a "momentum car" like a Miata or old RX-7 or old GTI, so you're kind of in a nether world of driving lines. Unless you cheat and do a turbo swap like Kraziken!

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Old 05-04-2010, 07:50 PM   #8
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It isn't a bad experience, and I say if it is your only car then go do it, even without mods. It is a good learning experience.

The mods I've done certainly make it a lot more fun. With that said, with these cars you do start to notice big weaknesses when you ramp up the track time.

I'd really like to run some wider rubber, and I might get Johann's help with this in the near future.

The steering is slow. I'm definately looking at a Q-rack, just not sure when it slots in on my upgrade want list.

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For just starting off, I would say just a basic sway bar upgrade can make a big improvement. I think the car felt pretty good with front and rear sways and lowering springs.
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:37 PM   #9
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Pat- I actually own a 98 2.5rs, but for the crazy prices theses are going for I could sell it buy a Legacy and have money left over to help get the build started. Plus I love the look and practicality of the Legacy sedan / wagon over my tiny rs and you don't see as many 2nd gen legacys at the track like you see Imprezas, so it would be cool to do something more unique.... As for power for either my impreza or if I get a legacy- Im slowing gathering parts for a DIY supercharger build Baseing my build off of this build.

http://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14362
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Old 05-06-2010, 11:01 PM   #10
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I used my '03 Leggy GT as a backup car once for time trials when my Miata was bustified. The car was completely stock, I left the baby seats in the back, and it did better than I thought.

I somewhat agree with Pat - it depends on your goals. I do the NASA time trials series, and I think a Legacy could have some potential if it was built to a specific class (IE TTF or maybe TTE?). However if you are just going out there to have fun at track days - going with a lighter car is probably always a good thing.

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Old 05-07-2010, 02:55 AM   #11
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b5a4,

I race my 96 GT. WRX swap 230h/240t, 17" OZ 35+ offset, 22/45/17 Falken Azenis.. too much to list suspension stuff.

This Sunday I'll be autocrossing at Hershey Giant center lot. That's about 1.5hr drive. http://www.cpa-pca.org/events/2010/5...oss/index.html





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Old 05-07-2010, 11:58 AM   #12
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Well, I currently am a owner of an 98' Outback and am thinking about buying a 2.5gt (97-99) and building up as a good autox / track day car. I was wondering if anyone has a Legacy built up for the track and if its a capable car to race with or is a GC8 a better pick? Also suspension setups that people are using and how they work at the track would be great also. Thanks.
Stupid Question: I you already own an Outback, why rush out and purchase a GT. If you are planning on a new suspension anyways dropping your Outback will leave you with what is a GT chassis just with larger anti-sway bars and slightly shorter overall gearing (after you swap the 205/70-15" for 205/50-17" sized tyres). This way you retain the functionality of a wagon that can give you some entertainment while auto-xing or watching track cars blow by you whilst enjoying the lovely scenery.
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Old 05-07-2010, 12:37 PM   #13
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That's like many people telling me to Auto-X my G35X instead of the WRX swapped Legacy since it's N/A, more intelligent AWD, same power to weight as my Legacy but better powerband/response(vq35 n/a) AND that's STOCK. Reason why not: I'm not willing to sacrifice any comfort with my G even if it runs faster than my Legacy.

Personally If I had a Legacy Wagon and have the means(funds) to build another car(which I do) I wouldn't bastard-size it for auto-x/track duty, granted you can make anything fast. I would use a lighter 4 door sedan and mod it. Why destroy the smooth stock feel of your current car.

Must be a PA thing. If you lived in our state you'd understand our roads are terrible.

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Old 05-09-2010, 05:02 PM   #14
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Jonathan- PAImportTuner pretty much sumed it up for me. The Outback works great as my DD and hauls all my gear when I go camping / kyacking and also huals all my stuff to College in NY. So I prefer to have a second car that I can run coilovers and tight suspension on and not have to worry about driving in winter / breaking something and be out of a car.
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