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Old 08-30-2010, 01:19 AM   #51
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Yeah you're telln me bud
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:29 PM   #52
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what happened?
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:50 PM   #53
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I got my phone stolen that had the pictures and video of his break-in tune at maxwell as well as pics from the last couple weeks of assembly.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:21 PM   #54
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Noooooooo......
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:04 PM   #55
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Found the phone bump
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:07 PM   #56
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:10 PM   #57
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:16 PM   #58
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Theres no particular order to these pics...fyi
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:19 PM   #59
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The car is having a few hiccups and should now be tuning but no answer on how its going yet so either its no news is good news or its so bad he is thinking of a way to let me know the bad news.

Definately thumbs up for Dom as he has been great and is trying to get me where I need to be.
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:16 AM   #60
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Good news, I heard something different and was bummed. Glad it wasn't the other. Darn PSNS gossip...
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Old 09-03-2010, 08:24 PM   #61
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So it's official, the engine is toast, the extent of the damages to follow. Dom never really got to tune it as it was having problems before he got to work his magic. Basicly it's all assumptions right now but I have a strong feeling that the person that did the short block assembly did a substandard job (being nice) and they are not on here. I guess learn my lesson is all I can say. So I am now looking to have Dom redo the engine and I know he will get it right.
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Old 09-03-2010, 08:30 PM   #62
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Oh ya I have a dog to kick, wife to yell at me and I need to track down the guy that built the short block a d kick the holy crap out of.
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Old 09-03-2010, 09:22 PM   #63
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Good news, I heard something different and was bummed. Glad it wasn't the other. Darn PSNS gossip...
You guys are worse than a knitting society. Don't jinx..... oh, nevermind!

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So it's official, the engine is toast, the extent of the damages to follow. Dom never really got to tune it as it was having problems before he got to work his magic. Basicly it's all assumptions right now but I have a strong feeling that the person that did the short block assembly did a substandard job (being nice) and they are not on here. I guess learn my lesson is all I can say. So I am now looking to have Dom redo the engine and I know he will get it right.
Holy freakin.... Noooooo! Have an old, pre serial number, bat you can have. Looking forward to the results of the re-build. Very sorry to hear.

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Old 09-03-2010, 10:15 PM   #64
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So it's official, the engine is toast, the extent of the damages to follow. Dom never really got to tune it as it was having problems before he got to work his magic. Basicly it's all assumptions right now but I have a strong feeling that the person that did the short block assembly did a substandard job (being nice) and they are not on here. I guess learn my lesson is all I can say. So I am now looking to have Dom redo the engine and I know he will get it right.
Oh crap ! That really sucks, I sorry to hear that. Everything was looking so good with your build too.
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Old 09-04-2010, 01:42 AM   #65
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So its almost back out, should be able to deliver it to Dom when he is back from the three day weekend
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Old 09-04-2010, 02:59 PM   #66
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Just to help out the questions, here are the current issues:

The engine has an 11mm pump that is shimmed and that should yield lots of oil pressure. Problem is that when the engine gets warm the pressure drops low enough at idle for the oil light to come on.

When warm the engine cranks very very slow, voltage drops to about 8-9volts and the engine makes a squeeking sound. When the engine is cold, it fires right up and drives very well.

I'm looking forward to getting her apart and getting the opportunity to blueprint this motor and getting her ready for some serious power.
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:09 PM   #67
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So do to a shoddy short block assy by a unamed shop this engine is dead. It lasted about 2 hours after breakin and then started acting funny and oil presure was dropping like a rock. Pulled it apart and found all 4 rods blued at the caps and bearings toast. It was found the culprit was improper clearences on the rods, way too tight. The mains are fine but the rods are shot, heads got debris through them and the cam journals are all shot along with the cams at the journals, oil pump, oil cooler, ect, ect.

So $8k down the f'ing drain...... I am now looking at a MPS destroker, 103mm bore, long rod, 75mm stroke = 2.5L destroker that they have proven will spin 9k no problem.
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:20 PM   #68
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Ouch... care to name the shop that f'ed you over? Sorry to hear this, I was looking forward to seeing some numbers. Good luck with the rebuild.

Have they ever done a 2.5l destroker (I'm assuming they have)? Sounds real interesting...
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:56 PM   #69
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Sorry for you loss. How do you know it was a clearance issue if all the rods and bearings were toast? Just make sure you the actual source of the issue otherwise it will happen again.
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Old 09-06-2010, 04:21 PM   #70
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Sorry for you loss. How do you know it was a clearance issue if all the rods and bearings were toast? Just make sure you the actual source of the issue otherwise it will happen again.
I hear you Mick, the person who assembled the short block has failed on all 4 subies he has done. He is normally a v8 guy that has proven high HP NA small and big blocks but for some reason he is a retard with subies. BTW mine was assembled after he did his first one and I should have had somebody recheck his work and yes I was warned by a few subie guru's in our area and I ignored and now I pay the price.

When Mike from PIA and I pulled it apart it was very obvious that was the problem. All the rods where VERY tight and the bearings never spun. It also showed signs of this as it would come to temp it would be harder to turn over i.e. things where expanding and binding due to clearence issues. The new build will be done by Dom and its very obvious that his abilities with a subie are top notch.

The destroked 2.5L may havent been done (not totaly sure) but the small bore 2.35L is similar based and is a awsome little monster now throw some big bore at it?

Not sure the details as he probably doesnt want them all over the web, not sure? but I trust his abilities plus some very informed subie guys have told me to go this way as well.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:02 PM   #71
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with a 102.5mm bore the displacement is exactly that of a stock STi. However, the rods are longer and the stroke is shorter which will yield a great engine for just about any power range or level.

My 99.5 mm engine is 2.33L (142 ci) and still gets full boost by 4800 on a GT35R w/ .82 single scroll setup and NO AVCS.

Needless to say, with the right cams and some AVCS, this engine should be a monster.

Actual rod length for this build will depend on the OP and his budget. We can do +2mm rods in an H beam that I have in my STi or longer rods like I have in my RS. The choice is his.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:22 PM   #72
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Probably leaning to doing the longer rods like your rs, its a difference of $300 or so at this point why not? I know budget was talked about but I am done screwing around lets do it right the first time.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:23 PM   #73
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that's the right attitude.

now it's time for some fun!
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Old 09-06-2010, 08:40 PM   #74
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May I ask why your bailing on the 2.7l all together?
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:31 PM   #75
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May I ask why your bailing on the 2.7l all together?
Right now I have an opertunity to build the engine for the use I really intended it to be for. Drag racing, bla bla bla save your should have bought a mustang ect ect. Not directed at you but the nay sayers. I talked with Dom and we decided that his engine design fits with exactly what I want. I dont think the 2.7L is bad its just used for a different purpose than I started for. Originally I was all about doing some scca racing but due to the tracks being far away and a dragstrip very close to me and that I come from domestics it is a better fit FOR ME. I love my car and its hard for me to let it go and start a new platform (plus my wife will cut my nuts off if I start a new "project"). I have decided that I will sell the 83mm stroker crank (just needs to be ground .25mm/.25mm) and anything else I can salvage. I will keep the heads I have a few feelers on how I will be repairing them. I will also be doing a cam design that Dom suggested to again fit my application.

Thanks to all those that have shown sympathy, the original short block assembler has been in contact and they are so far willing to help with the exspenses to go this other route. Again why I never listed thier info but the results are time will only tell. BTW I will not be using them again as Dom has a much better grasp on my goals and has proven himself to be a better source.
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