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Old 02-09-2012, 08:31 AM   #1
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Default Nervous about my 12 STi order

So I ordered the car on monday and I was all excited..This is my first subaru and I always thought the STi was solid never really read about them much..but after reading all this ringland issues and the hesitation problems..I am kinda nervous about it.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:38 AM   #2
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So I ordered the car on monday and I was all excited..This is my first subaru and I always thought the STi was solid never really read about them much..but after reading all this ringland issues and the hesitation problems..I am kinda nervous about it.
I wouldn't worry about it. The percentage of people who have problems is actually very small, it just gets blown way out of proportion on this site. Besides, you have a warranty, just keep the car stock, or close to it, for a while and anything that goes wrong will be fixed by subaru.

I'm convinced a lot of these blown motors are from people being stupid with their cars, not all of them, but a lot of them. My experience with subaru's has always been that if you treat your car well, it'll treat you well, hasn't failed me yet.

Granted, the 08 STi I picked up did suffer from a blown ringland, but I went for it anyway and I picked it up with 3,500 miles on the new motor. Up to about 25k now, been stage 2 for most of that time, and the car runs flawlessly. Doesn't burn a drop of oil in between changes and the stuff comes out looking clean even after 6k mile intervals.

Don't let internet hype worry you, just enjoy the car, it's an amazing machine.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:45 AM   #3
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anyone ever figure it out what is the issue? I saw a bunch of people saying the stock tune is awful on the car and could cause issues..Did I read right somewhere that they use cast internals? I thought it was all forged being boosted and all and for what the car is.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:00 AM   #4
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This website will make you paranoid. Don't worry about it.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:02 AM   #5
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i had an 02 wrx with over 200k on the motor and body, i put that car through hell, weekly trips to the drag strip, many aftermarket parts, drifting, launching, rallying. name it and ive done it on that car. i sold it with 208k and the compression on every cylinder was 155 and the only problem the car started to get was 4th gear starting to grind at higher rpms... there is really no reason to be nervous about buying a new subaru, you should be excited
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:11 AM   #6
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So I ordered the car on monday and I was all excited..This is my first subaru and I always thought the STi was solid never really read about them much..but after reading all this ringland issues and the hesitation problems..I am kinda nervous about it.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:18 AM   #7
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84k on my 08, with a proper tune from the get-go it runs like new today.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:20 AM   #8
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id like to put a tune on it when I get it but I am just worried that if it goes boom might have some issues at dealer.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:23 AM   #9
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Drive it for a while. Go to a driving school. Get a little track time, then decide if you want a tune. Don't just do it because someone says you should.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:27 AM   #10
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id like to put a tune on it when I get it but I am just worried that if it goes boom might have some issues at dealer.
You can go round on round on this, to me I see it like this:

- You don't put a tune on it, you drive it hard, the factory tune isn't 'the greatest' so you may end up damaging or hurting the motor - they warranty it.

- You put a tune on it, you are able to drive it as it is meant to be driven, and don't have any lean conditions which the factory tune does, so you end up not needing a new motor under warranty.

The warranty is only voided if the failure can be directly linked to a modification done to the car. I've had an accessport on my car since it had 400 miles on it, because I knew the factory tune (especially for the 08's) was horrible. Fast forward to today, and I have 84k on my car and it runs like new. I still have, and use my 100k warranty. For instance I am taking it in on Monday to get my power steering pump replaced because it's gotten really noisy. Other than that I've used it one other time for the A/C Compressor.

All of this said, if you drive the car poorly, mods or no mods, you can break it and then they will blame your mods. My driving style is as follows:

Never launch the car
Never bang the rev-limiter, I shift at around 6k which is where power drops off anyway.
Always rev match your downshifts.
Put quality gas in, every time. I recommend Chevron

84k now and I'm confident I'll get another 100k out of the engine. My car is currently at Stage 2+, protuned by Cobb up in Plano Texas.

It all comes down to the tune with these cars man, spend a bit extra and get a reputable shop to protune your car and sleep easy at night unless you drive like an angry teenager. Then all bets are off...

Now the 2012 'factory' tune is a bit better than the 08's were, but I still read that it gets lean on the highend, so I personally would still do a stage 1 tune on it if I were buying one today.

Good luck with your decision, hope this helps.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:40 AM   #11
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i guess after i do the break in period I might think about a stage 1 just to smooth it out and make it safer from what i gather. Dont understand the comment go get some track time before deciding on a tune. I have no intentions of ever racing the car at a track straight or twisty. Didnt know someone needs to be a race car driver to want to mod and tinker.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:51 AM   #12
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2010 sti se with just under 15K miles. Stage 2 since a little over 1000 miles. Zero problems.

I have noticed a few rock chips on the wheels, which I find to be a bit unacceptable. You would think that would have harder or thicker? paint, but they dont. No not curb rash, straight up rock chips
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:51 AM   #13
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I'm sure the track reference was made because that is the best place to really get a feeling for the car and how it is going to behave while driving aggressevily.

Keep in mind that ANY conversation on this board concerning aggressive/reckless driving on the street is very very frowned upon, WILL get a thread locked and might get ya sonme points or a talking to so any reference to really pushing the car will probally mention the track.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:56 AM   #14
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This website will make you paranoid. Don't worry about it.
Actually those who are "made" paranoid by this forum were already paranoid to begin with.
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:03 AM   #15
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Actually those who are "made" paranoid by this forum were already paranoid to begin with.
Yeah, just like the people who will pay attention to a few negative posts in a sea of positive ones. They will see what they want to see.
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:05 AM   #16
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I am just wanting to make myself feel sure that my $35,000 isnt gonna be a paper weight..Who ever said anything about racing either?
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:12 AM   #17
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I think the only STi year that pretty much required an aftermarket tune was the 08, possibly 09's. Those tunes were horrible from the factory.

In your case, you need to decide if you are going to drive in a spirited manner, then I would suggest tuning it to get peace of mind and the performance you expect from the car.

If this is more of a grocery getter / commuter and you don't see yourself rowing the gears and enjoying spirited driving, then don't bother with the tune.

Hope this helps.

I don't fathom buying this kind of car if you aren't going to run it however, so a tune was mandatory for me after I did the appropriate research. Now after 84k trouble free miles, I have never regretted the decision and my dealership has never given me flak about my mods.
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:14 AM   #18
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I am glad that I saw this thread. I am really conflicted about going Stage 1 on my new STi, but the stock map is really really bad. The one thing my dealer did tell me is that they are much more open to fixing issues if I am up front with them about what I did. They know that the stock tune is not the best, and that going with a Cobb AP fixes a whole lot of problems.

I have a feeling that I will not be able to wait until the factory warranty is out before going stage 1. It is only a matter of time.

Oh - and don't be nervous. Your first drive home in your new STi will put all of this out of your mind. I hit my 1000 mile mark a couple of days ago, and I can't get enough time to drive now. I need excuses to get in my car
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:17 AM   #19
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I will probably drive it with a little fun once in a while..nothing really all that much. I just like to tinker and cruise around..just like my current 2010 mustang GT i am trading in for the STi..I have a bunch of stuff done to it and its a garage queen and I just cruise it around on nice days and sometimes give it a little spirited driving to enjoy it.
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:34 AM   #20
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I came from a 2004 Cobra, love the STi a million times more. Enjoy whatever you decide, but sounds like you'll do some tuning before long. Hit me up if you need an assist, and post pictures when you get it.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:09 AM   #21
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just keep in mind a subaru is pretty much the most ideal car you can get, great in the snow, awd, nice daily driver, comfortable, roomy, awesome for the track, reliable, great for modding, look amazing and best of all they hold their value
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:11 AM   #22
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If it helps fight against the paranoia that this site feeds off of, my 2011 STI has almost 30,000 miles on it and I have had no issues at all. I did get mine with a lifetime powertrain warranty so I'm too worried about it but just like they said, it's such a small percentage that have this issue. People complain more than they talk good about products.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:48 AM   #23
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Another story to ease your mind, Doobis. My STi has about 6500 miles on it. I've been stage 1 since about 1500 miles with no issues. I enjoy each and every time I drive the car. Best car I've ever owned.

Congrats on your purchase. Enjoy!
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:53 AM   #24
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I hope the car comes in faster then they said with the 8-12weeks. I am already antsy in my pants and I just ordered it monday
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:13 PM   #25
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I think 8-12 weeks is the standard answer they give. You have to think it has to come by boat from Japan to California through a ton of inspections then to your dealer.
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