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Old 05-19-2010, 04:08 AM   #1
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Default New to Legacys, had some general questions

So recently the bug has got me, im really liking the BD legacy platform for many reasons witch i would bore you but to the point, i want one.


ive got a 00 2.5rs now, and absolutely love it, best car ive ever owned.


and i plan on trading it for a 95-99 LGT


so questions:

1. part compatibility? i know on my rs the wrx exhuast fit with little modification, is it still about the same with these? same with like struts and sway bars, would other stuff fit? i know i would want to put a LSD rear end in.


2. reliability. i hear replace the head gaskets left and right. so is that the only issue with these cars? anything else that would need attention?


3: aftermarket: how much stuff is out there for these cars. i dont want to race it, its just a nice daily, but i like a well tuned car ( ie bushings, some quality shocks and sway bar, etc)


thats all i can think of now.. thanks for your input.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:04 AM   #2
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y trade?

2. head gaskets are the main issue, but is easily solved. a subaru is a subaru. they last forever if u take care if them.

1+3. Some parts fit. others don't. can u be more specific as to which u want to do and/or which would be on ur list to 1st. i can better tell u if u can be a little more specific.
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:39 PM   #3
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well my reasoning for trade, ive got a coupe RS, witch is nice but getting people/stuff in the back is a pain. and i ride bmx and carry a lot of other things around from time to time, so having a large backseat would be nice. the other big thing is anything RS is expensive and hard to find. this past week i needed a window motor. any other 89-00 subaru, 90 bucks and they had it at kragen. rs? 250 and special order. and everything is that way, there just so much more of a headache. i love the car but its my daily that covers a lot of mileage and wears out.

ok so just head gaskets then. no biggie.

the parts im looking at doing:

does the wrx/sti axle back fit? becuase ive got a hand made muffler a friend gave to me that is special and id like to keep.

bushing sets?

how good are the brakes? and are they interchangeable with the wrx?

i hear there is a bilstien equipped japanese version, are those struts/springs hard to find? or is it just easier to go aftermarket?

Thanks for your help

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Old 05-19-2010, 02:04 PM   #4
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Parts shouldn't be an issue on either the GC8 or a 2nd gen Legacy. Every time I go to the junkyard there are both Imprezas and Legacies to pick on. Though lately there are an increasing number of Legacies, interestingly enough.
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:16 PM   #5
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ok so just head gaskets then. no biggie.

the parts im looking at doing:

does the wrx/sti axle back fit? becuase ive got a hand made muffler a friend gave to me that is special and id like to keep.

bushing sets?

how good are the brakes? and are they interchangeable with the wrx?

i hear there is a bilstien equipped japanese version, are those struts/springs hard to find? or is it just easier to go aftermarket?

Thanks for your help
does the wrx/sti axle back fit? NOPE, not without modification, legacy's slightly "longer".

how good are the brakes? Pretty good, upgrade pads and braided stainles lines.

and are they interchangeable with the wrx? yeah, just need different brackets, can go 4-pot with wheels that'll clear 'em, many upgrade rears too H6/Outback? which are larger.

i hear there is a bilstien equipped japanese version, are those struts/springs hard to find? Hard to source, and more often than not would need rebuild

or is it just easier to go aftermarket? Easier, better, and more cost effective IMHO... go Whiteline w/ KYB, Coilovers, or similar... need to be Legacy Specific or you'll get weird ride height "high nose" scenarios. get sti strut top mounts.

or just buy my car and you'll be set!
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:06 PM   #6
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well i think my mind is made up..

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does the wrx/sti axle back fit? NOPE, not without modification, legacy's slightly "longer". well ill just modify mine to fit

how good are the brakes? Pretty good, upgrade pads and braided stainles lines.
and are they interchangeable with the wrx? yeah, just need different brackets, can go 4-pot with wheels that'll clear 'em, many upgrade rears too H6/Outback? which are larger. ok cool, id probably just do the wrx upgrade for the front and the h6 rear.

i hear there is a bilstien equipped japanese version, are those struts/springs hard to find? Hard to source, and more often than not would need rebuild
or is it just easier to go aftermarket? Easier, better, and more cost effective IMHO... go Whiteline w/ KYB, Coilovers, or similar... need to be Legacy Specific or you'll get weird ride height "high nose" scenarios. get sti strut top mounts.
id want to get good struts, no need for adjustable. so koni shocks with some high quality springs, either sti springs ( if they would fit)


or just buy my car and you'll be set!

sure, let me sell my RS first lol
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:30 AM   #7
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snowone... i am not sure Borla made an equal-length header. they make unequal though.
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Old 05-20-2010, 12:00 PM   #8
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So questions:

1. Part compatibility? I know on my RS the WRX exhaust fit with little modification, is it still about the same with these? Same with like struts and sway bars, would other stuff fit? I know I would want to put a LSD rear end in. Understand that your 2000 Impreza RS is basically a lighter weight Legacy GT with a shortened wheelbase. Many parts will fit both cars, or can be modified to sort of fit. You can swap struts, springs and sway bar end-links between your RS and a 2nd gen GT with out modifications.


2. Reliability. I hear replace the head gaskets left and right. Is that the only issue with these cars? Anything else that would need attention? While the newer designed head gaskets have certainly improved reliability a great deal, there is good reason for the redesigned engine block on the Phase II EJ25 SOHC motor used in your 00 RS. The Phase I motors have issues with "piston slap" and in some rare cases cracks in the engine block. Both the EJ22 and the newer Phase II EJ25 motors are far more reliable, although the bulk of the issues with the Phase I EJ25 motors involve blown head gaskets.


3: Aftermarket: how much stuff is out there for these cars. I don't want to race it, its just a nice daily, but i like a well tuned car (ie bushings, some quality shocks and sway bar, etc).For what ever reasons the early Legacy GTs never really caught on with the mass market tuner marketplace. Few vendors produced stuff specifically for the Legacy and many of these vendors have discontinued their early Legacy GT products. "WhiteLine" from Australia is a leading vendor of Legacy (Liberty in Australia) bushings, springs and anti-sway bars, although Perrin, H&R and Eibach did at one time produce products for the Legacy. Subaru's in house SPT product line also resold many other vendors products (such as Bosal stainless steel exhausts)... some dealerships may still have some SPT parts in inventory.

Thats all i can think of now.. thanks for your input.
If you are planning on replacing springs, struts, and various bushings you just might want to consider purchasing an older Outback station wagon. There are many more of these than Legacy GTs, and after you replace the suspension, springs and bushings with Legacy GT parts (and larger wheels / tyres) you will be left with what is essentially a Legacy GT wagon anyways. The Outbacks already came stock with extra large Anti-sway bars so it might prove cheaper to purchase an Outback, and then lower it with Legacy GT suspension parts than to purchase a Legacy GT.
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Old 05-21-2010, 12:33 AM   #9
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thanks for the input jonathan


if i was going to go the wagon route, id go outback sport, but i just love the look of the legacy and it fits my needs. so it seems that just aftermarket companies HAD stuff but no longer carry them..
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Old 05-21-2010, 12:38 AM   #10
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oh and another question, how hard is it to convert an auto to a manual, like is the clutch cyl hole already cut in the firewall
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check out - bbs.legacycentral.org

You will be surprised with what you can do to a Legacy, especially older ones that you speak of. Subaru's are like lego's..MY 90-07. There are a lot of things that will fit, some not always bolt up, but they can with minimal modification.
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oh and another question, how hard is it to convert an auto to a manual, like is the clutch cylinder hole already cut in the firewall
Its not a trivial conversion. You will need a manual transmission, drive shaft, and rear differential (along with a pedal box, and a clutch master).

I believe, but am not completely sure, that the clutch master mounting points are indeed on the firewall.

Its been done by other posters on the board.. but not by me. I think fastnova (Aaron) along with a few others might have done such a conversion.
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i mean ive done crazy swaps, my next project is a 4.0l v8 in a ae86 corolla, so no issues there, but id just like it to be painless
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