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Old 08-23-2011, 03:14 AM   #1
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Default Alfa Romeo Club Lapping day @ Pacific Raceways Sept. 15

I just signed up for the lapping day with the Alfa Romeo Club on Sept 15th @ Pacific Raceways.

Anyone else planning on going or want to go?

Cost is $240 if you already have a membership or $300 if you don't already have one.

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Old 08-23-2011, 11:13 AM   #2
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Going out with them again at PIR in October. However, after this time I will no longer drive with AROO club. They do not follow parameters that allows for buying track insurance.

A lapping day is just a lapping day but 130mph is still 130mph.
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:48 AM   #3
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I did 2 Evening lapping days with them this year. The first one in my LGT and the second one in my Golf TDI. I enjoyed the 2nd session more b/c my instructor was less restrictive. I noticed that the AROC's line is slightly different from Proformance Racing School's line. I like AROC's line better b/c it seems to be a little more aggressive.

I don't I will be able to make the Sep lapping day unless I get some new brake pads first.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:21 PM   #4
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I did 2 Evening lapping days with them this year. The first one in my LGT and the second one in my Golf TDI. I enjoyed the 2nd session more b/c my instructor was less restrictive. I noticed that the AROC's line is slightly different from Proformance Racing School's line. I like AROC's line better b/c it seems to be a little more aggressive.

I don't I will be able to make the Sep lapping day unless I get some new brake pads first.

How was your instructor restrictive?
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Old 08-23-2011, 01:30 PM   #5
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Remember, "instructors."

I was out with Cascade in the spring and someone put there nice 35r STi into the back straight wall at PIR with an instructor in the car with them. Yes, these people often have tons of experience, etc., but they don't know the dynamics of every car out there and as a driver you still need to make good decisions on the track and to deeply prepare your vehicle.

For instance, on the back straight a PIR I often will wait to pass until the front straight unless I have a really good jump coming into the back-side, esp. in the wet. Good decisions are key.
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Old 08-23-2011, 01:43 PM   #6
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Remember, "instructors."

I was out with Cascade in the spring and someone put there nice 35r STi into the back straight wall at PIR with an instructor in the car with them. Yes, these people often have tons of experience, etc., but they don't know the dynamics of every car out there and as a driver you still need to make good decisions on the track and to deeply prepare your vehicle.

For instance, on the back straight a PIR I often will wait to pass until the front straight unless I have a really good jump coming into the back-side, esp. in the wet. Good decisions are key.
I completely agree that being safe is most important.

When I went to the Pro Drive school at PIR my instructor was just helping me with my line and technique, not so much how far to push my car. I felt I was pretty good at finding the safe limit back then, but I just need to be careful this time since I have more power than last time.

I am looking to get a new set of pads and possibly rotors as well as a full brake system flush with some new fluid. I have new wheels and tires too.
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:54 PM   #7
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How was your instructor restrictive?
I went to check out NWARC lapping day b/c it was cheaper and also I wanted to test out my coilovers installed last Feb and the new R-compound tires I have on the car. When I signed up, I wrote down that I had been to Pacific Raceways for 2 full days and 2 half days of lapping, did a one day HDPE at PIR, and driven a Chump Car race car at PIR for a cumulative of approx 7.5 hrs. Basically, I am familiar with driving on the track.

I was assigned an instructor which I didn't mind since I was new to the club. I have driven solo a couple times at PR when I lapped with Proformance Racing School. My instructor has a Porsche and I suspect has no knowledge of the capabilities of a modded Subaru LGT. I have to admit that the LGT makes me a better driver than I am. I also believe that if you keep driving a perfect line with no mistakes, you are not learning or driving fast enough. Learning comes from correcting your mistakes. I am not saying you should drive beyond your own or your car's capabilities.

My instructor didn't want me to go too fast or get on the gas too soon during the turns. My car will understeer a tiny bit and then get settled. Nothing to be alarm with. He was just a Nervous Nelly. He told me if I were driving a FWD or RWD car, I would have ended up in the weeds. I had to prove him wrong.

So I took my Golf TDI the next time and I was assigned an instructor who raced Integras / RSX. She was absolutely delighted when I caught up with the Porsches after I had let them by in the straights. The stock TDI had a great workout and I had a blast driving it even tho it has much less hp. The enormous amount of torque helped carried me through the turns. Never once did she ask me to slow down. I was progressively braking later and harder, carrying more speed in the turns with the tires squealing for mercy through those turns. I could tell she understood FWD cars and their limits. More importantly, she could tell that I was in control of the car. She gave some good tips after each session rather than the first instructor who simply nagged at me after every turn about how I didn't drive 'the perfect line'.
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Old 08-23-2011, 10:47 PM   #8
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I can't make the Sept 15th day, but does anyone have more info on the evening sessions they run? Are there any in September?
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:25 PM   #9
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When I went to the Pro Drive school at PIR my instructor was just helping me with my line and technique, not so much how far to push my car.

Who did you have at ProDrive?
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Old 08-24-2011, 03:07 AM   #10
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I went to check out NWARC lapping day b/c it was cheaper and also I wanted to test out my coilovers installed last Feb and the new R-compound tires I have on the car. When I signed up, I wrote down that I had been to Pacific Raceways for 2 full days and 2 half days of lapping, did a one day HDPE at PIR, and driven a Chump Car race car at PIR for a cumulative of approx 7.5 hrs. Basically, I am familiar with driving on the track.

I was assigned an instructor which I didn't mind since I was new to the club. I have driven solo a couple times at PR when I lapped with Proformance Racing School. My instructor has a Porsche and I suspect has no knowledge of the capabilities of a modded Subaru LGT. I have to admit that the LGT makes me a better driver than I am. I also believe that if you keep driving a perfect line with no mistakes, you are not learning or driving fast enough. Learning comes from correcting your mistakes. I am not saying you should drive beyond your own or your car's capabilities.

My instructor didn't want me to go too fast or get on the gas too soon during the turns. My car will understeer a tiny bit and then get settled. Nothing to be alarm with. He was just a Nervous Nelly. He told me if I were driving a FWD or RWD car, I would have ended up in the weeds. I had to prove him wrong.

So I took my Golf TDI the next time and I was assigned an instructor who raced Integras / RSX. She was absolutely delighted when I caught up with the Porsches after I had let them by in the straights. The stock TDI had a great workout and I had a blast driving it even tho it has much less hp. The enormous amount of torque helped carried me through the turns. Never once did she ask me to slow down. I was progressively braking later and harder, carrying more speed in the turns with the tires squealing for mercy through those turns. I could tell she understood FWD cars and their limits. More importantly, she could tell that I was in control of the car. She gave some good tips after each session rather than the first instructor who simply nagged at me after every turn about how I didn't drive 'the perfect line'.
Thank you for the reply, hopefully I get someone who helps safely guide me to the limits of my car and doesn't just nag me. Though I have much less track/racing experience than you do so anything helps

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Who did you have at ProDrive?
He was an older guy, i think he had white hair, I don't remember his name though.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:14 AM   #11
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I felt I was pretty good at finding the safe limit back then, but I just need to be careful this time since I have more power than last time.

I am looking to get a new set of pads and possibly rotors as well as a full brake system flush with some new fluid. I have new wheels and tires too.

That is what I am talking about. Wish more people had a smart attitude about driving like this. Have a great time!
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:26 AM   #12
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I'll probably be at this event. I'll be in the intermediate group if I'm there..

there were almost no subarus at the last Alfa lapping session.. definitely need to see a few more there.
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:35 AM   #13
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I'll probably be at this event. I'll be in the intermediate group if I'm there..

there were almost no subarus at the last Alfa lapping session.. definitely need to see a few more there.
If you go, don't be afraid to introduce yourself haha I drive a silver bugeye and will probably be in the beginner group
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:12 AM   #14
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Bump, this is next thursday! Anyone else planning on going?
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:10 AM   #15
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So which clubs require HPDE and which ones do not? I would like to take the PR HPDE but the summer has gotten away from me and there are limited dates. It would be nice if a club offered HPDE that carries over to other lapping days (maybe there is?).
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