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Old 05-24-2010, 03:27 PM   #1
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Default Cobb accessport, is it worth it?

Quick question, So is it a good idea to buy a cobb accessport even if you plan on taking it somewhere to get tuned? Do the tuners use the cobb ap to tune it? I know they can also email you a certain map for the mods on your car so what im seeing is buying the cobb accessport is basicly a win win situation. BUT if not let me know, as i dont want to spend almost 600 bucks if i dont have to lol thanks!
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Old 05-24-2010, 03:54 PM   #2
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Yes it is... Especially if you change maps often, like if you have a 93 octane tune, but can only find 91 where you went for the weekend. And also use the features like data-logging, LC & FF shifting...
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Old 09-22-2011, 04:51 AM   #3
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just got an email from , mmm ranked 4th on search engine when type sti performance

Hi, thank you for writing us. The AccessPORT would be the best engine management system to use. It will allow you to have the car tuned specifically for what you want, or you can use the online programs from Cobb.

We do not have base programs for the AccessPORT. All our tuning is for specific cars and upgrades. You will need to use a base map from Cobb’s website to start with.

Hope this helps. When you decide to order, you can use our online order form, or give us a call.

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Old 09-22-2011, 09:36 AM   #4
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I love mine, not only does it add substantial power, but on my 6000 mile 6 week road trip I was able to get low 30's consistently in fuel economy mode.
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:44 AM   #5
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Wish I had one...Im stuck with a stupid Ecutek.
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:35 AM   #6
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You could always go Opensource and use a laptop and a tactrix cable. If you already have a laptop the cable is only $160...a lot less than an AP. I had a Cobb AP but only used it twice to tune. With open source I don't use it everyday, but I have a laptop to use in the mean time.

Maybe someone can post up the things the access port can do that opensource cant or vice versa....I can't think of much.
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:49 AM   #7
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There's definitely a lot of debate on going Open Source or Cobb. Personally, I'm still stuck on Cobb. That being said, I think Cobb is probably the better way to go for beginners which it sounds like you are (as I am too). The Cobb is very user friendly and easy to use. It's basically plug and play and the device is the size of a deck of cards as opposed to toting a laptop around.

Also, the OTS (Off The Shelf) maps that Cobb has are pretty decent. You will get instant power gains on a bone stock car using Stage 1. As you upgrade, you simply go up in stages. Either that or take your car to any legitimate Subaru tuner and they'll do a pro-tune custom for your car and mods (I probably wouldn't recommend it until you get past Stage 2 cuz it's usually like $500 or so).

Lastly, the Cobb also has additional maps that can be uploaded at any time within seconds:
- There's Valet Mode (for valet parking or if dropping the car off with a shop or friend) which won't let the engine rev above a certain limit (I think it's 3500 RPM or something like that).
- Anti-Theft Mode (great for long term parking at an airport or whatever). Basically the car won't start until you plug the Cobb back in and reflash.
- Fuel Saver Mode. Cuts boost and other parameters to conserve fuel (good for long road trips).

Personally I have a custom e-tune on my car now. That's another option. It's similar to the idea of a pro-tune but without the dyno and price tag. Most e-tuners will give you a custom map for about $70 - $200 depending.

This is my first Subie. Maybe once I've learned a lot more about all the tuning stuff, I'll go Open Source. For the time being, however, I'm perfectly happy with the Cobb. Also, check for a used one. You can save $200 or more by finding one used and since it's electronic, it's not like it's a wearable part. Just make sure you trust the seller and that it is unmarried!

C/N: Cobb AP is awesome, FTW!
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:47 PM   #8
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it will only be better once the SD comes out, until then there is no reason to spend 500-600 on a OTS map when you can go get tuned for 200-400 and your car will be faster and the tune will specifically for your car!
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:22 PM   #9
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it will only be better once the SD comes out, until then there is no reason to spend 500-600 on a OTS map when you can go get tuned for 200-400 and your car will be faster and the tune will specifically for your car!
I agree, SD is going to change things for a lot of people.
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:30 PM   #10
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What is "SD"? I've never heard of it.
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:46 PM   #11
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What is "SD"? I've never heard of it.
Speed Density
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:11 PM   #12
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Wow still getting replies, Thanks guys! Looking back on it now I wish I would have of just went open source but I ended up getting a accessport. They are really good for people new to the tuner community though, very user friendly and easy to add/remove maps.
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:29 PM   #13
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The Cobb AP is a great mod for any level of subie owner. Like others have said the OTS maps are pretty good for lightly modded cars. You do need to follow the map notes very closely, if your looking for reliability. I wouldnt hold your breath on those speed density add-ons either. Ive been waiting forever for the knock sensitivity parameters to be added. Overall its a great logging tool and makes flashing maps very simple.
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Old 09-23-2011, 10:43 PM   #14
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I am the "beginner" as far as the tuning arena. I really like the flexibility of changing maps, watching many areas of performance real time and data log to ensure my subie is healthy.
I found an OTS tune that works well with my 2010 STi. The AP maps versus the factory tune are like comparing night and day. My STi runs 100 percent better with the AP tune. Seems like a lot of money at first but once you start using the AP you will know it was money well spent.
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Old 09-24-2011, 12:21 AM   #15
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The AP can also identify and clear check engine lights, that is a very nice feature.
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:19 PM   #16
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110% yes, worth it! It makes modifying and tuning painless. The ability to diagnose, clear codes, and read engine vitals in real-time is killer.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:31 PM   #17
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Open source all day.
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Old 10-02-2011, 07:13 PM   #18
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Open source for me too. I bought an AP for my 2005 WRX and it was nice, but open source definitely seemed like a better option this time around. Who really changes their map on the fly that much anyways? I laugh at the people that spent 600 on an AP and another 100 on the maps from TP when they could have spent 250-275 total to get the exact same thing.
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:39 PM   #19
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Debating this myself... I dont need "max power", just a reliable stage 2 tune. I love to be a DIY'er, and id enjoy it i think. Then again it gets involved w/ wideband and all, and im a bit nervous about messing up no matter how much i read
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:49 PM   #20
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Cant wait to get my accessport this week. ! My current tune:

Stock 08 Sti ,20 mpg , 60 mp day.



got beat up recently by cadillac cts, suv tahoo,vw gti (full race),infinity g35 (full race). Ha ha

*full race : exhaust an tuned and some internal mod.


Upcoming upgrade : 850 injector , cobb cat back, injen cai, carbon hood, e85 migration,header and Spark plugs.

I will update my accessport tune report.
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