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Old 06-10-2002, 03:46 PM   #1
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Hello all. The significant other and I are going to be needing a new vehicle within the next year. We're a one car household so we need to find a vehicle we can both agree upon. We need something practical (i.e. 4 doors w/ decent cargo space) but we (read: I ) need something that's fun to drive too. My GF hates MT's though so no matter what we get, it's going to be a slush box, there's just no getting around that - ugh! We live just north of Toronto and travel about 100km's (mostly highway) a day so 4WD or AWD and decent mileage #'s are required as well.
Even though we're still in the most preliminary stages, I think the requirement of us finding something we can both agree upon is going to be the toughest hurdle. She's thinking CRV, Rav4, Xterra, etc..., and I'm thinking WRX wagon, WRX wagon, and WRX wagon.
So, before I begin the arduous task of convincing her (and our loan officer) that $40,000 Canadian isn't all that much, I need to ask a whole slew of questions of you fine people:
1. I'm a Honda guy. 3-400,000km Hondas are a dime a dozen. I have questions as to how a factory turboed car like the WRX would fair over the really long haul. We would be putting plenty of highway miles on the car and I'm just looking for some ballpark estimates with respect to ultimate mileage. If the car is properly maintained, how many kilometers can one reasonably expect it to last before it dies? Ballpark guys.
2. How much boost does the WRX put out stock?
3. Does it have a knock sensor?
4. What octane fuel do you need to run?
5. Does the car have (or for that matter need ) a turbo timer?
6. Just how bad are the AT's? From a performance standpoint I know 5-speed's the way to go but it just ain't happening. So what I need to know is just how much does the AT sap out of the car all else being equal? What's a AT WRX do in the 1/4 for example? If it's really abysmal I'm wondering if I shouldn't be considering an 2.5 Outback Sport Impreza instead and save $10K.
Thanks in advance everyone!
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Old 06-10-2002, 03:55 PM   #2
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1. I'm a Honda guy to. Subarus in general have a great rep. for longevity - even turbos. Previous generation non-North American WRX models (or Impreza Turbo, or whatever they happened to be called a particular year & country) also have a good rep. I think. Too early to tell w/ new NA model.

2. 13.7 psi, but less in 1st and 2nd. Don't remember those #s. Do a search.

3. Yes

4. 91+, but will take 87 in a pinch (according to manual)

5. Has, no. Needs? Officially no. Opinions vary. I just let it idle a few seconds or drive easy the last couple of miles.

6. Dude, she's your girlfriend, not your wife!
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Old 06-10-2002, 04:00 PM   #3
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Don't do it dude.

Remeber that Auto's:

1.) get worse gas mileage
2.) Suck power
3.) Cost more to buy
4.) Cost more to maintain
5.) Break more

Get a stick, and teach her how to drive it
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Old 06-10-2002, 04:27 PM   #4
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Originally posted by WRXsoontobe
Don't do it dude.

Remeber that Auto's:

1.) get worse gas mileage
2.) Suck power
3.) Cost more to buy
4.) Cost more to maintain
5.) Break more

Get a stick, and teach her how to drive it
Well, no one said she couldn't DRIVE stick, he said she hated to drive stick.

That said, unless she's paying for half, I have to agree, she's your girlfriend, not your wife!

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Old 06-10-2002, 04:53 PM   #5
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Yep, she knows how. Hell, she'd better; I taught her! And ya, gf for now but she'll be my wife someday. And yes, she will be paying for half. Trust me guys I'm destined for a slushbox. Don't shed too many tears for me though. I've still got a weekend plaything called a CRX so all is not lost necessarily.
Truth be told though I think an auto for our next car makes sense. Maybe it's the WRX that doesn't make sense for us though. We're going to be having kids so a minivan would probably to the smartest buy but there's no way I'd ever get a minivan. I'm not crazy about the little SUV's either. I'd just rather have a car. I basically want to have my cake and eat it too in the WRX I guess.
Man I gotta find some 1/4 times for AT WRX's. They can't be THAT bad...can they? I'm going to be watching that AT/M thread closely.
Ok question
7. How does having the cylinders horizontally opposed affect piston/ring wear? I've heard that the bottom of the rings will wear out much faster on boxer engines.
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Old 06-10-2002, 05:08 PM   #6
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Given your commute and location, I would stress fuel economy, winter performance/comfort and safety, in that order.

Suggest to her that "we" trim "our" list down to vehicles that get at least 12.5/8.4 (city/highway) l/1000km fuel economy. The WRX Auto Wagon gets 12.3/8.2 according to www.subaru.ca. And anything without full-time AWD is off the table, off course. And since half the year qualifies as winter weather, it should come with heated front seats and external side mirrors (standard on the WRX in Canada). Finally, we should eliminate vehicles that haven't been shown to be safe in independent crash tests (see SoC website for ammunition). Compare the prices of the vehicles still remaining on the list and you'll be driving a WRX very soon.

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