08-10 WRX Koni's! - Page 3

par72 · 05-29-2010, 11:00 PM

Deals like this don't come around too often, If I were you I'd jump on it. Can't beat 580 SHIPPED!
I just bought some used rallitek track sways from a guy locally.
So my setup is gonna be
pro-kits
konis
rallitek track sways

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gsrcrxsi · 05-29-2010, 11:21 PM

well ive already decided on the kartboy endlinks and WL rear 22mm sway, thats 400. and i need to buy some track wheel for my CRX, another 400. allignment, etc, moving into a new house, buying furniture, bills. i just dont see it being a good idea now. ill just have to eat it and spend more for them at a later date when i can comfortably afford it. besides the stock struts are going ok for now.

tuskenraider · 05-30-2010, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binaryterror

So the Koni's being sold are just inserts?

Do they include any sort of adjustment (rear saggy ass mainly because of wagon vs sedan rear weight balance)?

I haven't read about an imbalance on the 08+ models. Same suspension parts between them both unlike the previous models.

Breezio · 05-30-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tuskenraider

I haven't read about an imbalance on the 08+ models. Same suspension parts between them both unlike the previous models.

It's because they have the exact same suspension that there can be a 'problem' because the weight bias is slightly different between the two I'm pretty sure. Which I'm guessin is why I hear some people say the hatches handle slightly better.

tuskenraider · 05-30-2010, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breezio

It's because they have the exact same suspension that there can be a 'problem' because the weight bias is slightly different between the two I'm pretty sure. Which I'm guessin is why I hear some people say the hatches handle slightly better.

No, the bias is the same.....57/43. Weight is basically the same as well with same options so I see no reason the hatch would be a better handler. If anything, the higher carried weight of the hatch would give it a higher center of gravity which is a negative.

Breezio · 05-30-2010, 05:22 PM

Indeed if that's the case.

Has anyone put equally equiped sedans and hatches on a scale to measure the actual poundage axle weight.

I would be VERY supprised if they were the same.

SwiftStorm · 05-30-2010, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuskenraider

No, the bias is the same.....57/43. Weight is basically the same as well with same options so I see no reason the hatch would be a better handler. If anything, the higher carried weight of the hatch would give it a higher center of gravity which is a negative.

Search for "polar moment of inertia": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_...010-present.29

You can follow the footnote link to discover the following:

Quote:

Subaru has been getting its butt kicked in WRC rallying of late, losing out most often to hatchbacks from Ford and Citröen. Petter Solberg, Subaru's WRC rally ace, convinced the brass at Fuji Heavy Industries that a five-door hatch was the way to go this time, citing aerodynamic benefits and "better handling."

In fact, despite sitting on the same 103.3-inch wheelbase as the new WRX sedan, the five-door's overall length is 6.5 inches less, representing a substantial reduction in polar moment of inertia, which is a big chunk of the "better handling" part of Solberg's argument.

tuskenraider · 05-31-2010, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwiftStorm

Search for "polar moment of inertia": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_...010-present.29

You can follow the footnote link to discover the following:

Interesting. I really hadn't caught the length difference, just paid attention to the wheelbase and track. Nonetheless, there isn't a saggy butt condition to worry about with 08+ models.

jeonster · 06-12-2010, 11:09 AM

any more news?

Breezio · 06-12-2010, 12:06 PM

Tirerack now has them listed.

$206 each for fronts. Listed as requiring cutting to get the OE shock insert out.
$181 each for rears.

Total: $774... ouch.

Estimated availability 10/10/10

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...055SPORT_Qty=0

PleiadesSTi · 06-13-2010, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breezio

Tirerack now has them listed.

$206 each for fronts. Listed as requiring cutting to get the OE shock insert out.
$181 each for rears.

Total: $774... ouch.

Estimated availability 10/10/10

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...055SPORT_Qty=0

le fail

Breezio · 06-13-2010, 03:14 AM

what part is fail?

jeonster · 06-13-2010, 09:13 AM

yea i dont get it

Breezio · 06-13-2010, 12:05 PM

I'm guessing it's because they are charging so much (IMO!). And he's getting the Bilsteins like me

Either that or I dorked the post up and haven't realized it yet.

PleiadesSTi · 06-13-2010, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breezio

I'm guessing it's because they are charging so much (IMO!). And he's getting the Bilsteins like me

Either that or I dorked the post up and haven't realized it yet.

Bingo.

par72 · 06-13-2010, 09:11 PM

LOL! you guys are funny
whos charging too much?
RCE = 1k
Koni = 774

Do the math

jeonster · 06-13-2010, 10:47 PM

I think im going to go with konis because my stock struts are sitting in the garage. And the konis seem more fun to do

btw which springs do you guys recommend?

gsrcrxsi · 06-13-2010, 11:39 PM

i do like my Epic Engineering springs. but im keeping my car to "sporty" daily driver duty. if you want to lean to more track use, might want to look at some stiffer options

PleiadesSTi · 06-14-2010, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by par72

LOL! you guys are funny
whos charging too much?
RCE = 1k
Koni = 774

Do the math

Having stock suspension intact for when rebuild time comes> hacking stock components and never being able to go back to stock= to each their own.

jeonster · 06-14-2010, 12:14 AM

True but I doubt I'll be keeping my car for that long to have the koni's rebuilt.
It's just money....lol

greenc51 · 06-14-2010, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsrcrxsi

i do like my Epic Engineering springs. but im keeping my car to "sporty" daily driver duty. if you want to lean to more track use, might want to look at some stiffer options

what stiffer options do we have??

par72 · 06-14-2010, 12:28 AM

i agree, to each their own.
ive experienced both before on my old 95 M3, Koni please!

par72 · 06-14-2010, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenc51

what stiffer options do we have??

look into ground control coilover sleeves, you can pick your spring rates and be able to adjust a little ride height.

greenc51 · 06-14-2010, 12:43 AM

bleh. i'll pass on ground controls. i been there did that when i was in the honda scene

par72 · 06-14-2010, 12:56 AM

what are your goals? street or track? theres nothing wrong with GC/Koni, their track records speaks for themselves.

have you done any suspension mods yet?

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05-29-2010, 11:00 PM	#51
par72 Scooby Newbie Member#: 217987 Join Date: Jul 2009 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Tigard, OR Vehicle: 2009 WRX Satin Pearl White	Deals like this don't come around too often, If I were you I'd jump on it. Can't beat 580 SHIPPED! I just bought some used rallitek track sways from a guy locally. So my setup is gonna be pro-kits konis rallitek track sways * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

05-29-2010, 11:21 PM	#52
gsrcrxsi Scooby Specialist Member#: 236952 Join Date: Jan 2010 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Baltimore Vehicle: 2010 WRX Spark Silver	well ive already decided on the kartboy endlinks and WL rear 22mm sway, thats 400. and i need to buy some track wheel for my CRX, another 400. allignment, etc, moving into a new house, buying furniture, bills. i just dont see it being a good idea now. ill just have to eat it and spend more for them at a later date when i can comfortably afford it. besides the stock struts are going ok for now.

05-30-2010, 05:22 PM	#56
Breezio Scooby Specialist Member#: 234357 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Forest Grove, OR Vehicle: 2009 WRX Sportwagen zum einbauen!	Indeed if that's the case. Has anyone put equally equiped sedans and hatches on a scale to measure the actual poundage axle weight. I would be VERY supprised if they were the same.

06-12-2010, 11:09 AM	#59
jeonster Scooby Newbie Member#: 198854 Join Date: Dec 2008 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Hartford, CT Vehicle: 2013 WRX Silver	any more news?

06-12-2010, 12:06 PM	#60
Breezio Scooby Specialist Member#: 234357 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Forest Grove, OR Vehicle: 2009 WRX Sportwagen zum einbauen!	Tirerack now has them listed. $206 each for fronts. Listed as requiring cutting to get the OE shock insert out. $181 each for rears. Total: $774... ouch. Estimated availability 10/10/10 http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...055SPORT_Qty=0

06-13-2010, 03:14 AM	#62
Breezio Scooby Specialist Member#: 234357 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Forest Grove, OR Vehicle: 2009 WRX Sportwagen zum einbauen!	what part is fail?

06-13-2010, 09:13 AM	#63
jeonster Scooby Newbie Member#: 198854 Join Date: Dec 2008 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Hartford, CT Vehicle: 2013 WRX Silver	yea i dont get it

06-13-2010, 12:05 PM	#64
Breezio Scooby Specialist Member#: 234357 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Forest Grove, OR Vehicle: 2009 WRX Sportwagen zum einbauen!	I'm guessing it's because they are charging so much (IMO!). And he's getting the Bilsteins like me Either that or I dorked the post up and haven't realized it yet.

06-13-2010, 09:11 PM	#66
par72 Scooby Newbie Member#: 217987 Join Date: Jul 2009 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Tigard, OR Vehicle: 2009 WRX Satin Pearl White	LOL! you guys are funny whos charging too much? RCE = 1k Koni = 774 Do the math

06-13-2010, 10:47 PM	#67
jeonster Scooby Newbie Member#: 198854 Join Date: Dec 2008 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Hartford, CT Vehicle: 2013 WRX Silver	I think im going to go with konis because my stock struts are sitting in the garage. And the konis seem more fun to do btw which springs do you guys recommend?

06-13-2010, 11:39 PM	#68
gsrcrxsi Scooby Specialist Member#: 236952 Join Date: Jan 2010 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Baltimore Vehicle: 2010 WRX Spark Silver	i do like my Epic Engineering springs. but im keeping my car to "sporty" daily driver duty. if you want to lean to more track use, might want to look at some stiffer options

06-14-2010, 12:14 AM	#70
jeonster Scooby Newbie Member#: 198854 Join Date: Dec 2008 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Hartford, CT Vehicle: 2013 WRX Silver	True but I doubt I'll be keeping my car for that long to have the koni's rebuilt. It's just money....lol

06-14-2010, 12:28 AM	#72
par72 Scooby Newbie Member#: 217987 Join Date: Jul 2009 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Tigard, OR Vehicle: 2009 WRX Satin Pearl White	i agree, to each their own. ive experienced both before on my old 95 M3, Koni please!

06-14-2010, 12:43 AM	#74
greenc51 Scooby Specialist Member#: 154681 Join Date: Jul 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: I hate the South, GA Vehicle: 2008 WRX - VF52'd Dark Gray Metallic	bleh. i'll pass on ground controls. i been there did that when i was in the honda scene

06-14-2010, 12:56 AM	#75
par72 Scooby Newbie Member#: 217987 Join Date: Jul 2009 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Tigard, OR Vehicle: 2009 WRX Satin Pearl White	what are your goals? street or track? theres nothing wrong with GC/Koni, their track records speaks for themselves. have you done any suspension mods yet?