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Old 06-10-2002, 11:43 PM   #1
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Default US STi to be new bodystyle?

Will the US STi be the new bodystyle or the current bug-eyed version?

It would be nice to have the hood vents again, as they look really cool and functional on the WRC car and would make the STi look more aggressive
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Old 06-11-2002, 02:23 AM   #2
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I seriously doubt they will redesign the STI when they bring it here. Especially so soon, they just realeased the New Age body style in 2001..
Basically, don't bet on it. Besides, the bug eyes are the best part
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:33 AM   #3
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GAARRGH!

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Subaru swaps sushi for souvlaki
By Peter Lyon
The Sydney Morning Herald
Friday April 12 2002

After several unsuccessful attempts to mirror European style, the Japanese maker has hired a Greek design guru.
The man who designed some of the world's best-looking cars has been hired to fix one of the world's ugliest.

Subaru has appointed Andreas Zapatinas, the former head of Alfa Romeo design, who also has worked for BMW and Pininfarina, Ferrari's preferred styling house.

His highlights include the award-winning Alfa Romeo 147 and the critically acclaimed Fiat Barchetta and later, Coupe.

The 44-year-old Greek designer moves to Japan next month and almost immediately will start work on the all-new Impreza due in 2006.

His appointment follows a sales decline of the Subaru Impreza in several key markets since the controversial goggle-eyed model was released two years ago. When the first spy photos of the second-generation Impreza appeared, Japanese car magazines were so shocked they assumed it was an elaborate hoax.


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The arival of Zapatinas coincides with a massive overhaul in Subaru's design department. The designer of the original Subaru Liberty, Kiyoshi Sugimoto, has been reinstated to help Zapatinas oversee Subaru's new, global styling direction.

A proud Subaru denies the design restructure is an admission that the Impreza did not meet expectations.

Masaru Katsurada, the former chief engineer for Liberty who is now the head of performance offshoot STi, told Drive: "These appointments are merely a natural progression in our development. We have spent the last 15 years focusing on getting our handling, performance and safety aspects just right.

"And now that we have those areas of functionality firmly grounded, we must approach our next breakthrough area, and that is of course emotional content. And by that I mean styling."

Until now, he said, Subaru penned its exteriors to match their respective models. He said Subaru's light 4WDs were designed to look "bold and chunky" to complement their off-road ruggedness.

With future design, he said, buyers could look forward to more "emotion" in greatly improved exteriors and interiors.

Katsurada pointed out that not everyone found the Impreza's styling controversial. The car is a huge hit in the US.

This is believed to be the result of two factors. Firstly, the Americans have never had a car with so much performance for such a low price ($US25,000) and, secondly, they had no previous WRX with which to compare the new model. The Impreza even won US Automobile magazine's prestigious Car of the Year award.

Significantly, Subaru will launch a heavily facelifted Impreza before the end of the year. It is expected to be new from the windscreen forward. This is the biggest and earliest facelift in the Impreza's history.

In his new role Zapatinas is expected to unveil the car although he will have had no part in its design the facelift was signed off 18 months ago.

The designer of the current WRX, Mamoru Ishii, rebutted criticism of the goggle-eyed look of the new model when it was released two years ago.

He said he knew the car would spark a love-it-or-hate-it reaction and dismissed the original Impreza which earned cult status as "boring".

Subaru said Ishii, still a major player in the company's design division, was now working on a new model, details of which the maker would not disclose.

The company says that Zapatinas has not replaced Ishii but is in a more senior position. In his role as chief designer of Advanced Design a new section in Subaru he will be in charge of all new models in an effort to make its designs, in Subaru's words, "more palatable" for a global audience.



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Old 06-11-2002, 09:21 AM   #4
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ok, from what has been said, this seems to be the best corroboration of data.

Yes, that Greek designer guy has been hired. However, we will not see an aspect of his design until the 2005-2006 Impreza.

Prodrive was contacted to give a major facelift to the current Impreza. Last word we heard, was that this was for the 2003-2004 (US) model.

There have been other random blurbs from people that for 2004 (again, 2003 for the rest of the world), the whole front-end of the Impreza, A-pillar-forward will be changed.

Chances are, we will not see the STi until 2003 (as a 2004) model, meaning that it would theoretically be the new design...so the STi we'll see, most likely won't be with the current body style.
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Old 06-11-2002, 10:33 AM   #5
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Thank you.

Yes, the Prodrive redesign is presumably the facelift that they are expected to unveil at the Paris Autoshow. It is supposedly different from the windshield forward.
Accept it. The current look is history (thank god). This is not to say that it's a guarantee that it'll look good, but in general I like the stuff that Prodrive has done in the past (the P1 for example).
We will get the last shipments of the current look Imprezas here, therefore expect the Prodrive Imprezas to arrive as an early 2004. They are NOT going to keep making the current look STi's after the transition so expect the STi that arrives here (also probably as an early 2004) to be Prodrive styled...
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Old 06-11-2002, 11:58 AM   #6
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so when is the Paris autoshow?
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Old 06-11-2002, 01:55 PM   #7
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September 21st comes to mind, I might be off a day or so.

OBTW, if only 1700 STI's are released per year, don't hold you breathe trying to get one the first ones unless you are willing to pay a markup beyond MSRP.
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Old 06-11-2002, 01:58 PM   #8
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Scubie Friends--


FYI....

Paris Auto Show info.
http://www.mondial-automobile.com/index2.htm
Sept 28 - Oct 13 2002

Motor trends link to other shows.
http://www.motortrend.com/autoshows/2000as.html

Enjoy...


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Old 06-11-2002, 02:55 PM   #9
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BTW: The BEST place I've found to get good quality pics of the cars at these shows is www.cardesignnews.com They usually post a lot of stuff before the show actually opens.
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Old 06-11-2002, 05:40 PM   #10
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Oooh! The Fiat Coupe Turbo!
That is one sexy car!
Too bad it is no longer in production.
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Old 06-11-2002, 07:42 PM   #11
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Theres no way the WRX will be redesigned specifically for the U.S. market, cause its a huge success here

Its going to be changed first somewhere else, like for the UK and Japan or something (the markets where the redesign is not doing to wheel) then spread to the rest of the markets.
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Old 06-12-2002, 09:32 AM   #12
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Oooh! The Fiat Coupe Turbo!
That is one sexy car!
Too bad it is no longer in production.
Yea, and now even Fiat is probably going away as well. HMMMM... a GM Ferrari?

Maybe Subaru will get to use some of the F50's parts in the new STi.

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Old 06-12-2002, 12:36 PM   #13
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I have a Subaru video that shows the STi. Most likely it's from SOJ. I seriously doubt that if they're not redesigning it in Japan, then they're not doing it here. The video shows a bit of rally stuff and two STi's racing each other. One they specifically pointed out as being the "WRX STi Prodrive Style". The only big difference I could tell on it was the rear spoiler (The video is rather low resolution). This may be where the rumor started about Prodrive redesigning the car. They probably designed a body kit that the dealer will offer as an option. They also seemed to keep showing the shift light in the tach and it would make an electronic beeping noise whenever it flashes.
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Old 06-12-2002, 12:52 PM   #14
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...The video shows a bit of rally stuff and two STi's racing each other. One they specifically pointed out as being the "WRX STi Prodrive Style". The only big difference I could tell on it was the rear spoiler (The video is rather low resolution). This may be where the rumor started about Prodrive redesigning the car. They probably designed a body kit that the dealer will offer as an option. ...
Nope, not exactly. There is currently a Prodrive Style STI available only in the UK. It is a the bug eyed Impreza, obvious differences are the spoiler as mentioned and the fog lights have wraparound covers. We are still looking forward to the mid-cycle Prodrive face lift to be officially released at the Paris show.
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