Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Tuesday September 23, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Miscellaneous > Off-Topic

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-01-2010, 02:36 PM   #1
ScubaruImpreza05
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 74041
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: A-town PA
Vehicle:
2006 2012 Weee-strom
SV650 For sale

Have a Nice Day? Just got a free canoe; it needs work.

Well, I was just told I can have a canoe that has been laying in a field for several years.

From looking at it turned over, I can see it needs some fixing. The 'hull' has a crack in it at the front, probably from hitting something like a rock. Basically hairline but still. The seats are rotted through so it'll need new seat material. Also, it'll need new paint.

So, I have no experience with repairing a water going vehicle. The seat is straight forward but I don't know what to use to fix the crack or what paint to use for the underside? The canoe seems to be made from a resin or ABS plastic, it weighs alot and is not metal. It's probably 12 feet long or maybe 15 with 2 seats.

Idears?
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
ScubaruImpreza05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 02:37 PM   #2
Strider
Nippert East
Moderator
 
Member#: 2197
Join Date: Aug 2000
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: An adventure is just
Vehicle:
an inconvenience,
properly considered.

Default

Look for some fancy epoxy. Maybe some fiberglass.
Strider is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 02:37 PM   #3
I25
NASIOC Supporter
 
Member#: 66501
Join Date: Jul 2004
Chapter/Region: International
Vehicle:
1989 White girl
w/red hair and phat ass

Default

So what you got was a free pile of crap, not a canoe, right? because a canoe can float with out issue, what you brought was an item in the shape of a canoe but isnt a canoe..
I25 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 02:38 PM   #4
gramicci101
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 64763
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: International
Location: AFCENT
Vehicle:
The cake is a lie.

Default

So it was, "Hey, here's some junk. I don't want to try to dispose of it properly, so I'll pretend it's worth something and give it to someone as a gift!"
gramicci101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 02:38 PM   #5
dr_wheel
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 60106
Join Date: Apr 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Pennsyltucky
Vehicle:
I eat pieces of
** like you for breakfast

Default

ABS = ABS cement


Or bondo... it fixes pretty much anything.
dr_wheel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 02:39 PM   #6
TarmacRally
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 85805
Join Date: Apr 2005
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Vehicle:
The Strdr taketh
and the Strdr giveth away

Default

So you would say its currently a cant-oe.























*crickets*
TarmacRally is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 02:39 PM   #7
boxered
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 61884
Join Date: May 2004
Chapter/Region: International
Location: buying guns
Default

ttiwop
boxered is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 02:44 PM   #8
ScubaruImpreza05
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 74041
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: A-town PA
Vehicle:
2006 2012 Weee-strom
SV650 For sale

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by I25 View Post
So what you got was a free pile of crap, not a canoe, right? because a canoe can float with out issue, what you brought was an item in the shape of a canoe but isnt a canoe..
Quote:
Originally Posted by gramicci101 View Post
So it was, "Hey, here's some junk. I don't want to try to dispose of it properly, so I'll pretend it's worth something and give it to someone as a gift!"
Quote:
Originally Posted by TarmacRally View Post
So you would say its currently a cant-oe.


















*crickets*


It will float, but might leak some water. I actually really want to restore it because it's been in the family since right after WW2 as my grandfather's.

If I patched the crack it will work fine, and seat material is easy. After that it is just prettying it up

I have to go pick it up and I'll take pics.
ScubaruImpreza05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 02:47 PM   #9
I25
NASIOC Supporter
 
Member#: 66501
Join Date: Jul 2004
Chapter/Region: International
Vehicle:
1989 White girl
w/red hair and phat ass

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TarmacRally View Post
So you would say its currently a cant-oe.
*crickets*
I25 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 02:52 PM   #10
Garandman
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 101117
Join Date: Nov 2005
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Boston
Vehicle:
2009 WRX, 06 OBW 3.0
Tiger 1050, WR250R, TW200

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScubaruImpreza05 View Post
Well, I was just told I can have a canoe that has been laying in a field for several years.

From looking at it turned over, I can see it needs some fixing. The 'hull' has a crack in it at the front, probably from hitting something like a rock. Basically hairline but still. The seats are rotted through so it'll need new seat material. Also, it'll need new paint.

So, I have no experience with repairing a water going vehicle. The seat is straight forward but I don't know what to use to fix the crack or what paint to use for the underside? The canoe seems to be made from a resin or ABS plastic, it weighs alot and is not metal. It's probably 12 feet long or maybe 15 with 2 seats.

Idears?
What brand is it? A lot of plastic canoes are made from Royalex, a thermoformable ABS. You can repair it with more ABS, and glue. If you prepare the surfaces properly it will be very strong.

Ignore the nattering nabobs of negativity.....
Garandman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 02:58 PM   #11
ScubaruImpreza05
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 74041
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: A-town PA
Vehicle:
2006 2012 Weee-strom
SV650 For sale

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
What brand is it? A lot of plastic canoes are made from Royalex, a thermoformable ABS. You can repair it with more ABS, and glue. If you prepare the surfaces properly it will be very strong.

Ignore the nattering nabobs of negativity.....
I'm not entirely sure, I'll have to see if I can find a brand on it somewhere. I don't remember ever seeing one but I wasn't looking.

I look at it this way. I already have fiberglass sheets and resin from previous projects, so if that would be sufficient I'd just need paint and some seat material. Maybe a cheap project for a free recreational toy
ScubaruImpreza05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 02:59 PM   #12
wawawrx
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 200730
Join Date: Jan 2009
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Conshohocken
Vehicle:
'08 E92 M3
'95 GC ZJ

Default

Gorilla glue, duct tape, 5 minute epoxy

/thread
wawawrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 03:04 PM   #13
spaztwelve
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 175652
Join Date: Mar 2008
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: MA
Default

I just did this exact project. I finished yesterday. First off, determine if it is in fact ABS. Your repair methods will change dramatically. I don't think you can just fiberglass an ABS canoe. It's more complicated.


My boat is fiberglass, so I did initial hull repairs on the bow and stern with bondo. I then sanded the whole hull down to rough up the paint. I pulled out all the wood pieces and sanded/varnished them. And I had one seat that needed recaining.

Here are my pics.

My dog is peeing in this picture








And finally...
spaztwelve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 03:08 PM   #14
dr_wheel
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 60106
Join Date: Apr 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Pennsyltucky
Vehicle:
I eat pieces of
** like you for breakfast

Default

Looks like fiberglass.



Edit: I don't read stuff... not the OP and he said it was fiberglass.
dr_wheel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 03:20 PM   #15
ScubaruImpreza05
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 74041
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: A-town PA
Vehicle:
2006 2012 Weee-strom
SV650 For sale

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spaztwelve View Post
I just did this exact project. I finished yesterday. First off, determine if it is in fact ABS. Your repair methods will change dramatically. I don't think you can just fiberglass an ABS canoe. It's more complicated.


My boat is fiberglass, so I did initial hull repairs on the bow and stern with bondo. I then sanded the whole hull down to rough up the paint. I pulled out all the wood pieces and sanded/varnished them. And I had one seat that needed recaining.

Here are my pics.

My dog is peeing in this picture








And finally...
Good stuff!

I'll have to verify if it is ABS or not. I'd imagine ABS would have too much flex to use fiberglass as a repair option. What paint are you/ did you use?
ScubaruImpreza05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 03:26 PM   #16
spaztwelve
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 175652
Join Date: Mar 2008
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: MA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScubaruImpreza05 View Post
Good stuff!

I'll have to verify if it is ABS or not. I'd imagine ABS would have too much flex to use fiberglass as a repair option. What paint are you/ did you use?

I went to West Marine (a boat and boating-related store) and purchased a can of exterior hull paint. It's glossy and looks real smooth. I just used a brush to apply. I also did some fiberglass work on the inside...but I didn't take any pictures.

Yeah...ABS is a whole other animal.
spaztwelve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 03:29 PM   #17
Kaiser
Ansel Adams of the Cornfield
 
Member#: 7170
Join Date: Jun 2001
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Vehicle:
Aut Kaiser,
aut nullus.

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScubaruImpreza05 View Post
I'll have to verify if it is ABS or not. I'd imagine ABS would have too much flex to use fiberglass as a repair option. What paint are you/ did you use?
I owned an Old Town ABS canoe for a decade and a half before making the leap to a Kevlar Wenonah. I can almost guarantee it's fiberglass if it's a "hairline crack" as you describe.

ABS is virtually indestructible, and certainly wouldn't crack like that.
Kaiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 03:29 PM   #18
scaryfastskier
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 7893
Join Date: Jun 2001
Chapter/Region: International
Location: Saint Louis
Vehicle:
2010 F150 & Iron883
Husky TE449 + TXC250

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wawawrx View Post
Gorilla glue, duct tape, 5 minute epoxy

/thread
I patched up a sailboat using basically that one time. It was a temporary fix to just finish out the weekend races.

grant
scaryfastskier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 03:42 PM   #19
Mike Wevrick
RIP 1/19/64 - 7/23/11
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 24654
Join Date: Sep 2002
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: saraseager.com
Vehicle:
1957 Taggart Comet
atlasshruggedpart1.com

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser View Post
I owned an Old Town ABS canoe for a decade and a half before making the leap to a Kevlar Wenonah. I can almost guarantee it's fiberglass if it's a "hairline crack" as you describe.

ABS is virtually indestructible, and certainly wouldn't crack like that.
Agreed; ABS doesn't get cracks. That means the OP's canoe is fiberglass or kevlar. If its really just a hairline, just resin might be enough to fix it.

You can order seats, repair kits, and other stuff here: http://www.boundarywaterscatalog.com/
Mike Wevrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 03:44 PM   #20
Beowulf
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 24465
Join Date: Sep 2002
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: New Joisey
Vehicle:
2012 Regal GS
1990 300ZX TT

Default

Quote:
And finally...
great dog!
Beowulf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 03:51 PM   #21
Kaiser
Ansel Adams of the Cornfield
 
Member#: 7170
Join Date: Jun 2001
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Vehicle:
Aut Kaiser,
aut nullus.

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Wevrick View Post
Agreed; ABS doesn't get cracks. That means the OP's canoe is fiberglass or kevlar.
As awfully heavy and nonrigid as ABS is, I sometimes miss the abuse it can take. We went paddling on the Housatonic yesterday and the put-in spot was 30 feet down from the road via a cramped, rocky "path". I had to baby the new canoe down it, whereas I likely would've ridden the Old Town down it.
Kaiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 03:51 PM   #22
ScubaruImpreza05
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 74041
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: A-town PA
Vehicle:
2006 2012 Weee-strom
SV650 For sale

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Wevrick View Post
Agreed; ABS doesn't get cracks. That means the OP's canoe is fiberglass or kevlar. If its really just a hairline, just resin might be enough to fix it.

You can order seats, repair kits, and other stuff here: http://www.boundarywaterscatalog.com/
Sweet. Will look into it after work as it is websensed here
ScubaruImpreza05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 03:52 PM   #23
mmetalmilitiaa
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 160878
Join Date: Oct 2007
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Fairfax, VA
Vehicle:
06 sti
sgm

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by I25 View Post
So what you got was a free pile of crap, not a canoe, right? because a canoe can float with out issue, what you brought was an item in the shape of a canoe but isnt a canoe..
Nice try.

Your logic would make a car not a car if it can't drive at a given point in time.
mmetalmilitiaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 03:54 PM   #24
Reflex-Arc
Lord of the Gif
 
Member#: 1703
Join Date: Jun 2000
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: I recommended the Sanchez.
Vehicle:
2012 Fiat 500 Sport
Copper

Default

If you got it from a man from Peru, you might want to give it a good wash.
Reflex-Arc is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2010, 04:11 PM   #25
Davemeister
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 86577
Join Date: May 2005
Location: D1cKSh0Tz [ON] OFF
Vehicle:
2015 Supercoolmobile
Awesome Pearl Metallic

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmetalmilitiaa View Post
Nice try.

Your logic would make a car not a car if it can't drive at a given point in time.
Get out.
Davemeister is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I just got 4 free beers at a bar... testify Off-Topic 7 10-23-2009 12:48 AM
so i just got a free turbo... subystone Rocky Mountains Impreza Club Forum -- RMIC 10 09-02-2009 09:45 AM
I just got a free car akstud1983 Alaskan Impreza Club Forum -- AKIC 15 11-23-2007 06:32 PM
i just got my component, do i need an amp to run it tcr04 Car Audio, Video & Security 5 03-03-2006 10:08 PM
I just got a free motorcycle!!!!1! Unsung Boxer Off-Topic 22 05-02-2005 09:32 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.