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Old 06-05-2010, 04:49 PM   #26
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We have sevral subaru distribtors, and not one of them has a higher grade oil for the tranny's that is recommended by subaru. HOWEVER, many of them have relations with various aftermarket suppliers and may have found BRAND X works better for their clients and they have less issues, or whatever the reason may be.

As for temps .. I think that 400 is pulled out of thin air ... we have never seen that high. It gets darn hot, but not 400 F ... we often install a billet center plate with high flow cooling passages for an external transmission cooler. Works really well.

I will get a picture out on Monday and post it up.
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Old 06-05-2010, 05:19 PM   #27
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I'll give you my local dealership as an example. For a number of years they had and used Extra-S. It's easy for the dealership to get. That's where I got mine. Then they decided to save some money and time so, they started to just use the gear oil from the 50 gallon barrels. What do they care if the syncho's go bad in the tranny's? You can't prove it's their fault and they make good money replacing transmissions.

I thought that Extra-S and Gear 300 felt about the same.
I completely agree, it really doesn't make sense for US Subaru dealers to sell it (from their pov at least). If anyone is at fault it's Subaru/FHI and SOA for not recommending the transmission oil that they spend time/money to contract/manufacture.

Regardless it would be a huge help for sales (even though it's expensive) if it was available from Subaru in quart, or at least gallon jugs. It's not easily accessible to the consumer considering it only comes in 5 gallon jugs for $150+, and the majority of the parts guys don't even know it exists. Hell, they'll actually deny it exists until you provide a part #, then they'll say they can't order it once they do find it (these know-it-alls can be stubborn). This was my experience with the 4 local dealerships a couple years ago.
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Old 06-06-2010, 10:21 AM   #28
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Gear 300 here. We use it in all of our cars and really like it. Holds up well to endurance racing. So well that we didn't rebuild the trans after the 25 hours of Thunderhill and it's still going strong this season.

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Old 06-07-2010, 12:57 PM   #29
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Picture as promised.
Gear 300 or the gearFF if you are using clutch type diffs (carbonetic for example)
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:19 PM   #30
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You guys that think you know better than Subaru... You really amuse me. Don't you think Subaru would love to run cheap assed transmission fluid in their trannies and NOT have to both source and stock Extra-S which is ONLY used in the 6 speeds if there wasn't a reason for it?
Where did you get the idea that Valvoline SynPower, Castrol Syntec, and Motul Gear 300 are cheap?
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Old 06-07-2010, 06:10 PM   #31
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^^I think you missed his point.
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Old 06-07-2010, 09:12 PM   #32
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johnson subaru in cary nc, uses extra-s
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:33 AM   #33
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