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Old 05-27-2010, 02:41 AM   #1
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So I was at this swap meet this past weekend and my buddy was selling an xs power FMIC core 25x9.25x3.5 and i was wondering if there is such a thing as it being too big for say a 16g or vf39 with proper fuel mods. Now the only reason i got it was because he gave it to me for 90$ which i saw as a pretty good deal. But since I am not trying to go with a huge turbo im concerned there may be too much intercooler. So thanks for any feedback.

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Old 05-27-2010, 08:21 AM   #2
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So I was at this swap meet this past weekend and my buddy was selling an xs power FMIC core 25x9.25x3.5 and i was wondering if there is such a thing as it being too big for say a 16g or vf39 with proper fuel mods. Now the only reason i got it was because he gave it to me for 90$ which i saw as a pretty good deal. But since I am not trying to go with a huge turbo im concerned there may be too much intercooler. So thanks for any feedback.

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Hate to say it, but you got ripped off.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNIVE...Q5fAccessories

Can you have too large of an intercooler for the turbo? Yes it is possible.
More than likely though, it being inefficient will be a much bigger issue.

Check out this thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1932297

And this post:
http://garagegtlinks.blogspot.com/20...er-choice.html

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Old 05-27-2010, 08:25 AM   #3
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Hate to say it, but you got ripped off.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNIVE...Q5fAccessories

Can you have too large of a turbo? Yes it is possible.
More than likely though, it being inefficient will be a much bigger issue.

Check out this thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1932297

And this post:
http://garagegtlinks.blogspot.com/20...er-choice.html
I dunno if he got ripped off, as I recall XS was a pretty decent brand, not totally generic like that one. But i could be wrong.
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:29 AM   #4
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Hate to say it, but you got ripped off.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNIVE...Q5fAccessories

Can you have too large of a turbo? Yes it is possible.
More than likely though, it being inefficient will be a much bigger issue.

Check out this thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1932297

And this post:
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He didn't get ripped off. The one you listed is SMALLER than his and is NOT bar/plate.

The FMIC garageGT tested sucked to begin with. Those piping sucked.
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:33 AM   #5
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I dunno if he got ripped off, as I recall XS was a pretty decent brand, not totally generic like that one. But i could be wrong.
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He didn't get ripped off. The one you listed is SMALLER than his and is NOT bar/plate.

The FMIC garageGT tested sucked to begin with. Those piping sucked.
I was just using that eBay intercooler as an example. I spent a whole 30 seconds finding one that was similar. You can find intercoolers on eBay "new" for less than $90 pretty frequently. He would have been much better off doing some research and buying a whole front mount intercooler kit versus buying a random huge front mount core.

I agree the garageGT FMIC was garbage, but who is to say this intercooler core he just picked up is any better? Plus he still needs charge pipes, unless he plans on fabricating his own from mandrel bent pipes.
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:45 AM   #6
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I was just using that eBay intercooler as an example. I spent a whole 30 seconds finding one that was similar. You can find intercoolers on eBay "new" for less than $90 pretty frequently. He would have been much better off doing some research and buying a whole front mount intercooler kit versus buying a random huge front mount core.

I agree the garageGT FMIC was garbage, but who is to say this intercooler core he just picked up is any better? Plus he still needs charge pipes, unless he plans on fabricating his own from mandrel bent pipes.
I personally don't like the endtanks of the ones sold on eBay. Too small. However I would buy them and redo the endtanks. other than that, it'd be a garret core with custom endtanks and piping.
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I dunno if he got ripped off, as I recall XS was a pretty decent brand, not totally generic like that one. But i could be wrong.
Turbo XS is a good brand. XS power is a cheap, worthless Ebay brand.
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Old 05-27-2010, 10:39 AM   #8
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Turbo XS is a good brand. XS power is a cheap, worthless Ebay brand.

Cheap = yes
Worthless= No
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:55 AM   #9
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hmmm.... and this is the reason i never post here. Get told im eretarded before my F*ckin question is answered. And i know i didnt get ripped off because a gddm 30$ ebay fmic is going to flow like garbage.
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I dunno if he got ripped off, as I recall XS was a pretty decent brand, not totally generic like that one. But i could be wrong.
XS Power is 100% generic. TurboXS or XS Engineering, that's a different story.

And yes, that core is too big for what you will be doing with either turbo.
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:17 PM   #11
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Cheap = yes
Worthless= No
not gonna say there the best out there but the quality its actually very good compared to godspeed to ebay junk
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not gonna say there the best out there but the quality its actually very good compared to godspeed to ebay junk
Er, no. Godspeed is a Greddy clone where the XS Power is a TurboXS clone. Quality wise they are going to be the same.
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Alright all intercoolers are all the same whether it's Perrin or eBay they All do the same thing. My buddy has an 04 sti with a 35r, meth, and race gas running 550whp and 540wtq with a ssac fmic. So can they make the same power as one that cost triple the price? Yes. Now is there such thing as too big? I guess there could be but what u have is a kind of small core. Mine on my evo 3 16g is a precision 31x10x3 I believe with ssac piping and I made 329whp and 311wtq with it. So you will be fine even with stock turbo I ran my td04 for a good while.
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Alright all intercoolers are all the same whether it's Perrin or eBay they All do the same thing. My buddy has an 04 sti with a 35r, meth, and race gas running 550whp and 540wtq with a ssac fmic. So can they make the same power as one that cost triple the price? Yes. Now is there such thing as too big? I guess there could be but what u have is a kind of small core. Mine on my evo 3 16g is a precision 31x10x3 I believe with ssac piping and I made 329whp and 311wtq with it. So you will be fine even with stock turbo I ran my td04 for a good while.
Eh, not so much. Your friend could make another 20-30whp if he got a better intercooler. And just because you did something, in no way does that mean it's remotely the right way and everyone should do it. It's not like it's physically going to prevent the car from running. And yes, that core much too big for your applications. It's much better suited to your friend's car running 29 psi on a 35R than a TD04-13T/TD05-16G making 17-18.

You have some reading to do.
http://www.are.com.au/techtalk/intecoolersMR.htm
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^hold on so your saying a 31x10x3 core is to big for an evo III big 16g running 20psi. also another reason i went alittle bigger than say maybe like this guys size is because im going 30r but thats another story. and with my friends setup i would run a little bigger intercooler than mine mine is only rated for 600hp i believe and he is running 30psi at 550whp hoping to go for more. mine will suit me since im only going for around 400whp when i drop the hybrid with 30r and meth in.
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A 30R setup is a whole 'nother story.
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hmmm.... and this is the reason i never post here. Get told im eretarded before my F*ckin question is answered. And i know i didnt get ripped off because a gddm 30$ ebay fmic is going to flow like garbage.
Absolutely. Because everyone in here told you that you are retarded.
Don't be so sensitive.

XS Power is a 'knock off' brand. Do some searching. There is quite a bit of talk about the 'eBay' intercoolers being less efficient.
Can you still make power with it? Yes.
Will you make more power with a higher quality intercooler? Yes.
Did you spend too much on a used 'eBay' intercooler? Probably.
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I have a 35r with meth going in this weekend all on the SSAC I am doing 380whp probably will get 410 whp on the EFI Mustang..
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