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Old 06-03-2010, 12:15 AM   #1
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Hey guys i was hoping to get advice on a good camera to buy, i do not know much more then the basic digital camera. I am hoping to step it up and see what your opinions are...
- Looking to spend around 400-800
? is this enough for a starter camera?
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Old 06-03-2010, 12:51 AM   #2
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The canon t1i is a nice starter camera in my opinion. I think it's still $750.
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Old 06-03-2010, 01:21 AM   #3
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go to ritz camera and try out nikon and canon dslrs and see which 1 fits you best...



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Old 06-03-2010, 06:42 AM   #4
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My older brother got a Nikon D90 body for $650.

I know nothing about cameras ,but i do know he takes awesome pictures with it.

Maybe something you want to look into.
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:10 AM   #5
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How about...the Olympus E-PL1?



You can see a review of the camera here. It's a little under $600.

It's one of four cameras on the market (all made by either Panasonic or Olympus) using the new Micro Four Thirds format, which is a kind of midway point between point and shoots and dSLRs. It uses interchangeable lenses, and has almost all of the features and functions of a regular dSLR. But because it is a mirrorless system, it doesn't have a dSLR's bulk. One consequence of the smaller size is that there is no viewfinder--you use the screen on the back like a p&s. You can get an optional viewfinder which fits into the hotshoe though.


I can't quite tell if it has the best or worst of both worlds. I'm actually hoping for other photography bugs to share their opinions.

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Old 06-03-2010, 09:09 AM   #6
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m4/3 definitely something to consider, but isn't a replacement for a DSLR...tech isn't there yet.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:12 AM   #7
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If you're looking at DSLRs (The big ass ones where you can change the lenses), be prepared to spend a couple hundred on lenses as well as the body. Canon T1i is a great starter camera, I've had mine for almost a year and I'm learning a lot with it, as well as taking good video, with a few good lens options that are affordable. But FYI, this isn't the right forum to learn about cameras. I spent like 20 hours researching different options on other forums and looking at what lenses I'll need/want and what features are important.

This video is excellent. And it was filmed with the T1i.

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Check out these forums:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:19 AM   #8
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The Canon Usethe****ingsearchbutton w/70-200 2.8 FU is perfect.


Not like there aren't at least 3 long camera/photography threads.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:22 AM   #9
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best camera at that price point - Nikon d40 with the 18-35 lens. <-- one of the best lenses they make btw. On my suggestion my parents bought one before they went to Rome. They said it's the best camera they've ever used. If you need an extra "longer" lens. Get the Nikon 50mm f/1.8, best lens at 100 bucks. Don't buy a telephoto ever.... Unless you work for National Geographic because it wont be used enough.
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best camera at that price point - Nikon d40 with the 18-35 lens. <-- one of the best lenses they make btw. On my suggestion my parents bought one before they went to Rome. They said it's the best camera they've ever used. If you need an extra "longer" lens. Get the Nikon 50mm f/1.8, best lens at 100 bucks. Don't buy a telephoto ever.... Unless you work for National Geographic because it wont be used enough.

You have no business giving out your useless opinion. Go back to General and talk street racing. Your photo sense sucks.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:28 AM   #11
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You have no business giving out your useless opinion. Go back to General and talk street racing. Your photo sense sucks.
I guess being a professional photographer for a living doesnt count as enough experience...... I guess my degree in photography doesnt help either....

And what experience/advice do you have to give btw?
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:29 AM   #12
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You have no business giving out your useless opinion. Go back to General and talk street racing. Your photo sense sucks.
This. That information is horrible. Scares me to think I trust people on the internet sometimes.

Use a 50 1.8 as my longest lens?? WHAT? D40 as best camera ever? Ugh.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:32 AM   #13
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This. That information is horrible. Scares me to think I trust people on the internet sometimes.

Use a 50 1.8 as my longest lens?? WHAT? D40 as best camera ever? Ugh.
Where in my post does it say that the D40 is the best camera ever? I said it's the best at his price point..... and yes the longest lens I have is a 50 1.8..... and with the crop ratio on the d40 it will be about 75mm... Thats enough for most people....


If you would actually look at image quality and cut down the marketing hype you'd be amazed. Although you must have your Nasioc blinders on and think that more money automatically means better. Do your research. Measure twice cut once....
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:34 AM   #14
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Hey guys i was hoping to get advice on a good camera to buy, i do not know much more then the basic digital camera. I am hoping to step it up and see what your opinions are...
- Looking to spend around 400-800
? is this enough for a starter camera?
any help would be appreciated...thanks
1.)What do you plan on using the camera for?

2.)Have you ever used a DSLR before?

3.)Do you plan on adding different lenses, flash, etc. later on?

I'd suggest reading the 3 other photogrpahy threads we have.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:36 AM   #15
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BoSuby,

Please let me make something clear about the photography types that seem to have made an appearance already in this thread. There are many people who will tell you "____ IS THE BEST!". If you have any sense of reality, you'll probably realize that this kind of statement is a load of bull penis, much like when the morons in the arcades used to say "HOLY ISH, KEN IS THE BEST CHARACTER IN STREET FIGHTER!!!". There are strengths and weaknesses to everything, but the most important thing you have to figure out is WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PHOTOGRAPH?

An 18-35 lens will be a great lens if you're walking around in a city, taking very wide-angle shots of buildings or scenery. It will be worthless if you want to shoot photography of anything of detail even remotely far away.

As for lenses,
I have a Tokina 11-16 for amazing cityscape shots, building shots, neat indoor shots and even some portraits.
I have a Canon (kit lens) 18-55. It has a good range but it's image quality isn't stellar. So I also got a Canon 50mm 1.8, which is excellent for almost everything if I'm able to move around a lot (because it has no zoom.)
I also have a Canon (the other kit lens) 55-250. It's amazing for a variety of situations, and for the price.

But as I said above, please do HOURS AND HOURS of research on video reviews (youtube or google) and please read many forums and websites to get a feel for your options and what you'll need.

THERE IS NO "BEST", there is only "what suits your needs and budget best".
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THERE IS NO "BEST", there is only "what suits your needs and budget best".
Agreed.
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Where in my post does it say that the D40 is the best camera ever? I said it's the best at his price point..... and yes the longest lens I have is a 50 1.8..... and with the crop ratio on the d40 it will be about 75mm... Thats enough for most people....


If you would actually look at image quality and cut down the marketing hype you'd be amazed. Although you must have your Nasioc blinders on and think that more money automatically means better. Do your research. Measure twice cut once....
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They said it's the best camera they've ever used.
This does imply that they have used a bunch of cameras, and the D40 is the best of the bunch. Its not what you said, but people make assumptions, and advise worded like this will guide them in the wrong direction.

I don't like the choice of the D40 because you can get a lot more of a camera for very close prices. A d80 would be a nicer choice. On ebay a D40 is going for 320 dollars ending in 6 hours. A d80 is 350 dollars ending in 3 hours. The D80 is a far superior camera. Much better features and a D40 limits which lenses you can use.

I like your suggestion of a 18-35 - I've heard good things. 50 as well, phenomenal lens. (It doesn't matter what it converts to btw, because I can guarantee this guy has no idea what film length lenses are) Telling someone never to buy a telephoto? What if their main shooting is wildlife?
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best camera at that price point - Nikon d40 with the 18-35 lens. <-- one of the best lenses they make btw. On my suggestion my parents bought one before they went to Rome. They said it's the best camera they've ever used. If you need an extra "longer" lens. Get the Nikon 50mm f/1.8, best lens at 100 bucks. Don't buy a telephoto ever.... Unless you work for National Geographic because it wont be used enough.

I'm in the same market as the OP. I was looking at the D40 on amazon and noticed they it comes with the a 18-55 lens. Is that what you're referring to? Or are you saying just buy the body and buy a lens in the 18-35mm range.

Thanks for the info
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I guess being a professional photographer for a living doesnt count as enough experience...... I guess my degree in photography doesnt help either....

And what experience/advice do you have to give btw?
I'd like to see your portfolio
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Hey guys i was hoping to get advice on a good camera to buy, i do not know much more then the basic digital camera. I am hoping to step it up and see what your opinions are...
- Looking to spend around 400-800
? is this enough for a starter camera?
any help would be appreciated...thanks
There's a dedicated photo equipment thread here

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=918381

Thanks for the price point but otherwise your question is really vague. What does 'step it up' actually mean?

The stuff you want to ask yourself are

1. What kind of photography do I plan to do with a new camera?

2. How big/bulky a new camera am I realistically going to use?

3. How much do I want to bother with learn manual controls?


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Where in my post does it say that the D40 is the best camera ever? I said it's the best at his price point..... and yes the longest lens I have is a 50 1.8..... and with the crop ratio on the d40 it will be about 75mm... Thats enough for most people....
Sorry, but your advice is pretty awful, since you claimed to be a profession I think you're so mired in photography you've forgotten how to give basic advice to someone who knows nothing about cameras.

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I'd like to see your portfolio

Ha. Me too.


I love people who claim to be pro's because they have a degree.
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I tried to find a post from him in the photographer picture a day thread, but I saw nothing.
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I tried to find a post from him in the photographer picture a day thread, but I saw nothing.

Of course not. Pro's don't share their world renowned work with plebeians.
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I'm real happy with my T1i.
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