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Old 06-04-2010, 04:25 AM   #1
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Hey guys. Recommend me some speakers. I want to replacemy stock speakers but I dont want to change or add anything else. Whatever I put in has to cake care of a decent amount of bass to negate the need of a sub. I am looking for really clear mids and highs.

I dont want to cut any metal or modify door panels at all.

Vehicle- 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX

Current system- stock

Music Choice- mostly but not only classic rock, alternative, and some techno

Music Style- usually at "normal" volume levels. When I turn it up its to be somewhat loud for ME and not to sound cool for everyone else I am driving by. I dont want speakers that will break up easily though if I do crank it up.

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Installer experience- plenty

Budget- $300
Future Goals- I may change out the HU to accomodate an IPOD but I would like to keep it stock.

Reference- I loved the way one of my previous cars sounded. 3.5 or 4" Infinity 2-way speakers in the front and poineer 3-way 6x9's in the rear with a pioneer HU. The 6x9's had just enough bass. I loved all the mids and highs, and how crystal clear the matrix soundtrack sounded. (this was 10 years ago)
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Old 06-04-2010, 07:47 AM   #2
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you need something in the 2 inch depth range to fit without spacers like 1/2 inch or 3/4s letting u get something 2/34 inch to fit
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:18 AM   #3
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HU + Small amp + fronts.

HU = Whatever you want that has an aux or ipod connection, you'll have to probably get used to stay in budget ~$100-$200

Amp = MB QUART DSC450 50x4. $90 @
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Fronts = CL-61A - CDT Audio Classic 6.5" 2-Way Components for $130 shipped @ Link

The speakers also come with a 30 foot roll of 16 gauge so your speaker wire needs are met.

You can get an 8 gauge amp kit for $12.25 w/ free prime shipping or free super saving shipping if you bundle it with the amp from above @ Amazon @
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Also you'll probably need spacers for those fronts, so budget another $10-$40 for the spacers. Either DIY out of plastic cutting board or order Kartboys. I'd stay away from IA Performance spacers or Bestbuy Meta $10 spacers cause they are just injection molded (as apposed to HDPE hard plastic like Kartboy/Cutting Board) and will resonate like crazy unless you dampen them with something like epoxy or modeling clay.

And last, I'd look at getting some mat to deaden your doors (Ie dynamat, raamat, second skin, etc). You'll be AMAZED at the sound difference. Night and day difference for my buddies Bug Eye that he did last weekend. He's running a full setup, so he just killed the power to his sub and was running JUST his fronts and some Dave Matthews, sounded very very nice.

Head spinning yet?

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Old 06-04-2010, 11:07 AM   #4
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And I don't think you're gonna get what you want with JUST replacing the front speakers but I'm not a pro.

Maybe the
Amazon.com: Polk Audio DB6501 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component System (Pair, Silver): AutomotiveAmazon.com: Polk Audio DB6501 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component System (Pair, Silver): Automotive
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Old 06-05-2010, 02:12 AM   #5
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Thanks guys.

Yeah, that $300 budget is just for the 4 speakers.
Like I said, I would like to replace the 4 interior speakers and not do any amps. If I do the HU that will be later and on a larger budget.
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Old 06-05-2010, 08:08 AM   #6
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http://www.edesignaudio.com/

Musical bliss in your eardrums. I liken ED to my B&W/Paradigm home audio setup. ANY type of music played thru an ED speaker literally makes me want to cry tears of happiness. I'm an audio whore (audiophile).

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Sorry, wasn't really paying attention when you said that you don't want to do any custom work.
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:34 AM   #7
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You want what you cant have.

You can tell yourself its possible all you want, but on your budget and your strict "I will change nothing else" mindset, you cant get anywhere near what you want.

Here are the problems you have.

With $300 for all 4 speakers, you arent going to get anything great. $300 for just fronts, you can get something decent.

Any decent speaker, is going to need an amp to shine, or at least a FAR better head unit than the factory HU.

The factory HU has strange EQ curves built into it, hard programmed you cant change it, and while it sounds correct on the factory speakers, those EQ curves are made for the factory garbage speakers. Which leaves you with a situation where when you upgrade the speakers and not the HU, you end up with a fairly strange sound. And many people report LESS bass than the factory speakers had due to this exact issue.

You cant get anywhere close to "negating the need for a subwoofer" on $300 speakers (especially 300 for all 4) with no amp. Sorry, cant be done. If you wanted to pick up enough low end to do that, you are looking at minimum 100RMS (good clean 100rms, not kenwood $199 100rms) per channel, $500-700 components and a good amount of sound deadening in the doors.

Even then, you cant ever totally negate the need for a sub. All music has lows that go into the range that only a sub can reproduce with enough force to your ears to pick it up.

A lot of people use the "I dont listen to rap or oontz, so I dont need a sub" line. The reality is that these people are kidding themselves. Even country music needs a subwoofer to fully hear it. The problem is that so many people equate a subwoofer with boomy thumping bass. Even multiple 12s with a huge amp, can seemlessly blend in so you dont even "notice" that they are big ass overkill powered speakers, if the enclosure is properly designed, the levels and crossovers are set properly and they are a GOOD speaker.






On your $300 budget you would be WORLDS better off buying a set of $120-150 speakers and a $150-180 head unit.


Drop the idea that you can get what you want for your current budget, it cant be done. PERIOD. You will get far more milage for your dollar if you do only fronts and a head unit.

Even then, its not going to get you what you say you want right now. But it will get you a hell of a lot more than buying 2 sets of speakers for 300 bucks.
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