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Old 06-04-2010, 09:03 PM   #1
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Thumbs up New EBCS Pro From PERRIN - Boost Control Solenoid



The EBCS Pro Series 3-Port Electronic Boost Control Solenoid is designed to control todays high performance wastgates with it's ultra fast response and bomb proof design.

The PERRIN EBCS™ was the first and original aftermarket boost control solenoid, and now we have taken it one step further with the EBCS Pro™! The EBCS Pro™ is now made from higher quality materials (no plastic) includes improved fittings (again no plastic), rated to 250F (compared to just 150F) and even faster response time(twice as fast). We have explained why it's better than the old one, now why do you need this at all? Simple! Better boost control from your turbocharged engine!

The PERRIN EBCS Pro™ functions very different than the OEM solenoid. You will get faster boost response (more power down low), and the ability to hold more boost at higher RPM's. Who wouldn't want more boost, more power, and better response!?

Since the EBCS Pro™ works differently than stock, it does require ECU re-tuning. Retail clients can contact us directly for most popular Subaru and Mitsubishi mapping needs. But, if you are a professional tuner, we provide a growing number of car specific tech tips to help get your own maps dialed so everyone can benefit from the PERRIN EBCS Pro™!





EBCS Pro Installed On Various Vehicles



















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Old 06-04-2010, 11:33 PM   #2
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so this can be run as 2 port or 3 port?
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Old 06-07-2010, 11:06 AM   #3
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The EBCS Pro is just like our old EBCS in that its a 3 port solenoid. So it can run in our coined "Interupt" mode, or on external wastegates. The pics above only show fittings in 2 of the ports, because in most applications you only use two fittings. While this can work as a 2 port (like you stock solenoid) its best to use the interupt mode or fast response mode. This is where the EBCS Pro was meant to work.
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Old 06-09-2010, 02:04 AM   #4
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some of the volvo guys will find this interesting,he popular volvo model available looks like your old unit
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Old 06-09-2010, 12:36 PM   #5
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Great! We welcome this to any car! What would be great is to get some pics of one installed on a Volvo and get some tunes using the EBCS Pro! Send me and email if you can help us out with this! We will hook you up!
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:48 AM   #6
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Bump for a great part and even better information! Have a GREAT weekend NASIOC!
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Old 06-14-2010, 03:51 PM   #7
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Also we have a new version of this page all done!

BOOST CONTROL EXPLAINED CLICK HERE!
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:27 AM   #8
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:25 AM   #9
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I was also wondering if you could do a tutorial on the Accessport Race Tune software of how to tune the WGDC and the Turbo Dynamics! Even if this is a written tutorial and not a video one. I have been struggling with the Grimmspeed 3port for a while now and am to the point that Im tired of it. I just bought a HOA and Im going to buy one of your new Pro models to do a trial! Thanks for any feedback maybe to launch the new EBCS you could do a group buy if you do I want to be first on the list, thanks again Jeff! PM sent as well!

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Great! We welcome this to any car! What would be great is to get some pics of one installed on a Volvo and get some tunes using the EBCS Pro! Send me and email if you can help us out with this! We will hook you up!


jeff pm me you email
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:31 AM   #11
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I was also wondering if you could do a tutorial on the Accessport Race Tune software of how to tune the WGDC and the Turbo Dynamics! Even if this is a written tutorial and not a video one. I have been struggling with the Grimmspeed 3port for a while now and am to the point that Im tired of it. I just bought a HOA and Im going to buy one of your new Pro models to do a trial! Thanks for any feedback maybe to launch the new EBCS you could do a group buy if you do I want to be first on the list, thanks again Jeff! PM sent as well!
Send me an email and the map you are using in race tuner format. I will get you set up for sure. I am putting together a couple of car specific How-to's for the EBCS for everyone to see. But in the mean time just email me your info and will get you taken care of!
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http://www.perrinperformance.com/sha...rgizedv2sm.jpg this is the interrupt mode you're talking about right?

i'm confused...i'm only seeing 2 ports, is there another diagram i'm missing?

edit: i see the top port...is it recommended to vent that back into the turbo inlet hose
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Old 06-21-2010, 01:32 AM   #13
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http://www.perrinperformance.com/sha...rgizedv2sm.jpg this is the interrupt mode you're talking about right?

i'm confused...i'm only seeing 2 ports, is there another diagram i'm missing?

edit: i see the top port...is it recommended to vent that back into the turbo inlet hose
Sounds like you got your question answered, BUT, if not don't hesitate to e-mail Chris.Cone@PERRINPerformance.com or call out tech dept. at 503-693-1702

Thanks for the post!
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Old 06-23-2010, 04:11 PM   #14
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http://www.perrinperformance.com/sha...rgizedv2sm.jpg this is the interrupt mode you're talking about right?

i'm confused...i'm only seeing 2 ports, is there another diagram i'm missing?

edit: i see the top port...is it recommended to vent that back into the turbo inlet hose
The top port(or left over port for other applications) works best to have it vented to atmosphere. But there is no reason to not vent it back to the intake system, but there is not enough air leaking to cause a change to the Air Fuel Ratio, or cause your car to run funny. Hope that helps!
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:52 PM   #15
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do you keep the boost restrictor pill in?

i assume with the perrin pwi-2 kit, I don't have to change any wiring to work with the boost cut fail safe?
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:41 AM   #16
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what makes this better than the grimmspeed product
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:23 AM   #17
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do you keep the boost restrictor pill in?

i assume with the perrin pwi-2 kit, I don't have to change any wiring to work with the boost cut fail safe?
You do not use the restrictor pill if you are using the interrupt/fast response mode or with an external wastegate. If you do end up hooking it up like the stock system, you will need the restrictor. But if you are doing this you are not really getting any benefits of the EBCS Pro.

You will NOT have to change anything about the wiring for the failsafes. It works just like the old one in that regards.

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what makes this better than the grimmspeed product
Here is a comparison of the old versus new. If you have seen our old one and compared it to the above mentioned brand, you will see this comparison works for both.

Realistically the biggest change for us is the better brackets. While the New EBCS Pro is better is many ways, we think customers will be much happier with the brackets and the way it looks. Let me know if you have more questions!
Comparison of PERRIN EBCS Pro to the old PERRIN EBCS

The New PERRIN EBCS Pro is very different than any other boost control solenoids out there and fits the look of more modern cars. The below comparisons are base on our old EBCS. The old EBCS (while it is the original) is the very similar to many of our competitor's parts, which means its also a comparison against our competitors parts.
  • New EBCS Pro completely custom made valve, body, coil spring, everything! Made in the USA!
  • Old EBCS is an off the shelf part (if you knew where to get it)

  • New EBCS Pro comes with nickel-plated brass fittings, which look nicer and are super strong.
  • Old EBCS came with black plastic fittings that would break when people over tightened them.

  • New temp rating is -40 to 250F which means it could be put almost anywhere with no issues.
  • Old EBCS Temp rating was 5F- 120F, which is ok for most cars and mounting far away from heat.

  • New EBCS Pro response time (open to close) at 12VDC: 10-15ms
  • Old EBCS response time (open to close) at 12VDC: 18-25ms

  • New EBCS has 2 fitments (universal and WRX) with special brackets that fit any application.
  • Old EBCS had no bracket and holes needed to be drilled or zip ties to secure part.

  • New EBCS Pro tested under working conditions -40 to 250F to control 80psi of boost accurately. While this is not feasible for most applications, it shows how accurate and how fast this valve can respond and deal with air pressure.
  • Old EBCS rated to 120psi of static pressure not under working conditions. These tested to control 40psi of boost accurately.

  • New EBCS Pro Control volume is now .2 Cv which is a 5% increase
  • Old EBCS Control volume (which can relate to flow) was .19 Cv
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Old 08-18-2010, 05:27 PM   #18
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Any chance on a dyno comparison chart between old Perrin EBCS vs. the New Perrin EBCS PRO. I have been needing to get one as I had the old version but conked out on me at the tune so I was forced to buy a Perrin MBC as I would have lost my dyno tune money. Although the Perrin MBC got me a WOT graph, I would have prefered an EBCS.

I have not heard of any reviews of the new PRO or seen any dyno charts so that would be nice.
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:53 PM   #19
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The dyno graphs will be the same if we did this. While the solenoid is faster than the old one, it will not spool the turbo up much faster. At least not enough to notice. For instance i wouldn't every try to sell an EBCS Pro to a customer who has the old one unless they like the looks of the new one. The speed at which it works is better for boost control (smoother control) and even that would be hard to show any difference. I have ran them somewhat back to back an basically the WG DC gets lowered maybe 3% of the old one. Not sure if that helps answer your question!
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:35 PM   #20
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This thread has been reopened for more questions.

We have sold lots of these since we introduced the part, if you're one of the new owners please post up your product reviews.

Thanks so much
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