Mazda's WRX rip off??

rsholland · 06-04-2001, 08:12 AM

Anybody, besides myself, notice that the new Mazda MP3 has borrowed a number of WRX styling/marketing cues such as the big round fog lamps, and they offer a sports wagan in bright yellow?

The price is right, around $18K, but the horsepower isn't (140). And, of course, it's not AWD.

Bob

Imprezer · 06-04-2001, 10:57 AM

Zoom-Zoom!

shinestreetwill · 06-04-2001, 11:17 AM

Zoom

JaMa · 06-04-2001, 11:20 AM

Mazda=Ford=Trouble

Plus, the car you are talking about is BUTT-A** ugly

They are just trying to change their image in anticipation of the RX-8 hitting the street next year - I guess they hope someone will buy them or something... hehe

JaMa

WonderDude · 06-04-2001, 11:32 AM

the scoobies' design is sorta "next-gen." i bet we'll see many more cars come out with similar styling, and soon the scoob design won't seem so different or odd (to some). it sure has grown on me.

also, the large vertical oval headlights have been on mercedes and porsche cars for over a year now...

subaruwrx · 06-04-2001, 12:26 PM

I know, i like it too... Whats wrong with a little imitation? Isnt that called flattery or something?
--Adam

ort5 · 06-04-2001, 12:41 PM

I actually really like the styling of the Protege 5 and MP3. I wish the WRX looked that good.
If only it had the 'spunk' to back it up.
Dave

Jimmy · 06-04-2001, 12:52 PM

I think the New wrx is ok i mean the old body looks alot better when you add the ground affects to it and the wing

but the new wrx has a nice interior

but that is what i think

David S. Wallens · 06-04-2001, 02:55 PM

Actually, some of the body parts on the MP3 and Protege5 come from the Japan-market Mazda Familia. Maybe Subaru copied Mazda? Or maybe both are copying the Renault Gordini?

Anyway, we just drove the new Mazdas, and they're cool. Personally, I'm glad to see Mazda building cars for this market segment. Mazda knows the MP3 needs more power, so let the horsepower wars begin (or something like that).

David S. Wallens, managing ed
Grassroots Motorsports www.grassrootsmotorsports.com

plaRp · 06-04-2001, 03:48 PM

i wouldn't mind gettin my hands on the twin turbo 255hp awd 626 they showed off at the Geneva auto show...
http://www.cardesignnews.com/events/...626mps093.html

ejicon · 06-04-2001, 04:46 PM

I saw a Silver MP3 Wagon the other day... WRX Wanna Be indeed!!!

Eby · 06-04-2001, 06:19 PM

Looks more like an EVO to me. The fact that it has larger fog lights is the only thing in common, and lots of cars have fog lights. The WRX wagon isn't offered in yellow(and the sedan isn't exactly bright). So I don't think they're copying subaru.
<IMG SRC="http://www.motortrend.com/jan01/mp3/mp3.jpg" border=0><IMG SRC="http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/images/02protege5.jpg" border=0>

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tom@kartboy · 06-04-2001, 06:28 PM

there will be more power. i was working with a "KNOWN" mazda tuner and he was doing some testing on a supercharger kit for them.
personally i like the car and wouldnt have a second thought about gettting one.
tom@kartboy.com

garface · 06-04-2001, 06:37 PM

Since they only made between 1000-1500, the great under 18k price of the MP3 will probably go over $20k. That 626 concept is a blatant Lancer Evo ripoff. Just look at it. Tell me what is different. It even WAS supposed to have 280hp and AWD for the production model.

kapnk · 06-04-2001, 07:55 PM

actually the zoom has much nicer headlights, more like a saab. so what if they copied. if the mfg notice the world is buying more wagons, then you make wagons, if awd, then you build awd's. big deal. mazda is a very foward thinking manufacturer. i've owned 5 rx-7's and i've always like the 323's and 626's. rx3's 4's all rock. the rx7 saw quite a bit of rally experience and has more gtu wins than any manufacturer. probably only 2nd to the porsche 911 in overall wins. i love cars. sorta like blondes or brunettes. they are all fun! racing beat developed the mp3 suspension. i even like the hyundae accent they rally. new citroen xsara looks REALLY cool(mini is300). in design, just about everything is a ripoff of something intentional or not. you are influenced everyday and might not even notice.

Overtime · 06-04-2001, 10:16 PM

You know Subaru's (somewhat hypocritical) comment about a big wing, big rims, and ground effects not making a sports sedan? Guess who that's targeted at.

06-04-2001, 08:12 AM	#1
rsholland Scooby Specialist Member#: 5769 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Ellicott City, MD, USA Vehicle: '09 WRX Prem 5-dr Dark Gray	Mazda's WRX rip off?? Anybody, besides myself, notice that the new Mazda MP3 has borrowed a number of WRX styling/marketing cues such as the big round fog lamps, and they offer a sports wagan in bright yellow? The price is right, around $18K, but the horsepower isn't (140). And, of course, it's not AWD. Bob

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06-04-2001, 10:57 AM	#2
Imprezer Your friendly neighborhood KGB agent Member#: 1 Join Date: Jun 1999	Zoom-Zoom!

06-04-2001, 11:17 AM	#3
shinestreetwill Vendor Member#: 5163 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: socal	Zoom

06-04-2001, 11:20 AM	#4
JaMa Scooby Specialist Member#: 5206 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Centennial, Colorado	Mazda=Ford=Trouble Plus, the car you are talking about is BUTT-A** ugly They are just trying to change their image in anticipation of the RX-8 hitting the street next year - I guess they hope someone will buy them or something... hehe JaMa

06-04-2001, 11:32 AM	#5
WonderDude Scooby Newbie Member#: 6481 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brentwood, MO Vehicle: 2002 WRX Sedan Midnight Black	the scoobies' design is sorta "next-gen." i bet we'll see many more cars come out with similar styling, and soon the scoob design won't seem so different or odd (to some). it sure has grown on me. also, the large vertical oval headlights have been on mercedes and porsche cars for over a year now...

06-04-2001, 12:26 PM	#6
subaruwrx Scooby Specialist Member#: 1818 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: San Francisco Vehicle: 03 1996 Impreza Wa Soon to be a v3 STI	I know, i like it too... Whats wrong with a little imitation? Isnt that called flattery or something? --Adam

06-04-2001, 12:41 PM	#7
ort5 Scooby Newbie Member#: 3706 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jaffrey, NH Vehicle: 2000 VW Golf TDI 5mt Red	I actually really like the styling of the Protege 5 and MP3. I wish the WRX looked that good. If only it had the 'spunk' to back it up. Dave

06-04-2001, 12:52 PM	#8
Jimmy Scooby Newbie Member#: 586 Join Date: Dec 1999 Vehicle: 2002 WRX Blue	I think the New wrx is ok i mean the old body looks alot better when you add the ground affects to it and the wing but the new wrx has a nice interior but that is what i think

06-04-2001, 02:55 PM	#9
David S. Wallens Scooby Newbie Member#: 3492 Join Date: Jan 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Ormond Beach, Fla. Vehicle: 1971 Mini Cooper '92 Miata, '88 CRX	Actually, some of the body parts on the MP3 and Protege5 come from the Japan-market Mazda Familia. Maybe Subaru copied Mazda? Or maybe both are copying the Renault Gordini? Anyway, we just drove the new Mazdas, and they're cool. Personally, I'm glad to see Mazda building cars for this market segment. Mazda knows the MP3 needs more power, so let the horsepower wars begin (or something like that). David S. Wallens, managing ed Grassroots Motorsports www.grassrootsmotorsports.com

06-04-2001, 03:48 PM	#10
plaRp Scooby Newbie Member#: 3780 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas,Tx	i wouldn't mind gettin my hands on the twin turbo 255hp awd 626 they showed off at the Geneva auto show... http://www.cardesignnews.com/events/...626mps093.html

06-04-2001, 04:46 PM	#11
ejicon Scooby Guru Member#: 2452 Join Date: Sep 2000 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Burbank,California, USA Vehicle: 08 2.5 WRX WRB Mica	I saw a Silver MP3 Wagon the other day... WRX Wanna Be indeed!!!

06-04-2001, 06:19 PM	#12
Eby Scooby Specialist Member#: 1305 Join Date: Apr 2000 Chapter/Region: AKIC	Looks more like an EVO to me. The fact that it has larger fog lights is the only thing in common, and lots of cars have fog lights. The WRX wagon isn't offered in yellow(and the sedan isn't exactly bright). So I don't think they're copying subaru. <IMG SRC="http://www.motortrend.com/jan01/mp3/mp3.jpg" border=0><IMG SRC="http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/images/02protege5.jpg" border=0> [This message has been edited by Eby (edited June 04, 2001).]

06-04-2001, 06:28 PM	#13
tom@kartboy NASIOC Vendor Member#: 67 Join Date: Jul 1999 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego, CA Vehicle: Our Shift WON'T break!	there will be more power. i was working with a "KNOWN" mazda tuner and he was doing some testing on a supercharger kit for them. personally i like the car and wouldnt have a second thought about gettting one. tom@kartboy.com

06-04-2001, 06:37 PM	#14
garface Scooby Guru Member#: 1581 Join Date: Jun 2000 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: yonkers, ny Vehicle: MY00 RS/STi7 MY01 RS Both Silverthorne	Since they only made between 1000-1500, the great under 18k price of the MP3 will probably go over $20k. That 626 concept is a blatant Lancer Evo ripoff. Just look at it. Tell me what is different. It even WAS supposed to have 280hp and AWD for the production model.

06-04-2001, 07:55 PM	#15
kapnk Scooby Newbie Member#: 4890 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Titusville, FL, USA Vehicle: 2001 Impreza RS Silver	actually the zoom has much nicer headlights, more like a saab. so what if they copied. if the mfg notice the world is buying more wagons, then you make wagons, if awd, then you build awd's. big deal. mazda is a very foward thinking manufacturer. i've owned 5 rx-7's and i've always like the 323's and 626's. rx3's 4's all rock. the rx7 saw quite a bit of rally experience and has more gtu wins than any manufacturer. probably only 2nd to the porsche 911 in overall wins. i love cars. sorta like blondes or brunettes. they are all fun! racing beat developed the mp3 suspension. i even like the hyundae accent they rally. new citroen xsara looks REALLY cool(mini is300). in design, just about everything is a ripoff of something intentional or not. you are influenced everyday and might not even notice.

06-04-2001, 10:16 PM	#16
Overtime Scooby Specialist Member#: 1346 Join Date: Apr 2000	You know Subaru's (somewhat hypocritical) comment about a big wing, big rims, and ground effects not making a sports sedan? Guess who that's targeted at.