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Old 06-17-2010, 01:31 PM   #1
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Default my 2009 wrx has 3 broken ring lands

took it to the dealer because of leaking + burning oil ....

compression test revealed 3 broken ringlands

my car is stock! what happened?

what could have caused this, i thought it was only the 08 sti that had ring land issues...
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:59 PM   #2
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lol any 2.5l can have the issue.
stupid cast pistons

get some forged
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:07 PM   #3
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So can the 2.0l's...
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:38 PM   #4
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are the ringlands a name for one of the pistons rings?
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Old 06-17-2010, 03:03 PM   #5
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No its the casting between the rings themselves. A part od the piston.
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Old 06-17-2010, 03:05 PM   #6
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this sucks, the dealer is questioning me about any modifications because i was in for a failed/clogged/collapsed catalytic converter only 2 weeks prior ,and my car is all stock!

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Old 06-17-2010, 03:10 PM   #7
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tell them it was not modded. They will say that so they don't have to cover it under warranty. If it is truly stock tell them to prove it.
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Old 06-17-2010, 03:21 PM   #8
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tell them it was not modded. They will say that so they don't have to cover it under warranty. If it is truly stock tell them to prove it.

that was pretty much my plan before you posted, if they told me to pay for it id tell them to prove its not stock (which is impossible lol)
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Old 06-17-2010, 03:46 PM   #9
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Involve SOA right away.
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Old 06-17-2010, 04:02 PM   #10
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Here we go again. Stealership ftl
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Old 06-17-2010, 04:23 PM   #11
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umm if none of you have ever worked for dealership your missing the big picture! the dealership is your FRIEND!! SOA has to pay them out of there pocket for the work. the tech gets paid his hours for the work whatever SOA deems time wise! if he completes it in 2 hours he still gets paid 6hrs if thats what the job calls for. the dealership also get there money!! the dealership will NEVER turn down free money. if anyone gives you problems at a dealership its because SOA is telling them to give you problems. warrenty work is a dealerships wet dream!
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Old 06-17-2010, 04:34 PM   #12
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If I'm not mistaken, dealers don't get as good a money for warranty work as they would if you just came in to have the work down out of pocket....it's analogous to health insurance companies negotiating the price of visits down since they will be sending greater volume to the 'in network' providers. Maybe this info is dated though.
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Old 06-17-2010, 04:42 PM   #13
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i cant say 100% what the dealer gets hourly from a manufacture, but i no they charge about $80 for a customer just walking in. regardless of what the dealer gets paid its still money in there pocket a possed to no work at all. zero of zero is still zero. the tech however still gets his cut which makes him happy. again subi may say its a 14hr job and a good tech may do it in 8hrs. he still gets paid for 14hrs of work! if he has a say he'll push the coverage. what does suck for walk-ins they do the same thing to you. they'll tell you something is a 8hr job when the tech can do it in 4hrs, you still pay for 8hrs
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Old 06-17-2010, 05:12 PM   #14
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the times it takes to do a repair is set by subaru, not the dealerships or the mechanics. Its called flat-rate pay. Its so you can be given an accurate estimate on the repair. If they say it takes 8 hours and the mechanic takes 16 hours to do the repair would you wanna be paying for the mechanics stupidity??? didnt think so
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Old 06-17-2010, 06:11 PM   #15
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Not this debate again.

Hmmmm. Lie to the dealership and if they find something was modded (which they can) they will not cover 1 cent of it.

Or, tell them the truth and level with them and they will be helpful. These are real people and not some corporate face. If you try to play a service manager as a fool, he/she will kick you to the curb, and rightfully so. If you get SoA involved and the dealership is strong in suggesting A/M mods, they will find marks of any previous install (ECU mod included).

A perfect example is a kid from my dealership with a later model WRX. Clutch was replaced under warranty and showed signs of abuse. Said the car wasn't modded. Blew up the motor and swore the car was never modded. The dealership was suspicious, and grilled the kid to level with them. The kid was out of order and just was belligerent. The dealership found slips in the car of 1/4 mile times as well as using the kids info to find out he was racing and reading his forum posts and finding a vid of his car. Needless to say, they refused all warranty work.

My point is that you have already admitted guilt on this site. My dealer is a member of this site & 3gwrx.com. You're now playing with fire.

This is just some friendly advice.
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Old 06-17-2010, 06:11 PM   #16
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i cant say 100% what the dealer gets hourly from a manufacture, but i no they charge about $80 for a customer just walking in. regardless of what the dealer gets paid its still money in there pocket a possed to no work at all. zero of zero is still zero. the tech however still gets his cut which makes him happy. again subi may say its a 14hr job and a good tech may do it in 8hrs. he still gets paid for 14hrs of work! if he has a say he'll push the coverage. what does suck for walk-ins they do the same thing to you. they'll tell you something is a 8hr job when the tech can do it in 4hrs, you still pay for 8hrs
My dealership breaks it down by work type. The engine/tranny rate is different than the brake/suspension rate, etc...
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Old 06-17-2010, 08:50 PM   #17
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that was pretty much my plan before you posted, if they told me to pay for it id tell them to prove its not stock (which is impossible lol)
Uncle Scotty told you that you would blow up your car...

You were doing maximum acceleration runs and other dumb stuff as YOU posted in a number of other threads...

You are wasting peoples time by playing an innocent victim. Your car is the only victim. A victim of your ignorance, abuse and that's-just-too-bad.
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Old 06-17-2010, 08:53 PM   #18
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took it to the dealer because of leaking + burning oil ....

compression test revealed 3 broken ringlands

my car is stock! what happened?

what could have caused this, i thought it was only the 08 sti that had ring land issues...
The 2009 WRX motors have been blowing up stock. Just have SOA warranty it w/ a new free motor and try to get an extended warranty too for free.
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:29 PM   #19
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Uncle Scotty told you that you would blow up your car...

You were doing maximum acceleration runs and other dumb stuff as YOU posted in a number of other threads...

You are wasting peoples time by playing an innocent victim. Your car is the only victim. A victim of your ignorance, abuse and that's-just-too-bad.


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Old 06-17-2010, 10:42 PM   #20
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Nothing wrong with 'maximum acceleration runs' in a well maintained and properly warmed up engine but launching the car hard with 4 people and 80 lbs of crap in a cooler in the trunk is the dumb stuff .
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:45 PM   #21
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The sad part is that we all warned him.
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:47 PM   #22
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The sad part is that we all warned him.
Tek, when you pulled the dirt out in his thread about his slipping clutch (ie the hard launches), I think I almost spit coffee all over my work laptop....epic .
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:02 PM   #23
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Tek, when you pulled the dirt out in his thread about his slipping clutch (ie the hard launches), I think I almost spit coffee all over my work laptop....epic .
I just wish we could email all of this to his dealer...

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Old 06-17-2010, 11:10 PM   #24
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Uncle Scotty told you that you would blow up your car...

You were doing maximum acceleration runs and other dumb stuff as YOU posted in a number of other threads...

You are wasting peoples time by playing an innocent victim. Your car is the only victim. A victim of your ignorance, abuse and that's-just-too-bad.
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:16 PM   #25
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Holy ****, this thread delivers!
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