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Old 06-18-2010, 04:18 PM   #1
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OMGHi2U How to Prevent a New Exhaust From Rusting? (Surewin)

OK, I'm about to buy the V2 Surewin catback, which is a Cobb replica, off eBay. I've read the reviews about this product and pretty much the only negative is that some have experienced rust fairly quickly.

I live in Michigan, and I was wondering what the best and most efficient ways to protect and prevent against rust are. Note that this is a brand new exhaust that I'll be buying.

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Old 06-18-2010, 04:43 PM   #2
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High Temp Paint...
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:44 PM   #3
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It is stainless (or says it is), and shouldn't rust. I do know that on the east coast people get residue from the road on their exhaust, and the residue can tarnish/rust but once it is cleaned and polished it will shine again!
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:07 PM   #4
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Yeah I might just high temp paint the welds, and keep the tip SS.
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:34 PM   #5
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Remember - stainless is stain LESS. Not stain PROOF.
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:00 PM   #6
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Wax it.
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:20 PM   #7
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200 bucks exhaust+spray cans or whatever you use, how long is it going to last?? don't be cheap just get a real exhuast that's not going to rust..Just my opinion
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Old 06-20-2010, 03:42 PM   #8
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high temp paint is a good option.

just clean the muffler/tip every time you wash your car, staining is nearly impossible to avoid. Who cares about the stains under the car. If it bothers you that much use some BRASSO on it and call it a day.

AND...get a Cobb, you wont regret it
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Old 06-20-2010, 07:53 PM   #9
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Can't I'm not rich.
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Old 06-20-2010, 08:36 PM   #10
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Don't bother with the expensive name brand exhaust's out there. Take it from an ebay no name exhaust owner, they will do there job of flowing exhaust to the rear of the vehicle for a fraction of the cost. I think I spent maybe 120 shipped for my turbo back about 2 years ago or more.

I actually don't like the stainless shiny look at all so i painted mine with satin black right wen i bought it. Its very stealthy at night. It doesn't even look like there's an exhaust on my car.

Also if it does fall apart or rust and look crappy paint it and be happy knowing your exhaust looks like that expensive Apexi unit for a 1/4 what other people paid

Now when it comes to other parts that are actually important don't cheap out at all.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:17 AM   #11
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Don't bother with the expensive name brand exhaust's out there. Take it from an ebay no name exhaust owner, they will do there job of flowing exhaust to the rear of the vehicle for a fraction of the cost. I think I spent maybe 120 shipped for my turbo back about 2 years ago or more.

I actually don't like the stainless shiny look at all so i painted mine with satin black right wen i bought it. Its very stealthy at night. It doesn't even look like there's an exhaust on my car.

Also if it does fall apart or rust and look crappy paint it and be happy knowing your exhaust looks like that expensive Apexi unit for a 1/4 what other people paid

Now when it comes to other parts that are actually important don't cheap out at all.
+1. Costs hardly anything to buy or to replace and does the job.

Make sure you read up on what your're about to buy from ebay to ensure its received good reviews. A lot of ebay pipes are pure ****, although some, like what I've been running, do just fine.

Also, I'm not so sure I'd trust an ebay dp since that is where you're truly extracting power. I'm running ebay from the 3rd cat back for now with a brand name, if you will, dp up front. Others might argue with me though, I'm sure full knock off stuff would be fine for stage 2 setups.


As for the rust issue, quickly done, bulk welding without good preparation like is the case on virtually all no name pipes (well, that is it seems to be the case) is a big cause of rust on these pipes. Here's a good article I read a while back when buying exhaust components that explains rust issues (the stuff on rust is partway down). To note, you'll see the same rust problems develop on even many of the more expensive components, although a few would be quick to defend these select products for some reason.

Oxidation happens. Preventing rust depends on how much you take care of your stainless. If you clean, polish, and keep them dry you'll keep surface oxidation to a minimum. Some polishes claim to "seal" the stainless to a degree. Like mentioned, you could paint the pipes or welds which would definitely help. If I were you, I wouldn't worry about it. You could buy that exhaust set maybe four or five times before you could buy a "nicer" one once, so even if it rusts out after a couple years, just re-weld it or get another.
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I have the same exhaust and I painted mine black. The only rust issues I heard people talking a bout was at the hangers and maybe the welds. I live in socal though so Im not worried...
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Old 06-22-2010, 12:02 AM   #13
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I have the same exhaust and I painted mine black. The only rust issues I heard people talking a bout was at the hangers and maybe the welds. I live in socal though so Im not worried...

Thoughts on the exhaust? Your opinions?
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I just ordered another ebay exhaust. after 3 years the tig welding is fine, some rust spots on the pipes, none on the can though. did its job, nice sound, but droned on the highway.

what failed was a hanger on the fart can. the weld broke a chunk off the muffler, so now theres a hole on my n1 style ebay can. dunno how that happened honestly since im using stock hangers, and i doubt i bottomed out the can

btw, i got the cobb replica looking one this time
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i have one and its awsome only thing that sucks is that it hugs the bumper but overall its quiet at idle, but when you get on it it rumbles loud and nice but also quiet at cruising speed. i have it mated to a ebay dp, i can take video if you guys want. i can tell you this alot of the name brand companies and the ebay ones have the manufacturing company so basically its the same stuff just like greddy and megan racing, everybody used to dog on megan when its made in the same place as greddy in taiwan. so who ever tells you that most ebay parts are garbage they better look again at what they have becuase it might be built in the same location as the knock off
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:22 AM   #17
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If the exhaust is SS but a lower grade it will get rust on it but will not corrode through. I've seen this on Northern cars with the lower grade SS aftermarket exhausts. If I were you and you plan on keeping the car awhile I'd get a quality namebrand one, JMO.
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How about this, don't be a dummy and buy garbage can parts then ask how you can make them work like a quality part.


Buy crap, get crap.

If you cant afford a quality exh, you can afford to modify the WRX to begin with. A GOOD exh, top end, you are looking at 800 bucks if you pay full retail. If you spend 30 seconds in the vendor classfieds, you can find QUALITY exh setups for half that. If you cant swing @400 bucks, then you cant afford to modify a WRX. Sorry, thats the reality.


Or you can help the chinese slave labor knock off companies put the real companies that innovate and design the parts, out of business. Which means eventually there will be no more new parts, and the older parts will get bought up, leaving us all with nothing but garbage quality child labor produced communist country supporting CRAP.


Go buy a civic and drive it into a lake.

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How about this, don't be a dummy and buy garbage can parts then ask how you can make them work like a quality part.


Buy crap, get crap.

If you cant afford a quality exh, you can afford to modify the WRX to begin with. A GOOD exh, top end, you are looking at 800 bucks if you pay full retail. If you spend 30 seconds in the vendor classfieds, you can find QUALITY exh setups for half that. If you cant swing @400 bucks, then you cant afford to modify a WRX. Sorry, thats the reality.


Or you can help the chinese slave labor knock off companies put the real companies that innovate and design the parts, out of business. Which means eventually there will be no more new parts, and the older parts will get bought up, leaving us all with nothing but garbage quality child labor produced communist country supporting CRAP.


Go buy a civic and drive it into a lake.
+1, QUOTED FOR TRUTH.
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I have good experiences with ebay SS. welds held up fine, the midpipe has rust spots that can be buffed out. 3 all season in CT.

you can spray the body with ?Jig-a-loo? it is a non water based coating which prevents rusting.
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:57 PM   #21
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ive had every exhaust on the market and im equally as happy with my surewin v2 catback from ebay. it rusts just as much as the greddys and hks catbacks and less than my fujitsubo rm01a catback. its the same catback that jna and gimmick are selling as their own.

davenow, you make me laugh.
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have it ceramic coated? might be expensive... but it will last
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How about this, don't be a dummy and buy garbage can parts then ask how you can make them work like a quality part.


Buy crap, get crap.

If you cant afford a quality exh, you can afford to modify the WRX to begin with. A GOOD exh, top end, you are looking at 800 bucks if you pay full retail. If you spend 30 seconds in the vendor classfieds, you can find QUALITY exh setups for half that. If you cant swing @400 bucks, then you cant afford to modify a WRX. Sorry, thats the reality.


Or you can help the chinese slave labor knock off companies put the real companies that innovate and design the parts, out of business. Which means eventually there will be no more new parts, and the older parts will get bought up, leaving us all with nothing but garbage quality child labor produced communist country supporting CRAP.


Go buy a civic and drive it into a lake.

I love when people bring up the "chinese labor" etc etc. its a friggin japanese car! most parts whether or not they are good quality or a "good" brand they aren't made here in the states. If you want to support the american economy with your car purchases, buy a ****ing ford.

BTW most exhaust parts are soo damn expensive because you are paying for the name. its a friggin tube with flanges on it. My ebay headers look just as tarnished as my buddies perrin ones and they cost me 42 bucks.
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but.. but.. but.. you need design innovation on pipes!
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Can't I'm not rich.
You can. It's called "saving money". Just because you can't get it NOW doesn't mean you CAN'T get it. Save for a few months and get a QUALITY exhaust.

Trust me. I went through the whole ebay exhaust phase. I'm now glad I ponied up the dough and bought a quality Invidia exhaust.
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