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Old 08-15-2011, 01:01 PM   #1
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Event: Dyno Pull
Location: Boomba Racing, Schaumburg, IL
Ambient Temp: 75?
Elevation: 800'
Weather: Wet and inbetween storm fronts
Tires: 2011 WRX take off's : Dunlop SP Sport 01's in 235/45-17.

Car: 2005 Saabaru 92x Aero
Tuner: Tyrael
Dyno Info: Mustang
Transmission: 2005 5 speed
Gear: 3rd/4th/5th
Peak HP at RPM: 235@6480 uncorrected
Peak Torque at RPM: 235@3800 uncorrected
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Have to be low!
Target Boost: 19 and change on the dyno, more on that later.
Target AFR: 11.3
Fuel: 93 Shell
Engine/Power Modifications: HOA BCS, STi tmic, JDM pinks (thanks fellstar), Wally pump, prodrive UP, VF30 (thanks Tyrael), Invidia DP (thanks luti), APS Twin Tip 3" (thanks rexFTW).
Driveline Modifications: 56k on the trans, 14k on a stock clutch?
Suspension Modifications: Epic springs and RSB
Other Modifications: Enkei ES Tarmac's in 17x8 +45, LGT brakes (HPS pads and Napa Gold rotors up front, stock stuff in the back)




However, after seeing the graph and the boost output, I know I was supposed to hit 21#, and considering how my tune is setup to pull IAM in response to knock, I thought to reset the ECU. It's been a hot summer for all of us, and spending time between Chicago and Michigan, I figured I'd be a bit down on power. Sure enough, leaving Boomba, the car felt alive again! Thanks again to the people at 6 Star Motorsports, everyone who I have and will be buying parts from, and Tyrael for a great tune!

Next year for the car are a trans (6 speed?!), maybe id1000's and e, or inlet/intake/header/EWG?
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:20 PM   #2
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Event: quarter mile
Location: GLD: Union Grove, WI
Ambient Temp: 75?
Elevation: 778
Weather: Under real storm clouds
Track and Conditions: concrete and prepped!
Tires: Same as above ^

RT: 1.082
60': 2.137
330": 5.776
1/8: 8.842
MPH: 81.08
1000': 11.435
1/4: 13.647
MPH: 102.22


Got talked into running at Real Street Drags this past Friday which is a chance for midwest area folks (Chi town garage forum members) to grudge race. I was not planning on running and did not have the extra money to pay my way, so a friend spotted me. The event asked you to put a name on your back window so you can be designated more easily, and my friend wanted TAMPON. That's the explanation for the colorful descriptions.

This run was hot lapped after a 2.2 60' where I missed second, after I was doing 2.6's all night. Slipping from 3500 is gonna do nothing by bog you, everyone. Car has plenty left in it as it trapped 104, but it'll need a driver to get that to happen, or I simply have to stop caring about saving the 5 speed.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:20 PM   #3
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:42 AM   #4
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AB: Thanks for that airboy, even if it is anemic.

Everyone! Does that 104 trap make sense with that airboy? AND, does that airboy make sense with my parts list?
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:43 AM   #5
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Dude that 60' needs to drop about 4 tenths of a second. It should definitely be in the 12's trapping at 104 with a poor launch. Grow a set next time! lol
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:16 AM   #6
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Dude that 60' needs to drop about 4 tenths of a second. It should definitely be in the 12's trapping at 104 with a poor launch. Grow a set next time! lol
You can hear me coming off the clutch until the 60' almost! I know it could be lower, and I think I'm capable of figuring that out too, just wanted to keep it together my first time to the track. With that said, I haven't really done a good 1-2 shift in fear of the trans, but the 2-3 and 3-4 were good (go-pro is planned next time to get a better idea). I was going for trap, not ET.

Anyone else wanna chime in? Seeing other 2.0's running VF's into the 11x's on 93 has me thinking lots of weight loss? Or are other bolt on's really pushing the turbos that much further?
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:49 AM   #7
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Anyone else wanna chime in? Seeing other 2.0's running VF's into the 11x's on 93 has me thinking lots of weight loss? Or are other bolt on's really pushing the turbos that much further?
You have the setup to trap in the 108-110 range. That setup should be making an extra 25-35whp over what you made on airboy. IMO either something is wrong or it is overly conservative. Good running stg2 tdo4 cars trap 102-106mph on 2.0s
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:23 AM   #8
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You have the setup to trap in the 108-110 range. That setup should be making an extra 25-35whp over what you made on airboy. IMO either something is wrong or it is overly conservative. Good running stg2 tdo4 cars trap 102-106mph on 2.0s

This is truth. I trapped at 103 in 85/90* weather with my td04 on a 2L.
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Old 10-21-2011, 01:55 PM   #9
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Here's the VD of the same log

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Old 10-21-2011, 02:19 PM   #10
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You have the setup to trap in the 108-110 range. That setup should be making an extra 25-35whp over what you made on airboy. IMO either something is wrong or it is overly conservative. Good running stg2 tdo4 cars trap 102-106mph on 2.0s
Might be in the tune, but I still think the car was running down at the track. That dyno at boomba was done the day after, but without seeing logs from either and resetting the ECU, I'm not sure.

I do plan on running around with another vf'd 2.0 when the car comes out for the spring that Jorge did, but you got my attention for sure!

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This is truth. I trapped at 103 in 85/90* weather with my td04 on a 2L.
Think my junk launch account for the difference?
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Old 10-21-2011, 04:32 PM   #11
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Without a doubt. With a customer's 16G 2liter I cut 1.78 sixty foots and run 12.6@107. On VD he's making 20hp more than you and 60tq so your results will vary.
But if you cut .3 off your sixty foot your gonna lose atleat that much (probably more) off your total time.

EDIT: looking at the VD graph it looks like the ground wasn't level at all so any comparisons made from your car to other cars based on Airboy or VD are null and void...
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Old 10-22-2011, 05:13 PM   #12
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Dux - how can you tell it was unlevel?
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:31 PM   #13
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Without a doubt. With a customer's 16G 2liter I cut 1.78 sixty foots and run 12.6@107. On VD he's making 20hp more than you and 60tq so your results will vary.
But if you cut .3 off your sixty foot your gonna lose atleat that much (probably more) off your total time.

EDIT: looking at the VD graph it looks like the ground wasn't level at all so any comparisons made from your car to other cars based on Airboy or VD are null and void...
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Dux - how can you tell it was unlevel?
Dips at 3600 and 5200 match in WHP and WTQ point to something in the road, not in the car/tune.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:39 PM   #14
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the VD screen shot says wt. 3785? what was in your car? curb wt. is like 3200?
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:24 PM   #15
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I'm 150, tuner was 180, 3rd friend getting tuned later was sitting in the car to 'max' load potential and is 260.

3200+150+180+260=3790.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:17 PM   #16
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Dux - how can you tell it was unlevel?
Look at the mustang dyno in the OP's first post. See the SHAPE of the tq curve? That's "normal" for this setup. See the curve on the VD? Its not "normal" at all. The reason why is its a log from uneven ground.
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:11 AM   #17
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Sorry to dig this out of the depths, but to Dux and Junior:

Are you aboth talking about trap numbers on straight 93 or funny gas (E or otherwise)? I was under the impression I was within range by 1 or 2...
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Old 11-25-2011, 03:47 AM   #18
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No. On 93 you should be in the 108-110 range with a vf.
My customer's car was making 304whp and 324wtq in vd (on E85), but that was with poor compression and leaky BOV. With a less leaky BOV he hit 12.3 at 114 with wheelspin and blown headgasket (not sure how much power he was making at that time).
Your mph matches a TD04 car.
I wanna see a fresh log in VD on LEVEL ground from your car if possible???
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:02 AM   #19
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yeah i 2nd that
u should be making around 300 whp with this turbo
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:22 AM   #20
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yeah im thinking boost leak my friend or maybe motor a bit weak?? idk but yeah there should be some more in it. i like the rims btw.
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Old 11-25-2011, 08:29 PM   #21
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New/clean log won't happen until March; the car is parked for the winter and has been for a few months. Leak test came back negative on initial install, but I was gonna get the tune looked at/touched up after all this news too. Weak motor could be to blame! It'd certainly fit the history this car has had since I bought it 2 years ago...

And thanks on the rims! I LOVE the design/weight and they're NEVER for sale, but I can't stand the color. Way too loud. I didn't buy a silver wagon to say look at me...
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Any chance you used to frequent a place called bikeguide..? haha.

Wagon looks sook. Can't wait to get mine down the track next summer.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:19 PM   #23
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Any chance you used to frequent a place called bikeguide..? haha.

Wagon looks sook. Can't wait to get mine down the track next summer.
Been over there forever man! I followed/creeped your questions, to searching, to joy threads over the past few years.

I'll be coming around the St. Joe's area this coming summer if you wanna meet up sometime...
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Been over there forever man! I followed/creeped your questions, to searching, to joy threads over the past few years.

I'll be coming around the St. Joe's area this coming summer if you wanna meet up sometime...
I'm not familair with the St. Joes area. What part of Michigan? If at all.

I'd be down though. Were in the process of tuning my wagon right now.
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I'm not familair with the St. Joes area. What part of Michigan? If at all.

I'd be down though. Were in the process of tuning my wagon right now.
The nice escape from Benton Harbor; South west part of the state.

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