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Old 07-11-2010, 05:18 PM   #226
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Yea nobody races around corners together on the street. Nor do they race in groups in most auto x events around here. Its timed one car at a time in parking lot with cheap cones, bad chalk marks. Auto x is fun and requires great skill to get around the track but doesnt get my blood flowing like a good street or drag race. Just proving a point that racing in a straight line can be done anywhere and almost anytime. Thats what makes it so great. I like quick acceleration what can i say. All tracks are diff most of them are lame to me. I have not yet raced on a cool track and if i did i would want a car i can bang up a little bit and not worry about it after. You have to wait all week maybe a month sometimes for an auto x event. I can go street race a stang or camaro almost anytime. Auto x requires skill but when you guys brag about your times it cracks me up. You can make a small mistake and .5 seconds aint gonna kill you when u run 30 sec multiple laps. You make a mistake in a drag/street race, its more critical. So dont tell me I can't drive when i set the record for quickest wrx (vf52) in the world without flat foot shifting on pump/meth with fully loaded 09wrx. You think 12.01 is impressive wait till i get some good rubber on the car and the weather cools down a bit and i get frisky and maybe use flat foot shifting


You havent raced on a cool track because you think drag is it. It takes very little skill to mash a gas pedal for 1320 feet.

And .5 seconds for a mistake? Listen, I dont know where youre running your AutoX, but most likely, if you make a .5 second mistake, you suck. Its not that the course sucks, or your car doesnt handle well (which in reality, it really doesnt), its that you suck. You can blame it on the car all you want, but at the end of the day, you were driving.

Oh, and the last AutoX I attended, first through tenth was separated by 0.2 seconds. The key point, which I wouldnt expect someone of your intelligence to understand, is consistency.

Now, please street race yourself into a large, immovable object.
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Old 07-11-2010, 05:22 PM   #227
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There is no 93 octane in the states? The Orlando gas stations must have been lying when I went then.
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The US STi's were made to run on 93 which isn't offered everywhere in the states.
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Old 07-11-2010, 05:26 PM   #228
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Nevermind. I cannot read. My bad.

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Old 07-11-2010, 05:58 PM   #229
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there should be a sticky

yes your EJ Can make 340059 hp, after you hire a team of design engineers and have the motor put together in a climate controlled clean room and make sure everything is within .00000001 mm in specs

yes you can drop in a set of forged pistons and rods in a 4g63t, put some big turbo on it and have a half-assed tune and it will still outlast an EJ

whats the next arguement...13B vs EJ25??

WTF 13B SUXORZ DAMN ROTARY APEX SEALS ALWAYS WEARIN OUT!! BUT HAY..800 hp out of 1.3L is fine by me!!
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Old 07-11-2010, 11:41 PM   #230
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lol BBC>2jz>4g63>13b ≥ej25
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Old 07-11-2010, 11:51 PM   #231
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I take issue with your list.

LSX > 2JZ > SBC > 4G63 > EJ207 > F20C > EJ257 >>> 13B
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Old 07-12-2010, 12:01 AM   #232
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LSx > 2JZ?

Just because you can drop an LSx in anything doesn't mean it's the best engine ever. I just hate the LSx, nothing to see here move on.

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Old 07-12-2010, 12:13 AM   #233
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Just so we are clear, I don't mean LSX where 'X' is a variable (i.e., LS1, LS6, LS7). I mean the actual LSX aftermarket iron block and associated heads.

My friend has a shop that builds a lot of Corvettes. He's built more than one with some huge turbos and the LSX blocks take it with a smile. One of the current cars has twin 35Rs and made over 700whp on the wastegate spring break-in tune. Another has 1100+whp with MANY drag/street pulls on it. I'd say they are pretty strong.

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Old 07-12-2010, 12:31 AM   #234
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What is that a supra with a LSX?
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Old 07-12-2010, 12:34 AM   #235
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I take issue with your list.

LSX > 2JZ > SBC > 4G63 > EJ207 > F20C > EJ257 >>> 13B
I'll second that discention of stock dynamic engines

in other words, no aftermarket variants of strokers, longrods, etc...


I guess we did leave off the RB and potentially but not yet proven VR

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Old 07-12-2010, 12:38 AM   #236
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That's what it looks like.
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Rocket>lsx > 2jz > Sbc > 4g63 > Ej207 > F20c > Ej257 >>> 13b
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Old 07-12-2010, 02:02 AM   #238
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We didn't get the 2.0 motor because it was in better interest to offer the American market a car that produced more low end torque. The everyday person in the states prefers low end grunt than a crazy high revving power band.
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I was told by my tuner the ej207 never came to the states because of our gas quality. I believe that to be more likely as there are quite alot of cars today that are built or stock that are rev monsters (honda S2K, Mazda RX7, Toyota MR2)
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I used the JUN car because the OP wants a +600 horsepower car. It's possible and was done with the 2.5 block. I assume it was built with all JUN parts in house as all JUN cars are.

I highly doubt the EJ207 coming to the states has anything to do with fuel quality. The US STi's were made to run on 93 which isn't offered everywhere in the states. The Rx7s, MR2s and even the s2000 were all cars offered long before the STi was introduced to the states and all ran on 91. So I think it's safe to say that fuel quality and rev limits are completely in different ball parks

Reading comprehension> you

I listed the MR2, RX-7, S200 or the k20 in argument saying that not every american is on a tq binge. Those vehicles/motors have been very succesful in the good ol' US of A. So I don't think subaru redisgned a whole new motor because we like tq.

It shows with the 08 WRX, they basically said FU to the US when they redesigned the car to more of a world style car trying to be competitive in the world market.
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:43 AM   #239
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Reading comprehension> you

I listed the MR2, RX-7, S200 or the k20 in argument saying that not every american is on a tq binge. Those vehicles/motors have been very succesful in the good ol' US of A. So I don't think subaru redisgned a whole new motor because we like tq.

It shows with the 08 WRX, they basically said FU to the US when they redesigned the car to more of a world style car trying to be competitive in the world market.
I don't know if you realize it or not but the MR2, RX7, and s2k are all dead. Subaru only kept the 2.0 because of WRC rules. Another thing is due to us Americans loving sedans we were the only ones to get a sedan wrx and after many complaints we got the wrx/STi sedan back. Explain to me now why the Euro/Jap markets miss out on this?
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That Jun GDB Impreza runs a stroked 2.0L using the EJ25 crank. TD06H 25G turbine.

http://www.junauto.co.jp/democar/gdb.../index.html?en

Go ahead and call JUN a liar yourself then.The JUN Hyper Lemon car is by far my favorite car of all time. I truly think this beast would rival the HKS CT230 if it was brought back and updated a bit.

Yes the car uses a TD06H 25G turbo and I almost bought the kit just because this car ran it, but I learned it comes stock from Greddy/Trust with a 8cm hotside and the 10cm would have to be custom ordered and would cost quite a bit more. The final thing that pushed me away was the use of an up pipe adapter that creates a bottle neck toward the up pipe side of the turbo. The turbo also uses a 3 bolt hotside which is more common for Nissans and would limit the turbo's that could potentially be swapped in its place. JUN's is obviously crazy custom and doesn't have this issue.

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Yep, and 2000hp.
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Yea nobody races around corners together on the street. Nor do they race in groups in most auto x events around here. Its timed one car at a time in parking lot with cheap cones, bad chalk marks. Auto x is fun and requires great skill to get around the track but doesnt get my blood flowing like a good street or drag race. Just proving a point that racing in a straight line can be done anywhere and almost anytime. Thats what makes it so great. I like quick acceleration what can i say. All tracks are diff most of them are lame to me. I have not yet raced on a cool track and if i did i would want a car i can bang up a little bit and not worry about it after. You have to wait all week maybe a month sometimes for an auto x event. I can go street race a stang or camaro almost anytime. Auto x requires skill but when you guys brag about your times it cracks me up. You can make a small mistake and .5 seconds aint gonna kill you when u run 30 sec multiple laps. You make a mistake in a drag/street race, its more critical. So dont tell me I can't drive when i set the record for quickest wrx (vf52) in the world without flat foot shifting on pump/meth with fully loaded 09wrx. You think 12.01 is impressive wait till i get some good rubber on the car and the weather cools down a bit and i get frisky and maybe use flat foot shifting
The fail is strong with this one.
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I don't know if you realize it or not but the MR2, RX7, and s2k are all dead. Subaru only kept the 2.0 because of WRC rules. Another thing is due to us Americans loving sedans we were the only ones to get a sedan wrx and after many complaints we got the wrx/STi sedan back. Explain to me now why the Euro/Jap markets miss out on this?

Just because the S2000, MR2, and RX7 are dead have u seen the used market for them these days. They are not cheap. A 25 y/o MR2 with decent milage still goes for a more than a few grand.

Yes We are the only ones that got the 4 door sedan. The reason for the new 5 door is for a world market. Have you ever been overseas and see the cars they drive over there? The WRX 5 door blends in with every car on the road in europe.
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rb26dett> 2jz > 4g63 > sr20det > Ej207 > F20c > Ej257 >>> 13b>>>>>>>>>anything honda
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Just because the S2000, MR2, and RX7 are dead have u seen the used market for them these days. They are not cheap. A 25 y/o MR2 with decent milage still goes for a more than a few grand.

Yes We are the only ones that got the 4 door sedan. The reason for the new 5 door is for a world market. Have you ever been overseas and see the cars they drive over there? The WRX 5 door blends in with every car on the road in europe.

You're a jerk off. First you said that the 5 door was strictly for WRC efforts which they are pulling out of. Now your defending the 5 door because other countries use a more hatch back type vehicle and blends into their market lol. Just give it a rest lol.

Who said anything about s2000s, MR2's and RX's being cheap. You're just searching for a reason not to be wrong. Oh, and homie...if you don't think those cars are cheap I'd have to see what you think expensive is.
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rb26dett> 2jz > 4g63 > sr20det > Ej207 > F20c > Ej257 >>> 13b>>>>>>>>>anything honda
Would the 4B11 be considered proven yet?
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Just so we are clear, I don't mean LSX where 'X' is a variable (i.e., LS1, LS6, LS7). I mean the actual LSX aftermarket iron block and associated heads.

My friend has a shop that builds a lot of Corvettes. He's built more than one with some huge turbos and the LSX blocks take it with a smile. One of the current cars has twin 35Rs and made over 700whp on the wastegate spring break-in tune. Another has 1100+whp with MANY drag/street pulls on it. I'd say they are pretty strong.

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are you talking about the guys at RPM?
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Just so we are clear, I don't mean LSX where 'X' is a variable (i.e., LS1, LS6, LS7). I mean the actual LSX aftermarket iron block and associated heads.

My friend has a shop that builds a lot of Corvettes. He's built more than one with some huge turbos and the LSX blocks take it with a smile. One of the current cars has twin 35Rs and made over 700whp on the wastegate spring break-in tune. Another has 1100+whp with MANY drag/street pulls on it. I'd say they are pretty strong.

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are you talking about the guys at RPM?
Yep. Do you know Fran? You should see turbo going on the red vette.
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