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Old 07-03-2010, 02:39 PM   #1
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Cool Equilibrium Tuning is proud to announce our New Remote Tuning Service!

In the early years of EQ Tuning, we offered remote tuning services to the community with great success. We gained many happy customers all over the country and continue to get many requests for remote tuning. As we grew into a full shop, we no longer had the time to fully support this demand, so we greatly scaled down our remote tuning offerings to maintain our level of quality. As we continued to receive more and more requests for remote tuning, however, we decided to come up with a way to offer our same quality remote tuning services along with the prompt customer service we always strive for. To solve this, we have added a new member to our staff to head the remote tuning department!

At the helm of this new service is one of the pioneers of open source Subaru tuning; former XPT remote tuning specialist Braden Bergher. Over the years, Braden has gained extensive experience and developed a great reputation for himself and his services. To improve on his work, Braden will now be using EQ's extensive library of polished maps and data to provide you with top notch quality tunes. EQ Tuning owner and head tuner Ed Uksusman will be overseeing and verifying the quality of work to make sure you are completely satisfied with your tune and the final result is up to the EQ Tuning standard.
This will allow us to provide you with lightning fast response times, and widespread support for Remote Tuning customers.

We are now offering complete custom tunes for 2002+ Subarus, and 2003+ EVOs via Remote Tuning. This is not your basic off the shelf e-Tune! In this process we start with a highly polished base map that matches closely to your specific modifications. We then have you provide datalogs of various conditions such as startup, idle, cruise, and WOT. Your logs are reviewed and a new revision is created based on the supplied data. This process is repeated for up to one full month until we have perfected the map to your specific car, requirements, and even your driving style.

This process is great for simple setups as well as more complicated setups such as big MAF intakes, big turbos, rotated setups, race fuel, meth injection, etc. Such setups require some serious time to not only extract the right amount of power but to provide great daily drivability and consistency. This is where our attention to detail really comes into play and will result in the best possible tune for your setup with an emphasis on the balance between power, consistency, drivability, and reliability.

Remote Tuning can be done using a Tactrix OpenPort cable, or COBB’s AccessPORT. A wideband oxygen sensor is required for most remote tunes. Most remote tunes are in the range of $350-$500 depending on level of modification.

For more information about this product and our services, please visit our new remote tuning division website at: http://www.remotetuning.com. The site is still under construction, so please contact us with any questions.

We are very excited to be able to offer this service to you and hope to tune your car soon!

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Old 07-03-2010, 03:34 PM   #2
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I have always thought you were one of the more intelligent tuners on nasioc and am sure you will be very successful with this endeavor.good luck with everything
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Old 07-03-2010, 03:46 PM   #3
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dynochart or GTFO!



You're gonna steal my bidness yo
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Old 07-03-2010, 03:54 PM   #4
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hey hey hey Ron wasn't it you and mikey who told me there was plenty of business for everyone when you guys started tuning cars in Jr's backyard.lol
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i was kidding. i was talking to ed about it a couple minutes ago....shoulda put a after the

its still a different market. he's charging 2-3x the price i charge.......i just dont see people paying $450 for an e-tune. but if he gets it more power to him.

And this isnt a job to me...its a hobby and its fun. The only reason i charge is because its time consuming.
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hey hey hey Ron wasn't it you and mikey who told me there was plenty of business for everyone when you guys started tuning cars in Jr's backyard.lol
There are plenty of cars to go around. If Ron lived out here, he wouldn't mind if there were 5000 e-tuners. I think i'm working on cars 50 hours a week, after my 40 in the office, and i'm probably eating the least in this area (go figure, im 250 )

What Ed is doing here is great. For the past three months, I've been doing more personalized e-tuning so that pro-tune results can be had. Not just emails, but texts, phone calls, ECT have been utilize to enhance the experience and results.

1 map a day for 2-4 days is sent, so that real world driving can be logged, along with fuel trims and WOT driving. Its cool to interact with people from all over the states and even over seas. At the end of the day, a quick convo gives me more confidence in the customer being happy, wanting more, or identifying problems that I may not see in a log or two.

Its really cool stuff, and I wish Ed and EQ the best of luck.

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I asked Ed when he was gonna hire me so i can quit my day job.

Playing with cars is much more fun than sitting in a cubicle farm praying that the air conditioner comes crashing through the ceiling onto your head.
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Thanks for the support guys! I've never been a big fan of the "quicky" tunes in general (in person or remotely), and my pricing has always reflected the time I spend on my work. The high end of the price is only for more complicated setups that will obviously take a lot more time and correspondence to dial in to our standards. Most lower end setups fall into the $350 range which I believe is a very fair price for the attention to detail and results you'll be getting from us.

I've always wanted to offer something like this on a bigger scale but I never had enough time available to devote to it. So I'm very excited to be able to expand this service to the masses with the increased support staff.

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I asked Ed when he was gonna hire me so i can quit my day job.

Playing with cars is much more fun than sitting in a cubicle farm praying that the air conditioner comes crashing through the ceiling onto your head.
Tell me about it! I spent my fair share of time in a cubicle farm staring at endless lines of code. This is definitely a lot more fun, although its also a lot more stressful and not as lucrative .

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so.....when do i start?
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so.....when do i start?
When Braden has too much work to handle

Unless you want to move up to norcal

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I was just busting you and mikeys chops,its all in fun and I do it just as a hobby thing also,but I am a master paintless dent repair tech during the day so my job is still kinda fun,I sometimes get to work on porsches,jags,bentleys,etc.
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When Braden has too much work to handle

Unless you want to move up to norcal

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I'd say this would be the start of a "Dream Team" in tuning. I've learned a ton from both these guys. Braden is definitely a quality addition to your team.

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Happy 4th of July everyone! I am very excited to be joining Ed's team and look forward to the opportunities this will bring us! Thank you all for the support and kind words.

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Although I hate trolling I agree with Phatron..
Ray @ Turbotek charges $189($150 sale last month) I can't see ME or someone else paying that much for e-tune. All it is, is emailing the logs/map back and forth til it is right. Then $60 later for 3 AWD dyno runs at a local shop, you can't beat that!

$350-400 is what I pay for a dyno tune at Area1320 or Evans tuning.
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Although I hate trolling I agree with Phatron..
Ray @ Turbotek charges $189($150 sale last month) I can't see ME or someone else paying that much for e-tune. All it is, is emailing the logs/map back and forth til it is right. Then $60 later for 3 AWD dyno runs at a local shop, you can't beat that!

$350-400 is what I pay for a dyno tune at Area1320 or Evans tuning.
You're totally entitled to your opinion. I haven't seen Turbotek's work specifically, but I have seen plenty of "E-Tunes" that were called finished and yet needed a lot more work. Considering what they charge, I wasn't surprised that the extra time was not taken to dial the tune in perfectly.

Our remote tuning service will get you the same results as a dyno/road tune in person and that's why we charge within $50 of an in-person tune. EQ Tuning has always been about providing top notch quality and we are not willing to sacrifice this quality by trying to match or undercut the lower priced options. Our customers have always seen this and appreciated our unmatched attention to detail and don't mind paying appropriately for it. The cheaper options will always be out there. Hobby tuners will always be out there. "Friends" who can tune your car will always be out there as well. Its just up to the customer to decide what level of quality they want to go with and what fits into their budget.

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EQ remote tuning is good

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so now price = quality ?

that was kinda insulting.
I guess your tune = made in china?

haha

Just giving you a hard time Ron

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Okay your FOI, It's not my opinion. Your talking about quality of tune and think your better since you charge more? Ray is great at tuning Subarus his results from e-tune beat most of the these other dyno "pro tuned" setups for half the price. I would say he is on par with Jorge Carrillo. Matter of fact there are only 4 tuners that will ever touch any cars I own.
Ray Arroyo
Jorge Carillo
Ryan of 1320
Jeff Evans of Evans Tuning

Here are results/graphs and info just some of the recent tunes.
Dyno Graphs:
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...ad.php?t=99609
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http://www.turbotektuning.com/

Anyone paying more than $250(if that) for an e-tune is crazy. If your putting down 400+hp while pushing 95+% IDC you might as well have it on the dyno with a controlled cooling area.



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You're totally entitled to your opinion. I haven't seen Turbotek's work specifically, but I have seen plenty of "E-Tunes" that were called finished and yet needed a lot more work. Considering what they charge, I wasn't surprised that the extra time was not taken to dial the tune in perfectly.

Our remote tuning service will get you the same results as a dyno/road tune in person and that's why we charge within $50 of an in-person tune. EQ Tuning has always been about providing top notch quality and we are not willing to sacrifice this quality by trying to match or undercut the lower priced options. Our customers have always seen this and appreciated our unmatched attention to detail and don't mind paying appropriately for it. The cheaper options will always be out there. Hobby tuners will always be out there. "Friends" who can tune your car will always be out there as well. Its just up to the customer to decide what level of quality they want to go with and what fits into their budget.

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Its about options and what you consider 'good enough'. If I have the money, like Ed's work, and want what I consider to be the best for my car then I have no problem paying for it.

Same reason why some people wear Casio and others wear Rolex.

Now, Ed, how about that altitude e-tune? I think a Prius is faster than my sloppy pig rich of a car these days.
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Nice Ed! Good to see you're branching out the EQ brand, hopefully the EQ quality can be upheld. Knowing you I'm sure you won't settle for anything less

Sorry but I'm about to clutter your thread some more... Call me an "EQ fanboi"


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Although I hate trolling I agree with Phatron..
Ray @ Turbotek charges $189($150 sale last month) I can't see ME or someone else paying that much for e-tune. All it is, is emailing the logs/map back and forth til it is right. Then $60 later for 3 AWD dyno runs at a local shop, you can't beat that!

$350-400 is what I pay for a dyno tune at Area1320 or Evans tuning.
What do you think actual dyno tuning does that is so different from remote tuning? It's all in the tuner and how much time he feels like spending sending maps back and forth. Some tuners feel a couple of revisions is good enough, others want the tune to be perfect. I feel the main difference with remote tuning compared to road tuning with Ed is you won't have Ed's troubleshooting in-car should something not go right. With Ed onboard he can feel every little detail during driving and fix/adjust it, I feel that aspect is lost in a remote tune. Also, with EQ remote tunes you can save your $60, or $75 if you want A/F, since Ed has his own dyno software!

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Okay your FOI, It's not my opinion. Your talking about quality of tune and think your better since you charge more? Ray is great at tuning Subarus his results from e-tune beat most of the these other dyno "pro tuned" setups for half the price. I would say he is on par with Jorge Carrillo. Matter of fact there are only 4 tuners that will ever touch any cars I own.
Ray Arroyo
Jorge Carillo
Ryan of 1320
Jeff Evans of Evans Tuning

Here are results/graphs and info just some of the recent tunes.
Dyno Graphs:
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...ad.php?t=99609
Site:
http://www.turbotektuning.com/

Anyone paying more than $250(if that) for an e-tune is crazy. If your putting down 400+hp while pushing 95+% IDC you might as well have it on the dyno with a controlled cooling area.

Do you even live on the West Coast? If not you really shouldn't be commenting on the quality of tuners we have here. I have used 5 different "reputable" tuners here in California/Arizona/Nevada. It's a joke what people think are "good tunes".

Ed is confident in his tuning ability and feels his quality of work is valued at a certain price, why does that make you insecure? Did you really need to name drop other tuners in EQ's announcement thread(granted this should probably be in vendor announcements and not PPB)? You seem to think more power=good tune. What about driveability? Idling? Attention to detail? Peace of mind? There are a lot more variables to a good complete tune that a dyno doesn't show. If you haven't experienced an EQ tune why are you even commenting on Ed's prices or his quality of tunes? I never liked remote tuning, but if Ed stands behinds these remote tunes as he does his road tunes then I'm sure he'll do just fine. Quit crapping in his thread and go start your own about free e-tunes

How many dyno setups do you know have a controlled cooling area that can simulate 100-120mph aero? I can count on 1 hand the places I know, but then again I'm not tight with all those uber tuners.

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so now price = quality ?

that was kinda insulting.
From what I've seen 70% of the time, yes, you get what you pay for. This is a free market, people are always welcome to lowball or value their time less, doesn't necessarily mean you get an inferior product. I sell a ton of "made in China" parts and even more parts from American companies. Price is usually directly related to not just quality, but service too. Everyone has their own opinion of at what price is the quality a good value. But the market will balance itself out, eventually.
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Ben covered this very well. I'd just like to add this is in fact your personal opinion and nothing more. You hold certain tuners in high regard and that's great, but you have not dealt with me previously and therefore cannot make a true comparison.

Like I said, there is always someone out there who will perform a service for less money. Sometimes that cheaper service is worse, sometimes its the same, and on occasion its even better than the more expensive service. Its really up to the consumers to decide based on experience rather than making their decision based on someone else's opinion.

FYI, I've been charging these prices for remote tuning for years now and my customers are happy to pay it.

Thanks
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Okay your FOI, It's not my opinion. Your talking about quality of tune and think your better since you charge more? Ray is great at tuning Subarus his results from e-tune beat most of the these other dyno "pro tuned" setups for half the price. I would say he is on par with Jorge Carrillo. Matter of fact there are only 4 tuners that will ever touch any cars I own.
Ray Arroyo
Jorge Carillo
Ryan of 1320
Jeff Evans of Evans Tuning

Here are results/graphs and info just some of the recent tunes.
Dyno Graphs:
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...ad.php?t=99609
Site:
http://www.turbotektuning.com/

Anyone paying more than $250(if that) for an e-tune is crazy. If your putting down 400+hp while pushing 95+% IDC you might as well have it on the dyno with a controlled cooling area.

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I will never pay that kind of money for a E-tune..........because I have never paid for any of my tunes



GL Ed.

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GL Ed.
Exactly my point

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