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Old 06-14-2002, 11:32 PM   #1
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Question home brew turbo?

Hi guys, newbie here. I am not a Scooby owner... yet. I drove my friends RS for a day a few weeks ago, and had an absolute ball. I am a turbo guy from way back, when turbos were concidered voodoo. I was wondering what would be the best/cheapest impreza coupe to get and what would be the best path to turbo it. Turbo the stock engine. engine swap ect. I have mainly seen the impreza as a "winter beater" , not a performance car. I realize the error of my ways . Any suggestions? I appreciate any hints/clues offered.


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Old 06-15-2002, 12:05 AM   #2
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before kastle tries to bite you

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=185230

read that, its the sticky at the top of the forum.

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Old 06-15-2002, 12:06 AM   #3
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Good thing I got to ya first. Might want to check out the sticky at the top of the forum. It should answer many questions ( except how to mod a RHD harness to LHD) any way what do you want from the car?
Reliability? Motor swap. You can run a J-spec motor in J-spec tune or a usdm motor either way factory reliability.
Torque beast? Turbo the 2.5 Just Be prepared for alot of tuning if you want it to be reliable and powerful. Also due to torque they tend to eat the stock tranny if not careful
Supercharger is also a unique way to go. DNT Performance and cobb are both coming out with kits. Rimmer kits are god IF you can get all the parts.
Me I'm going STi Ver3 Swap. Stay tuned to this forum for a full build-up.
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BTW before I get flamed I know the turbo 2.5 can be Very reliable when properly tuned. Just showing the Noob the pros and cons of each choice.
DOH! Brad beat me to the punch!
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Old 06-15-2002, 12:11 AM   #4
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/me bites?



Yes, please read the F A Q.... It's there for a reason
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Old 06-15-2002, 08:54 AM   #5
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Ok guys, thanks for the "Kid Glove" treatment. I read the FAQ sticky... and did a search, but didnt quite find what I need. I was looking for what US subies came turbocharged, and would swap into... like a 93-95 impreza. I know the legacy turbo will, what about the XT turbo, and was there a US market SVX turbo? Whenever possible I prefer to swap in a complete engine rather than convert one. As far as my expectations and usage, I would be happy with 200-250 hp. I want a reliable fun daily driver. One I can take out running back roads, or on a cross country run. I am not looking to use it as a race car, thats what my TT mustang will be, just as a fun driver I can also play around a bit with.
Kastle, TON ranks in my top 5 bands, saw em 4 times and even hung backstage with Pete for a lil while. Thanks again for the info.
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Old 06-15-2002, 09:38 AM   #6
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O.k Jim Here goes.
1: Legacy Turbo. Bolt on 160 hp and I think 180 lbft of torque 2.2 l
2: WRX 227hp 218 lb of torque. Modification required to fit into GC8 engine bay ( sits too far back)
3: XT-turbo. EA-82t a hell of alot of modifation needed. Maybe 140 hp.
If your looking to do a usdm swap go for the WRX it will be smog legal But will require alot of work.
Why not go for JDM swap?
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Old 06-15-2002, 10:20 AM   #7
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O.k Jim Here goes.
1: Legacy Turbo. Bolt on 160 hp and I think 180 lbft of torque 2.2 l
2: WRX 227hp 218 lb of torque. Modification required to fit into GC8 engine bay ( sits too far back)
3: XT-turbo. EA-82t a hell of alot of modifation needed. Maybe 140 hp.
If your looking to do a usdm swap go for the WRX it will be smog legal But will require alot of work.
Why not go for JDM swap?
Ben,
OK, so I will forget about the XT. I can get a Legacy turbo engine for just a few hundred bux, with harness and ECU. Where I live they dont smog cars, so that isnt a concern. I am building a street racer and raising kids so i am trying to do this as inexpensive as possible... "Having my cake and eating it too". I think I will look deeper into the legacy swap. I can make a few of my own upgrades, and from what I have been reading it isnt a bad platform to do some mild modding with later. The cost of doing a JDM swap, initial purchase and shipping, seems a little high for me "at this time". After I get the stang going and pulling in a lil bit of "extra" money then maybe. I could always give the legacy powered on to my GF


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Old 06-15-2002, 07:20 PM   #8
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SO, Am I reading this right? You want to do a turbo engine swap for a few hundred bucks. And you want it to fast.

I hate to say it's not going to happen, but it's going to be tuff.

First if you do find a ej22t for a few $100 it's going to be old and worn out, so reliable it's not. Then your going to just put it into a mid 90 Impreza, if that's going to be fast you'll have to upgrade the brakes, suspension, rear end and transmission.

A low price tag all for that is going to be around $3000 not including the car.

Hears what I would do if I could do it over again.

I would start with a mid 90 Impreza then get a good front clip from a STi or whatever make sure that they throw in the rear end, shafts, rear brakes and all you can get.

If you do the work your self a low price should be in the 10 to 12 grand range, including the car.

You'll end up with a really nice car, with low miles that will run like a champ. Good luck.
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Old 06-15-2002, 08:26 PM   #9
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If I do a soobie I want it to be fun... not nessessarily fast. I have the mustang for fast. Doing an engine rebuild , if the engine I get is weak, is no problem. I want to try this out, legacy engine, to see if I like it... if I do, then I would be able to justify a JDM swap later. Did Canada get the WRX before us, my friend with the RS said he knows a guy up north with an older one.


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