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Old 07-06-2010, 09:21 PM   #1
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Hi all - A couple years ago I went out of town for a week and didn't realize I was parked under a pine tree. It had dripped all over my car in spots and baked there all week. I eventually got it all off but there are these slightly raised lighter spots left behind.

They literally look like burns, if it was skin. I'm sure the only answer to get it fixed is to get resprayed but that's way out of my budget. I wouldn't mind making some attempt to smooth it out the best I can though, and make do with what I can. Would you recommend that I by an entry level buffer and use polishing compound or the like? or perhaps give clay bar a try?


Also (this is body related, but not sap related, but I didn't want to make a new thread like a chode):

I have a medium sized dent on my front passenger fender. It broke through and has flaked off the paint. I plan on getting some fine grit and some touch up paint and try to airbrush it "good enough", but I have some questions about that first:

1. I think that if I can manage to take the fender off, I can pop that dent out at least better than it is now. Is that relatively easy? I can see the bolts under the hood, but I'm guessing I have to take off the nose to get the rest? Is that too much of an undertaking?

2. Assuming I do pop the dent, sand and primer the spot, what should I use to clear coat the spot? Or is the touch up paint a one step band-aid process?

Thank you very much. (and my ol' 04 wrx thanks you too)
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:36 AM   #2
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you can try all of this and get mediocre results or you can just take it to a shop and have them respray the fender. small panels like that arent that expensive to fix and paint. And you will be happier with the final outcome and longevity of the paint.
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:53 PM   #3
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Well, because of the aforementioned sap damage I would then have one awesome, shiny fender making already-bad paint look even worse. You know?
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Old 07-12-2010, 02:04 PM   #4
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If they have been on there for some time, your clearcoat may be ruined. You can try removing it with windex or alcohol, then a rubbing compound of some sort. May not net the best results as a re-spray though.
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:02 PM   #5
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Oh, I'm certain a respray would make it look brand new and I'm sure the clearcoat is wrecked in those spots. I know anything *I* do will just be a bandaid, but I'm really just looking to see if there's an "ok" solution that would make it look better than it does now. I just can't afford a complete respray.

It's also *exactly* my luck to drop thousands on paint and then blow the motor, hehe.

I mean, worse comes to worse - she's my wrx and I love her and would rather she run nice and look like she's been in some combat than have perfect paint but sitting on blocks.
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:53 PM   #6
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$50 roller paint job...do eettt!
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:45 PM   #7
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Hahaha, now you're talkin!
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:35 AM   #8
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don't laugh @ the roller idea... I ahve been painting my own stuff (spray not roller) for going on 20 years now, I am no expert but I can hang... I have seen AMAZING results with the roller systems people are playing with.

its a VERY long process... because for the best finish they literally, roll... let it cure for up to a week, wet sand that layer, apply another layer... rinse, lather, repeat.. 4-6-8 times.

There is a Chevelle or a Lemans or Road Runner... anyway late 60s early 70's mid-body muscle car that is all over the web that came out amazing... I think he had MAYBE $200 total in the materials & then all of his "free" labor.

Just saying.. don't knock it... do some surfing... its truly crazy.

how to:
http://carpainting.wetpaint.com/page/Roller+Method

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...0&fpart=1&vc=1

one of hundreds of hits from google.

Back to the OP. Can you post pics of the dent & the sap marks? what panels are the sap marks on? Surprisingly enough WRB is VERY forgiving when it comes to panel color match & doing spot repairs...



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Old 07-14-2010, 08:24 AM   #9
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Woah. I thought it was a joke, was literally thinking a Wagner power roller. I do have a really nice air brush though. I'll check out those links! I'm most curious about the curing process...like I wonder if i can drive it, what if it rains, etc.

I'll snap some pics as soon as the sun comes back out, but the tree got me pretty good. Mostly my hood and roof. Even got some on the black rubber trim bit. I'm fairly sure I a got all of the sap off at this point but it took me a longtime and whats left is just damage.
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I was semi-joking. I am actually doing it now to a project car. I am using yacht/marine paint though. Stuff is pretty durable, I have tried scratching it with my fingernail and have had kids/people who walk with stuff scrape stuff against it. This is layer 3 cut with 10% mineral spirits, I still have 3-4 layers to do. Like TX mentioned above, it's a lot of work but in the end I spent maybe $100.


Sunroof/Roof before:


As it sits now:



^ That's a CF hood btw. I am into the "sleeper" look
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Beh, sorry for the delay. Here are a couple pics of the sap damage and the dent.

It was a cloudy, kind of rainy day when I took these unfortunately. You can see them a lot better in the sun.

This is my roof, you can kind of make out the various spots.


Here's a close up of one of the spots. I don't think it's raised, at least much. I've gone at it with various "tar/sap removal" products so I'd be surprised if that was still actual sap and not just damage, but...well it's possible.


Here's a pic of that dent on my front driverside fender. I plan on at least sanding and covering it up with SOMETHING this weekend or next as to at least stop the rusting while I figure out what to do.


I have a few other dings that aren't very unique so I won't bother with pictures. It just pisses me off to no end that people are so careless. And it's bad enough to bang your door into someone elses hard enough to make a dent, but the one on my fender is just...inexcusable. That's not a shopping cart, some jackass HIT me and did nothing about it.
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Hrmm, have you tried a rubbing compound or alcohol swipes/windex? Would need to wax after though if you went this route.

As for the ding, may want to get that pulled out. Looks too deep to just bondo over and sand out. Looks like you do have surface rust on there so may want to get that taken care of before it gets worse. Rust = cancer, spreads like wildfire.
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