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Old 07-08-2010, 08:43 PM   #1
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Has anyone tried Dry Wash-n-Guard? I had a friend who used to use it but he passed away years ago and I was wondering the long term use. Also what is a popular choice for the dash? I have always used Armour All.
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Old 07-08-2010, 10:28 PM   #2
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Armour-All isn't the best choice for dashes...I've heard conflicting stories of it doing more drying than conditioning of plastics. I'd switch to something like Meguiar's natural shine for a low gloss or ultra shine for a high gloss finish. Or there's always 303 Aerospace Cleaner but it doesn't smell as nice. Don't know about the other product you listed.
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:32 AM   #3
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Has anyone tried Dry Wash-n-Guard? I had a friend who used to use it but he passed away years ago and I was wondering the long term use. Also what is a popular choice for the dash? I have always used Armour All.
….I’m still not totally comfortable with rinseless washes let alone waterless ones. Even when I use a rinseless like ONR (Optimum No Rinse) it’s only on a lightly soiled vehicle and I will still usually rinse the car with DI water. I’m not saying waterless solutions don’t work, just that I am not that comfortable with them. Regardless of how well a product encapsulates debris, all it takes is a small, sharp piece of grit caught between the wash media and the paint to scratch your finish. Yes, this can happen with traditional washing as well but the chances are slimmer considering the water pre-rinse and the amount of soap solution you’re using during the wash (providing more of a chance for debris to be flushed away). The nice thing about rinseless products like ONR is that you’re still using a few gallons of water in a bucket in the process (again, providing more a chance for debris to be flushed away and less of a chance that it will be caught between the media and the paint). Either way, if you’re curious about it, do a search on a detailing-specific forum like Autopia to get an idea what others experiences are/were. You may even pick up some helpful tips from those users and/or suggestions for other/newer products they like better.

As for interior dressings/protectants, what characteristics are you looking for in a product? Personally (for the interior), I hate anything what leaves behind any level of shine. I like to keep the OEM finish which is usually very matte on surfaces like the dashboard to help prevent glare. One of my favorite, readily available, OTC products is Meguiars Quik Interior Detailer. The latest version has UV inhibitors in it and it leaves no perceptible shine whatsoever and no residue. It is very similar to the ever popular Eisnzett (1Z) Cockpit Premium (which I have been a long time user of). They both have a nice, fresh, clean, citrus-like smell that doesn’t linger. 303 AP is a great product but it will leave a satin finish which I simply don’t like on my interiors. ….the smell is another story. Some folks like a shine though and there are plenty of products available out there for that.
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Old 07-09-2010, 02:21 PM   #4
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/\ I forgot about the quick interior detailer...

Hey Kean, maybe you can lend some credence to this - one of my friends swears by basic Windex for a matte OE-finish clean on the dash. I contended that it didn't contain anything that would remotely condition the plastics so it's not a good idea. What do you think?
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Old 07-09-2010, 02:32 PM   #5
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^ windex does not protect. its a glass cleaner w ammonia.
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Old 07-09-2010, 03:55 PM   #6
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/\ I forgot about the quick interior detailer...

Hey Kean, maybe you can lend some credence to this - one of my friends swears by basic Windex for a matte OE-finish clean on the dash. I contended that it didn't contain anything that would remotely condition the plastics so it's not a good idea. What do you think?
….window solutions are generally comprised of harsh cleaners/components that (while perhaps being efffective at cleaning glass) are not ideally suited for use on interior plastics/bits. If you look at the MSDS sheet for Windex Original (I guess what your friend is talking about) you’ll notice it contains things like ethylene glycol monohexylether, isopropanol (aka IPA, isopropal alcohol), butoxyethanol, etc. While other car-specific cleaners (like Meguiars QID I mentioned earlier) may contain similar solvents/cleaners, you have to keep in mind that the actual formulation (ratios, chemical interaction, etc.) has a lot to do with the performance and characteristics of a given product. ….which makes them more friendly for those specific surfaces.

Obviously I am generalizing here since there are crappy products out there that really don’t work as advertised but I think you get my point. In either case, Windex Original has no conditioning/protectant properties that I know of. Products like Meg QID (on the other hand) does. If I’m not mistaken, SC Johnson doesn’t market Windex Original as a multi-surface cleaner anyhow. ….that’s why they offer products like Windex "Multi-Surface Cleaner" (ammonia free) for that task. If I were your friend and simply had to use a Windex product on my interior, the latter would likely be my choice.
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Old 07-09-2010, 06:28 PM   #7
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Thanks for the info. I guess the old wash and shammy way is best. Windex is my choice for windows though. As for my dash I thought about a dry or ligtly damp cloth for dust but will check out Meguiars.
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Old 07-09-2010, 06:58 PM   #8
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Thanks for the info. I guess the old wash and shammy way is best. Windex is my choice for windows though.
….well, now you’re opening up a whole other can of worms. Techniques, tools and product choices vary so what way is best really boils down the individual and their needs, funds, expectations, etc. I’ve had a number of folks approach me asking what I use or what I personally recommend. I usually respond with my own question asking them what they currently use, what their typical routine consist of and what they like/don’t like about the products, methods, etc. they’ve chosen. ….and even then there are multiple answers/solutions that will likely work for their scenario.

….so, when you say the “old wash and shammy way”, that kind of covers a lot of ground and many variables. There are a lot of things one can do during a traditional wash that could be much worse than other methods.

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As for my dash I thought about a dry or ligtly damp cloth for dust but will check out Meguiars.
….wipe-downs with a water dampened, soft cloth is perfectly fine. I like products like MEG QID and 1Z CP simply for their light cleaning ability, clean scent and (in Meg case) UV protection. ….whether the inhibitors actually work, that’s another story.
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Old 07-10-2010, 01:28 AM   #9
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That is some pretty good tips......
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That is some pretty good tips......
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Old 07-10-2010, 06:33 PM   #11
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+1 for cockpit premium

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turtle wax ice interior cleaning is really good..its the only thing i use for my dash and everything plastic in my car
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