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Old 07-10-2010, 09:00 PM   #1
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Exclamation Recommendations for new summer tires

What up peeps.

It's that time of the year again, and I'm due for new summer tires. Got about 10-15% left on my Kumho SPT's.

I"m probably going to order through tirerack and ship to point roberts to save at least $50-60 on shipping costs.

I've narrowed my selection on two choices:

Hankook Ventus V12 Evo - 225/45/17 - $368
Sidewall Style: Blackwall
Serv. Desc: 94YLoad Index 94 = 1477lbs (670kg) per tire
Speed Rating "Y" = 186mph (300kph)
Load Range: XL
UTQG: Treadwear: 280
Traction: AA
Temperature: A
280 AA A
Rating: 8.4

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General Exclaim UHP - 225/45/17 - $384

Sidewall Style: Blackwall
Serv. Desc: 91WLoad Index 91 = 1356lbs (615kg) per tire
Speed Rating "W" = 168mph (270kph)
UTQG: Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A
380 A A
Rating: 8.3

Shipping to pt roberts: $58.

I've viewed the specs and have compared both of them according to tirerack's comparo charts. Pretty similar. Hankook has the slight advantage in cornering but GE has the advantage on treadwear.

Just wanted to see if any of you suby enthusiasts have used either or of the above tires and what you thought about them. Also, I'm contemplating if I should go for a 225 or a 215 size.

Your opinions are greatly appreciated.

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Old 07-10-2010, 10:17 PM   #2
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I have the Hankooks V12's in the 225/45/17 size and love them but to be fair I haven't tried anything else on my as a comparison.
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Old 07-10-2010, 10:41 PM   #3
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I just went through this very choice. Replacing my SPT's...

Was also looking at Exclaims, but settled on Potenza RE760. I like asymetric for rotatability, and they ranked higher on the reviews. Was more money though ($520), but I think they'll last longer than the others.

If you're gonna pay $385 for exclaims, you might as well pay $400 for another set of SPT's.. I think they're a better tire.
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Old 07-10-2010, 10:57 PM   #4
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Here's the Car and Driver test of these tires. The Hankooks came in 2nd, the 760's 4th. The Exclaims weren't included in the test.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...mparison_tests
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Old 07-11-2010, 01:58 PM   #5
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Old 07-11-2010, 02:16 PM   #6
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I've got a set of UHPs running 225/45R17's on my Legacy. I find that the sidewalls are soft (not that that's a bad thing) compared to my old snow tires that were previously mounted on my wheels (Yokohama AVS Wintersports). I haven't pushed them at all, but they seem to be fairly comfortable and quiet. Do make note that they are rated as "M+S" tires and some people run them through the winters of Vancouver but the tread pattern pretty well has no siping for any cold traction! YIKES! Even though they are "M+S" marked, General themselves do not recommend them for mud and snow use.

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Old 07-11-2010, 02:51 PM   #7
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Do make note that they are rated as "M+S" tires and some people run them through the winters of Vancouver but the tread pattern pretty well has no siping for any cold traction! YIKES! Even though they are "M+S" marked, General themselves do not recommend them for mud and snow use...
The M+S rating granted to tires is based on the its ratio of tread voids to tread blocks. Actual winter or mud performance testing is not required.
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Old 07-11-2010, 03:10 PM   #8
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Old 07-11-2010, 04:32 PM   #9
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I have a set of the Hankook's you're considering and I'm not liking them all that much.....You get what you pay for!!

They aren't the best wet tires and when I push it hard around corners the sidewalls feel like their going to give in...

My favourite wet tire of all time are the Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 (something like that) and the Azenis RT615's had much stronger sidewalls than these things and the dry traction was much better.

Wanna buy mine? They only have about 1500 km's on them.
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Old 07-12-2010, 02:01 AM   #10
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I've got a set of UHPs running 225/45R17's on my Legacy. I find that the sidewalls are soft (not that that's a bad thing) compared to my old snow tires that were previously mounted on my wheels (Yokohama AVS Wintersports). I haven't pushed them at all, but they seem to be fairly comfortable and quiet. Do make note that they are rated as "M+S" tires and some people run them through the winters of Vancouver but the tread pattern pretty well has no siping for any cold traction! YIKES! Even though they are "M+S" marked, General themselves do not recommend them for mud and snow use.

LaterZ!
Darren!!
I've read a few more reviews, and other users have also claimed that the sidewalls were pretty soft and vulnerable, so that's something I have to consider thinking about
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Yokohama S.Drive
I have also considered these as well. So it's in the maybe pile.

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Not a fan of the stock OEM sti tires

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I just went through this very choice. Replacing my SPT's...

Was also looking at Exclaims, but settled on Potenza RE760. I like asymetric for rotatability, and they ranked higher on the reviews. Was more money though ($520), but I think they'll last longer than the others.

If you're gonna pay $385 for exclaims, you might as well pay $400 for another set of SPT's.. I think they're a better tire.
I did like the SPT's, but I was thinking if there was another set of tires that would be comparable but at a less expensive cost

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I have a set of the Hankook's you're considering and I'm not liking them all that much.....You get what you pay for!!

They aren't the best wet tires and when I push it hard around corners the sidewalls feel like their going to give in...

My favourite wet tire of all time are the Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 (something like that) and the Azenis RT615's had much stronger sidewalls than these things and the dry traction was much better.

Wanna buy mine? They only have about 1500 km's on them.
You sir, have a PM.

Thanks for the input peeps,

I'm just wondering also if there were any "performance" differences between a 215 and 225 tire size? What I'm looking for is a DD performance tire, that does quite well in dry and wet surfaces, but also has good treadwear, so it won't **** out on me within the first 10-15k. I only do spirited driving, and I haven't autoxed in years, so that's out of the picture, and no tracking
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I am running the Hankook Ventus V12 EVO in 245/40/17 stretched on 17x9 rims and I really like them so far for daily driving. It is not very loud, tracks straight and has better wet traction than my RT615. I always run my tires slightly over inflated so I don't have problems with the soft sidewall.

But if you don't plan on doing autoX or track I wouldn't bother with this tires.
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:27 PM   #12
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So... I ended up going with the hankooks and so far so good!

thanks for the advice peeps!
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:21 PM   #13
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Are you running the stock size? I am still unsure about the driveability of the tires in the wet yet... The once time I got to drive in the rain it felt slightly unnerving, but that could be due to it being the first real rain in a while or the high tire pressure/width I am running...
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:31 PM   #14
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running 225/45/17. Currently at 32 psi for each tire.
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:34 PM   #15
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:46 AM   #16
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old thread bump.
planning to get the Hankooks as well..

how are they holding up Justin?

-JC

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Old 02-10-2011, 06:17 AM   #17
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I've only used them a for a few months, and love em. Great in wet and dry conditions! Still have like 95% tread. Used for 4-5 months?
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:27 PM   #18
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I'm thinking Federal 595RS-R, haven't seen any locally
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Just ordered the RS-3 from CRackrack. - delivered to Sumas today, so I'll shoot down and pick em up.
will post review once I get some miles on them though !

I believe they were 120ish / each ... cheap = good
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