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Old 07-12-2010, 11:06 PM   #1
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Default Spark plug socket rubber stuck on spark plug

Hey guys,

I could use some other peoples input on a tricky situation. I was changing the spark plugs on my 2005 WRX when something pretty awful happened. When changing the second plug, the spark plug sockets rubber piece came off without me realizing. I went to put the coil pack back on and it was pretty tough so I tried putting a little force into it when I realized that the rubber piece was missing on the socket. Long story short, its wedged in between the spark plug and pretty much has no way of getting out because it's covering the socket. So basically I put a socket in there and its not reachable or it just spins and spins and spins (cause of the rubber).

Any one ever experience this before? I feel like I'm pretty SOL on this one. Should I have it towed to a mechanic that can drop the engine and take care of it? I finished the other three with no problem but this one is just... well... stuck. I'm thinking of picking up a dentist pick and trying to grab it out that way. I already tried pliers, screw driver, and anything reasonable. It's really stuck.

Would running it be fine? Just taking some shots in the dark but I believe the coil pack will reach the spark plug but wouldn't the engine temperature melt the rubber around the spark plug causing problems? Would spraying WD40 in there have an negative affects?

Any ideas would be helpful.

Thanks
Dan
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:12 PM   #2
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I personnally would cut it off. I never use those rubber holder things anyhow. They are nice, but like you, I find them more of a problem than a help.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:15 PM   #3
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Hey guys,

I could use some other peoples input on a tricky situation. I was changing the spark plugs on my 2005 WRX when something pretty awful happened. When changing the second plug, the spark plug sockets rubber piece came off without me realizing. I went to put the coil pack back on and it was pretty tough so I tried putting a little force into it when I realized that the rubber piece was missing on the socket. Long story short, its wedged in between the spark plug and pretty much has no way of getting out because it's covering the socket. So basically I put a socket in there and its not reachable or it just spins and spins and spins (cause of the rubber).

Any one ever experience this before? I feel like I'm pretty SOL on this one. Should I have it towed to a mechanic that can drop the engine and take care of it? I finished the other three with no problem but this one is just... well... stuck. I'm thinking of picking up a dentist pick and trying to grab it out that way. I already tried pliers, screw driver, and anything reasonable. It's really stuck.

Would running it be fine? Just taking some shots in the dark but I believe the coil pack will reach the spark plug but wouldn't the engine temperature melt the rubber around the spark plug causing problems? Would spraying WD40 in there have an negative affects?

Any ideas would be helpful.

Thanks
Dan
Long nose pliers should do the trick.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:15 PM   #4
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dental pick, same thing happened to me, took all of 20 seconds to get ti out with the pick, i believe i had to bend the pick to have enough room
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:19 PM   #5
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Thanks for the quick responses guys, I'll pick up both tomorrow and let you know how it goes. If its one thing I learned, if you use those rubber grommet things always check if they've fallen out after each plug. What a PITA today's been. 1 Hour to do all 3 spark plugs, 3-4 hours of trying to fish the stuck one out.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:25 PM   #6
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If you don't have a pick, a hacked up clothes hang could work.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:31 PM   #7
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^ A wire hanger is ALWAYS useful to have. Many a times have I used one...
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:32 PM   #8
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same thing happened to me! it sucked! i just used one of those hook tool things and got it out after hours of messing with it.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:43 PM   #9
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It always sucks when something goes downhill during a spark plug change because it usually means a walk of shame to the auto parts store if you're not lucky enough to have another car in the driveway. Last time I changed my plugs, I had to walk to the store to get one of those extending magnet sticks to get the socket out after it came off the socket extension. And what sucks even more is the time lost trying to fix the problem with the improper tools because you don't feel like walking to the store.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:48 PM   #10
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a tip to keep the rubber from falling out again, clean it real good and inside the socket too then a little epoxy or silicone to hold it in.
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:49 PM   #11
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***UPDATE***

So I got the dentist pick thing today and that did wonders. First try I got it out.

Heres some pictures of the little bastard.







Car runs like a champ now

Thanks for the input everyone

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Old 07-13-2010, 03:38 PM   #12
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Use two different spark plug sockets, one with the boot and one without. Use the one with the boot for removal, and the one without the boot for installation.
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Old 07-18-2010, 02:48 AM   #13
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Haha, the same thing happened to me on the last plug, man was it a pain to get out.
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Old 07-18-2010, 03:27 AM   #14
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^ A wire hanger is ALWAYS useful to have. Many a times have I used one...
When the rubber fails, the wire hanger ftw.
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:45 PM   #15
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Default Thanks!

First of all, I want to confess my undying love for you guys. This happened to me today and after a substantial amount of cursing, frustration and cursing I ran out of good ideas, searched and found this thread at the top of the googles.

Using your advice, I crafted the following device out of some spare wire, which worked perfect. Hope it helps some future folks.





Saved my day all in all
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:17 PM   #16
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newbie using search...i like it
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