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Old 07-21-2010, 06:59 PM   #1
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Default Summer E85 special

Tired of your car feeling down on power during the hot summer months? We have budget friendly solution that will not only make your car run better, but also stronger, up to 50whp+ in some cases.

Visit e85fuel.com for stations near your area to find out of it’s a good fit for your lifestyle.

Pros of E85:
Extremely knock resistant (oct rating can be 103+)
Affordable fuel prices ~30% less than gasoline alone
Runs cooler for better engine longevity

Cons of E85:
Initial startup can be slightly rough/can require more cranking especially during cold weather
20-30% Less fuel economy (overall range per tank will decrease)
More fuel is required for a given setup: IE. Min. injector recommended for a stock STi 550cc on E85 would be 715cc+.

This is the main reason for this special - to optimize power output for car with fewer modifications in order to add value, power, while reducing risk of failure.


04-06 STi (side feed) 05-06 LGT
Deatchwerks 850cc Side feed injectors
Injector installation
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Fuel pump install
Road or Dyno Tune(Dyno tune includes road tune testing afterwards)
$1000



02-07 Wrx & 07 STi, 06-07 LGT (topfeed)
Remove and reinstall injectors
Modify stock injectors
Walbro 255 Fuel pump
Fuel pump installation
Road or Dyno Tune(Dyno tune includes road tune testing afterwards)
$700

08-10 WRX & 08-10 STi, 08-10 LGT
Remove and reinstall injectors
Modify stock injectors
Walbro 255 Fuel pump
Fuel pump installation
Road or Dyno Tune(Dyno tune includes road tune testing afterwards)
$800

Options
w/ T1 Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors +$400 to Top Feed options
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:03 PM   #2
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Old 07-22-2010, 06:06 AM   #3
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If only there were more stations in Houston. Or if I could switch back and forth... This would be the perfect time for me too!
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Old 07-22-2010, 10:18 AM   #4
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Cullen there are several E85 stations in Houston. Visit www.e85fuel.com to find one near you. I've been running E85 in the legacy for over a year now and i've never had problems finding e85 anywhere, including Houston. Now it's possible you may have to drive 10-15 mins to find a station, but they are there.
-Mary
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Old 07-22-2010, 10:39 AM   #5
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Cullen there are several E85 stations in Houston. Visit www.e85fuel.com to find one near you. I've been running E85 in the legacy for over a year now and i've never had problems finding e85 anywhere, including Houston. Now it's possible you may have to drive 10-15 mins to find a station, but they are there.
-Mary
Would I have to change anything other than my tune? I've already got the Walbro but I think my injectors are only 740cc. I guess I could always change back later right?
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Old 07-22-2010, 01:34 PM   #6
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I have wanted to do a e85 tune since i got my ewg and dp. I only have 2 stations near me is the only reason i havent done it. I think that would hold me over till i can do a turbo swap. I will have to think about this great deal.
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Old 07-22-2010, 01:58 PM   #7
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Yeah, there doesn't appear to be any stations inside 610.
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Old 07-22-2010, 02:44 PM   #8
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I didn't have any issues when I drove my car down to Houston....but may have filled up just outside of town...can't remember all that well. Loving e85 tho
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:21 PM   #9
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So, for an 08 Sti, injectors and pump are not mandatory? What are the long term issues with running E85 in a car that was not set up for it (fuel lines, etc)? Thanks for any information. I have plenty of E85 stations near me.

JP
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Old 07-22-2010, 05:04 PM   #10
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Cullen there are several E85 stations in Houston. Visit www.e85fuel.com to find one near you. I've been running E85 in the legacy for over a year now and i've never had problems finding e85 anywhere, including Houston. Now it's possible you may have to drive 10-15 mins to find a station, but they are there.
-Mary
It'll be easier to just go here (the link above is going to take you through many loops).

http://e85refueling.com/
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:23 PM   #11
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Cullen there are several E85 stations in Houston. Visit www.e85fuel.com to find one near you. I've been running E85 in the legacy for over a year now and i've never had problems finding e85 anywhere, including Houston. Now it's possible you may have to drive 10-15 mins to find a station, but they are there.
-Mary
Talk to Keith and see what I'd need for the swap?
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:57 PM   #12
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So, for an 08 Sti, injectors and pump are not mandatory? What are the long term issues with running E85 in a car that was not set up for it (fuel lines, etc)? Thanks for any information. I have plenty of E85 stations near me.

JP
I've updated the post to reduce confusion on this topic; the 08 STi+ is the same as the one listed above but $100 more due to the increase in time it takes to complete similar work as the previous years. Injectors and pump are required.
As of today, I have not had any long term issues on any of my own cars, or clients. About the longest I can recall was almost 2 years ago when I first started testing with it. There are others who have closer to 3-4, maybe even 5 years on various forums who also have reported no adverse effects.
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:47 AM   #13
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E85 kicks balls - nice deals
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Old 07-24-2010, 01:13 PM   #14
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no freaking e85 stations anywhere near me STILL. south east texas sucks.
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Old 07-26-2010, 12:49 AM   #15
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Man, if I didn't need a clutch, I'd be all over this!!!! I guess the only thing that would suck is when I move to Boston....there are only 3 stations in the whole area with e85

You should add a clutch option with your packages. :-) Won't most people need to upgrade their clutch when changing over???
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:28 PM   #16
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Some of the WRX's and Legacy's will at some point, however the STi clutch will actually hold up for some time!
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Old 07-26-2010, 03:23 PM   #17
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I searched my area and it only pulled up Kroger's, 2 HEBs and NASA haha
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Old 07-26-2010, 04:57 PM   #18
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I searched my area and it only pulled up Kroger's, 2 HEBs and NASA haha
Are you in clear lake? This is the only one i found by me. If i had more stations id go e85 in a heart beat!

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Old 07-27-2010, 03:03 PM   #19
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I'm in 77379, Spring. My inability to find E85 is holding me back too, plus the cost of a new clutch haha
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:01 PM   #20
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Bump for a good deal!

If I wasn't so lazy and complacent with my life at the moment, I would convert. I get cheap E85 at work
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:49 PM   #21
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Here is a great example of a car we just converted to e85. Its a 2010 STi with a P&L rotated 3076 kit, modified stock injectors(~900cc), Walbro 255 pump, Grimmspeed TGV deletes, 8mm phenolic spacers, SPT exhaust, Forge BPV, other custom install goodies to keep the stock TMIC.

This graph shows the comparison between the two, there is actually more power available but we did not want to want to push the injectors too hard. Both tunes are equally conservative as this is still the stock engine and top mount. 93 pump, 11:0-10.8 AFR, e85, 11.3-4 AFR, ~22psi.



Here is also a comparison to the stock 2010 STi as well:


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Old 07-31-2010, 06:39 AM   #22
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Here is a great example of a car we just converted to e85. Its a 2010 STi with a P&L rotated 3076 kit, modified stock injectors(~900cc), Walbro 255 pump, Grimmspeed TGV deletes, 8mm phenolic spacers, SPT exhaust, Forge BPV, other custom install goodies to keep the stock TMIC.

This graph shows the comparison between the two, there is actually more power available but we did not want to want to push the injectors too hard. Both tunes are equally conservative as this is still the stock engine and top mount. 93 pump, 11:0-10.8 AFR, e85, 11.3-4 AFR, ~22psi.



Here is also a comparison to the stock 2010 STi as well:

Isn't that kind of lean for E85? Still nice numbers none the less.
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Old 07-31-2010, 01:40 PM   #23
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Isn't that kind of lean for E85? Still nice numbers none the less.
Lean would be a higher number such as 12.5:1, rich is a lower number such as 10.0:1.

E85 can be ran as lean as 12:1 as its very knock resistant.

Also in this case the wideband was reading gasoline, not the converted to the lambda output reading of ethanol. If it was converted to ethanol lambda then to AFR by the wideband it would be considered extremely lean. Hope that clears things up some...

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Old 08-03-2010, 02:06 AM   #24
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if i already have the fuel pump(i have a denso fuel pump) will i still need another walbro? for like dual setup? or will all i need is injectors?
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Old 08-03-2010, 02:14 AM   #25
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What is the lph of the Denso pump? This would not be a dual pump setup. And just FYI walboro actually asked for pumps from people running e85 to make sure they did not comrade or wear different.

Good luck and enjoy e85. It's smells like when you leave beer in a trash can... but adds some nice low end without changing much. And then add the increased top end and its a whole different beast.
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