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Old 07-22-2010, 02:59 PM   #1
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As the launch of the 2012 Focus draws closer, Ford plans to roll out several variants of its C-segment people mover. And at this year's Paris Motor Show, the Blue Oval will reportedly kick off the party with the debut of a new Focus ST which could finally make its way to America next year. The Focus ST is expected to be propelled by an uprated version of the 2.0-liter Ecoboost inline-four – the same mill fitted to the Euro-market Mondeo – but with output boosted well over the current 200 horsepower.

In ST trim the engine should produce about 250 hp and close to 260 pound-feet of torque, with all that twist coming in low in the rev range to balance high-revving fun with enhanced around-town driveability. The ST should hit 60 mph in under six seconds with combined mileage of about 29 miles per gallon (U.S.). Earlier this year, Ford acknowledged that it was developing a "global" performance version of the new Focus, but never said explicitly that it would be offered in North America. Here's hoping that changes in Paris this September.
Ford better bring it over...
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Old 07-22-2010, 06:31 PM   #2
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yes they better because then i'm trading my gti in
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:48 PM   #3
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:30 PM   #4
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Thank God Ford had the common sense to increase the performance in both engines inside the mustang. Now they don't have to fear that a lowly FOCUS ST will encroach on their sacred Mustang. Bring it ford. You need something to fill the gap below the 305 hp V6 mustang.

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Old 07-22-2010, 11:17 PM   #5
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yes they better because then i'm trading my gti in
I hope the interior can compete with VW
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Old 07-22-2010, 11:33 PM   #6
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RS or do not care.
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:32 AM   #7
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^"250 hp and close to 260 pound-feet of torque" = care for me.......
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:35 AM   #8
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If Ford brought this to the US tomorrow, none of you would buy it because you'd all be saying, "I'm waiting for the RS."
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:44 AM   #9
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If Ford brought this to the US tomorrow, none of you would buy it because you'd all be saying, "I'm waiting for the RS."
Don't forget...it's FWD too...
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:50 AM   #10
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I would think this depending on the price.
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:09 PM   #11
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Color me excited...though if they bring this to the US, I wonder if we'd still get a Fiesta ST as well.
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:33 PM   #12
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You can get Mazdaspeed 3 now, why wait?
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:35 PM   #13
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Not everyone likes the ear to ear grin of the MS3.

Hey Kubek, are you mad the Sonata sedan will have the beefy 2.0T motor?
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:41 PM   #14
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Hey Kubek, are you mad the Sonata sedan will have the beefy 2.0T motor?
No, I learned from driving '91 and '99 Miata that power isn't everything. I like this car the way is it now.
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:20 PM   #15
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I so pray that SVT installs the REVO knuckles on the base model. From what i understand they completely change the game on FWD high HP cars.
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:25 PM   #16
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An ecoboost Fiesta? That I am much more interested in.
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:25 AM   #17
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If Ford brought this to the US tomorrow, none of you would buy it because you'd all be saying, "I'm waiting for the RS."
Incorrect, I would buy 2 in 5 door to replace both our cars.

What you meant to say is, if the RS comes here, everyone will bitch about how expensive it is, say it's touching BMW 3-Series territory, then go buy a used STi for $25,000 and still dump $10,000 into it.
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Old 07-24-2010, 11:25 AM   #18
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Don't forget...it's FWD too...
So is the RS. Unless that's what you meant.
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Old 07-24-2010, 05:42 PM   #19
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Old 07-24-2010, 06:08 PM   #20
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If Ford brought this to the US tomorrow, none of you would buy it because you'd all be saying, "I'm waiting for the RS."
Nope. I think anything north of 250hp is too much for FWD.

If the car has 230-250hp and is well balanced I'll take the ST.
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Old 07-24-2010, 07:06 PM   #21
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The 2.5L turbocharged inline five-cylinder engine generates 300hp (224kW) at 6,500rpm and 325lb-ft of torque (440Nm)between 2,300 and 4,500rpm. Acceleration from a stop to 100km/h (62mph) takes just 5.9 seconds and the car carries on to a top speed of 263km/h (164mph). Pricing in Europe will reportedly be set at €39,000 ($51,644). Despite the rapid performance, it's fairly efficient, rated at 33.6mpg US (7.0L/100km) extra-urban and 17.5mpg (13.4L/100km) in town for a combined average of 25mpg (9.4L/100km), which translates to an average CO2 emissions of 225g/km. Both are due in part to the relatively low 3,227lb (1,467kg) curb weight.

Based on the same core as the Focus ST, the RS adds power, handling and appearance modifications to improve the car’s ability to put its power to the ground and direct it down the road, track or gravel path. To keep the potent engine from creating unmanageable torque steer, the engineers designed the car with a unique suspension called the ‘RevoKnuckle,’ which enables the car to keep the intended direction of travel even under heavy throttle. This works in conjunction with a Quaife automatic torque biasing limited-slip differential. Combined, the Focus RS obviates the need for AWD and the attendant weight gains of the extra differential and driveshafts.

“Front-wheel-drive was our preference all along. All-wheel-drive systems add cost, weight, inertia and consequently, fuel consumption. Compensating for the significant weight of an all-wheel-drive system requires dynamic compromises we preferred not to make," said Team RS Chief Engineer, Dirk Densing. "If you can achieve the performance you want without steering disturbance, then front-wheel-drive is a better performance car – lighter and with a more precise, linear steering response than AWD. With the work of our advanced research team in Aachen, we were able to achieve this and deliver something genuinely different.”

http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1...us-rs-revealed
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Interesting info in the new EVO on the RS500 vs the Cosworth STi. They chose the RS based on their perception of better steering feel and confidence VS the obviously faster STi. I still want a ReVo based Focus ST.
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Old 07-25-2010, 02:15 PM   #23
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The 2.5L turbocharged inline five-cylinder engine generates 300hp (224kW) at 6,500rpm and 325lb-ft of torque (440Nm)between 2,300 and 4,500rpm. Acceleration from a stop to 100km/h (62mph) takes just 5.9 seconds and the car carries on to a top speed of 263km/h (164mph). Pricing in Europe will reportedly be set at €39,000 ($51,644). Despite the rapid performance, it's fairly efficient, rated at 33.6mpg US (7.0L/100km) extra-urban and 17.5mpg (13.4L/100km) in town for a combined average of 25mpg (9.4L/100km), which translates to an average CO2 emissions of 225g/km. Both are due in part to the relatively low 3,227lb (1,467kg) curb weight.

Based on the same core as the Focus ST, the RS adds power, handling and appearance modifications to improve the car’s ability to put its power to the ground and direct it down the road, track or gravel path. To keep the potent engine from creating unmanageable torque steer, the engineers designed the car with a unique suspension called the ‘RevoKnuckle,’ which enables the car to keep the intended direction of travel even under heavy throttle. This works in conjunction with a Quaife automatic torque biasing limited-slip differential. Combined, the Focus RS obviates the need for AWD and the attendant weight gains of the extra differential and driveshafts.

“Front-wheel-drive was our preference all along. All-wheel-drive systems add cost, weight, inertia and consequently, fuel consumption. Compensating for the significant weight of an all-wheel-drive system requires dynamic compromises we preferred not to make," said Team RS Chief Engineer, Dirk Densing. "If you can achieve the performance you want without steering disturbance, then front-wheel-drive is a better performance car – lighter and with a more precise, linear steering response than AWD. With the work of our advanced research team in Aachen, we were able to achieve this and deliver something genuinely different.”

http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1...us-rs-revealed
Rumormill: Next Focus RS to get all-wheel drive with electric motors

by AutoblogGreen Staff (RSS feed) on Jul 23rd 2010 at 11:02AM
Despite driving only the front wheels, reviewers have heaped praise on the current Ford Focus RS's handling and its ability to put 300 horsepower to the road thanks to some nifty suspension and driveline tricks. However, when the next-generation RS rolls into town (assuming that it becomes a reality) it may well have all-wheel-drive courtesy of an electric motor driving the rear axle.

According to Autocar, the proposed car would use a higher output version of the Blue Oval's 2.0-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder driving the front wheels and an electric motor at the rear. This would allow for both on-demand all-wheel-drive and electric-only drive at low speeds. If this plan proceeds, it would be Ford's first through-the-road hybrid, although French automaker Peugeot has firm plans to introduce at least two vehicles with a similar configuration in 2011.

Other alternatives reportedly being studied by Ford are an even higher output gasoline engine (sans motor assistance), or use of the next-generation power-split hybrid that debuts in 2012. However, both of these options would involve sticking with front-wheel-drive and could be problematic if Ford wants to surpass the output of the current RS.

I can use Google too, except I check the date of publication, yours is January of 2009.



http://green.autoblog.com/2010/07/23...ectric-motors/
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Old 07-25-2010, 02:34 PM   #24
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The new RS is AWD
It doesn't exist yet.
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Nor does the new ST, but yet we are talking about it.

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It doesn't exist yet.
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