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Old 12-29-2010, 02:04 AM   #1
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I just purchased some borla headers on ebay. They are not new, but have never been used. My question is, do the Borla headers have a Borla logo or serial number on them anywhere? I don't see any identifying marks on these headers and I want to make sure that this is not a knock-off before mounting them up. If any one has a pic of theirs that would be greatly helpful. This is for a 2003 2.5RS.
Also, do the Borla headers come with bolts and gaskets to mount them?

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Old 12-29-2010, 08:33 AM   #2
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If you didn't buy it from a Borla reseller or Borla themselves and you have no documentation that states Borla then it is probably a KNOCK OFF bka borla replica

If you didnt pay $250+ in new condition they probably ARE NOT Borlas

Don fret they will fit

Also the dead giveaway is that Borlas DONT come with bolts or gaskets for the STUD holes LOL I always laugh at the eBay guys that supply 8 bolts when there are clearly 6 studs on the engine exhaust side for all EJ25's
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Old 12-30-2010, 07:50 PM   #3
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Real Borla have a tack weld on the runners flange that bolts to the motor... Replicas all have solid bead welds.
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:44 AM   #4
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Real Borla have a tack weld on the runners flange that bolts to the motor... Replicas all have solid bead welds.
This is correct. There is also no Borla stamped on mine anywhere... yet they came from Borla lol.

How much $ were they? Just curious. PM me if you don't want to post here.
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Old 12-31-2010, 12:10 PM   #5
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Look for cracks. If they're cracked, they're real Borla's. If they aren't cracked....they're probably the cheaper (but better) knockoffs....

Seriously, the tack welds at the head flange is a good way to ID them. The Borla's are tacked on the outside and fully welded on the inside.
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Old 01-02-2011, 04:44 PM   #6
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I paid $220 for them, which I thought was a good deal. They are tack welded on the outside of the flanges to it appears that they are real Borlas. Hmm, I didn't know they had more tendancy to crack than the cheap ebay ones.
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:31 PM   #7
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About the cracking: It seems to be pretty random. I have heard of people that have them for 6 months and they crack, mine was on my car for 3 years and never cracked. Apparently there are different version of the same EJ25 headers that Borla has gone through. I have been told that the 3rd gen are the most resilient against cracking, but I don't know much more than that. I also don't know how to identify different "generations" (which shouldn't surprise you after finding out that it is so hard to even figure out if they are real Borlas or not) haha.

I painted, wrapped, and repainted mine. Depending on your climate that may or may not suit your application. I am in Rochester, NY (4 seasons, about 4 months of winter) and decided it was the way to go after some research. I'm sure anybody you ask will have their own opinion on the matter.

Hope this helps
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:57 PM   #8
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Rudgers is correct... Borla has changed the "material" of the headers over a period of time and herd that the newest additions don't crack from the type of steel they use now. I could be wrong but i also herd this from another person as well... Best thing would do is call Borla directly and ask.
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Old 01-05-2011, 11:16 AM   #9
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Have people had any issues once they re-welded the headers if they crack?

Also, how do the bolas compare to say these OBX EL headers? Looks like the OBX gets rid of the restriction at the cats by replacing with a single cat?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-F...Q5fAccessories
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:04 PM   #10
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well I imagine that re-welding them would be fine. But.... most people don't have the resources to re-weld stainless without some good equipment. It's isn't nearly as easy as tacking some old exhaust pipes together with a stick welder...
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:49 PM   #11
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if you can find out which generation they are, that would help. as already said the newer gen borlas are MUCH less prone to cracking. The cheaper knockoffs are still the way to go sadly. I had a pair on my 05 for 3.5 years. No issues ever.
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:25 PM   #12
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That sucks, and I convinced my wife that spending the little extra for a brand name is worth it since they should last longer. Things are not as they should be
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well you can re sell them and get back what you paid and get the knock offs.. or you can just roll with them. your location isn't snowy.. but lots of rain etc can help lead to the cracking.
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I just put my 3rd(new gen) set of Borlas on. They have improved over previous versions. I checked where my last 2 Borlas cracked and they have improved those areas as well as other areas. The reason I put my Borla back on is cuz they peice of ***** OBX EL header. I found a couple cracks at the collector had a friend fix them. Then found a 5 inch crack at one of the bend right off the block. I liked/noticed the performance diffenrence between the Equal and non-equal, equal being better. The sound is totally different between the 2 systems.
I'd say go with Borla if you buy from a dealer and get the million mile warranty. If from ebay go with the rep. Borla's.
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I am about to buy uel headers off of a 2005 2.5i for my 98gt. I have a 2.5" cat back system now and just want to get rid of the old raspy sounding headers. Any suggestions? Has anyone here done this?
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