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Old 07-27-2010, 12:34 PM   #1
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Subaru Stars how do i get started in competing

I want to get into competitive driving and i don't know the best route of doing it... please leave me advice, info, etc.
Also I live In washington state and wanted to know if there are any subaru/auto events to watch or be involved in?
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:38 PM   #2
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Karting
AutoX

Great ways to learn for cheap(ish/er) and most importantly you can make some friends with experience and knowledge.
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:39 PM   #3
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I want to get into competitive driving and i don't know the best route of doing it... please leave me advice, info, etc.
Also I live In washington state and wanted to know if there are any subaru/auto events to watch or be involved in?
Thanks
Do you have lots of money?
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:41 PM   #4
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Thanks. What exactly is carting?

and not exactly but i am good and coming up with what i need
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:46 PM   #5
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Old 07-27-2010, 01:15 PM   #6
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Hi Cainen, if you're near Seattle, you may want to check out PGP Motorsport Park. In particular, they have three racing series, (Summer Saturday series, Wednesday night series, & Enduro series) where you can show up and race wheel to wheel. Besides giving you a good taste of competitive driving, and measuring yourself against a benchmark (the fastest drivers will likely be fairly talented), it would also give provide an opportunity to meet others with similar interests, some of whom may be auto-crossing, or have their own karts (because dw's advise was excellent).
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Old 07-27-2010, 01:29 PM   #7
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^All good advice.

I started by autoxing with the local scca region for a year and a half then went to a track day/ driving school. Then started going to NASA HPDE's and worked my way up.

Karting is also a very fun/ cheaper way to learn. I'm seriously thinking about trying to get into it for budget reasons.
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Old 07-27-2010, 01:40 PM   #8
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rallycross, fun in the dirt with your normal car w/no significant mods needed to get started.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:55 PM   #9
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Look at your local chapter for all of the major clubs (NASA, SCCA, BMW CCA, Audi Club, PCA, etc.) and sign up to do some HPDE events. You will have an instructor in the car to teach you the basics, as well as classroom instruction. You can work your way up from there and eventually do competition school to earn a race license. Also, if you have any local kart tracks, many have arrive and drive racing series where you can pay a modest fee and race wheel to wheel in their karts. Because the karts are all the same, it's very competitive and fun.
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:00 PM   #10
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I went to track days at road courses prior to doing auto-x or karting.

Starting off what you want more than anything else is seat time, seat time, seat time, seat time. You want time in a seat improving your driving skills. It is more important than what you are driving or what form (karting, auto-x, rally-x, track day).

My view is this:

Auto-X: low expense, huge time sink with little seat time. Unless you are serious about competing in auto-x and willing to spend at least 4 weekend days a month 8 months out of the year, to me this just is not worth it. I mean you spend a whole day just to get 8 minutes of seat time. If you are going to do this at all I would recommend an auto-x school like evolution. One positive thing though is that almost universally people who are good at auto-x are good on track. Not everyone who is good on track is good at auto-x.

Karting: easy to get lots of seat time, expense can vary. This is really area dependent as to what is available. If you have somewhere available that has public 9hp karts for not a lot of money you can get a lot of seat time and learn alot - if you have someone who can coach you. Seat time in a kart also seems to be a multiple effect of seat time in a car whether auto-x or track. So whatever you learn - good skills or bad skills - you learn them fast in a kart. With a coach I think this is the most valuable seat time you can get - I wish I had been more aware of these facilities and their benefit a long time ago. Oh and I don't mean like a professional coach - but someone who has instructed others on driving line and threshhold breaking and can stop you from forming bad habits you would develop if left to your own devices.

Track days: good amount of seat time, more likely to learn about the nondriving aspects of competition such as maintenance and repair, can quickly get pricey. The thing about track days is that it does get people hooked in a way that auto-x and karting doesn't. However, most people go out early on with too much power and believe they are fast and never learn to drive well unless they have a really dedicated instructor who reins them in and works hard to keep them on their marks.

I could have afforded karting way before I started doing track days and wish I had known that when I was younger - if there were facilities available I could have afforded doing karting any point in my life after I got my first paycheck job at 15 1/2. And had I started in karts and put time into them I think I would be a better driver today. Even now if I spend a day in karts I learn more than I do spending a day in an STi. My son can drop incredible amounts of lap time for every 100 minutes he spends in a kart on any kart track.

Oh and a lot of it is our cars - WRX, STi and Evo can hide poor driving making it difficult to identify and improve - you see mistakes in lap times and telemetry but they aren't so obvious in the car as our mistakes don't have the same consequences as they would say in a miata or corvette.

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Old 07-28-2010, 03:14 PM   #11
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Hey CainenB

If you are near Seattle come on out to the ICSCC road racing event at Pacific Raceways this weekend. It'll be a great oppurtunity for you to meet some racers and take in some exciting action.

You can pick up free tickets here
http://irdc-racing.com/irdc_july_race.htm

If you come out, stop by my paddock. I'll talk your ear off for awhile and can answers some questions for you also hopefully.

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Hey CainenB

If you are near Seattle come on out to the ICSCC road racing event at Pacific Raceways this weekend. It'll be a great oppurtunity for you to meet some racers and take in some exciting action.

You can pick up free tickets here
http://irdc-racing.com/irdc_july_race.htm

If you come out, stop by my paddock. I'll talk your ear off for awhile and can answers some questions for you also hopefully.

Steve

^^^this. personal responses like this to newcomers is why racin' cars can be so f'n cool. no matter if it's track or rally or whatever, getting out there to meet and talk with racers face to face on race weekends is the right way to get started out right.

it's kind of backwards to just jump in a car and start racing. you got to start out learning all the stuff you didn't know you didn't know. then when it's time to jump in the car, you have SO MUCH more of a clue what's up.
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:56 PM   #13
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:13 PM   #14
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Track days are a great place to start but be careful what car you use. Don't use anything that you cannot walk away from.
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:30 PM   #15
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AutoX and RallyX are both very approachable, keep your eyes peeled in the NWIC forum for events around the region. Pretty much, show up, pay a small fee and have your car inspected to make sure it isn't going to blow up on the course, listen in on a drivers meeting, and GO! There are checklists on here somewhere to make sure your car is ready. (it doesn't take much) Both of these are very low risk, as well. RallyX is held in an open field for the most part, and AutoX is just in an open paved area.

Check this site out. I don't remember the washington group site
http://www.oregonrally.com/
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