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Old 08-21-2012, 11:29 AM   #51
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I dont experience anything you mention and I'm sitting pretty low. Mine holds the road very solidly after bumps. The coils are my only suspension upgrade as well(just like you). But I have a 2011 so that may explain some of the difference.

I transferred the factory boot and factory bump stop I believe. There is a sheet that says what is required to transfer.

My front left coil squeaks a little when I hit bumps... I'd like to know how to fix that tho.
hmm..this makes me sad! What is wrong with them!
yea I don't think the 2011s have that severe front fender gap like mine so I was trying to rid myself of that as well lol so I was lower than the suggested height initially.. Yea as far as I know, mine had a dust boot there and H&R said the bump stop was internal...so as far as I know I transferred the right things..
...I would like to keep them but as it is right now, i am not sure.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:32 AM   #52
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[quote=TGUN11;37869622]Speaking of.. I forgot to post pics after the install. I love these! H&R street performance coils with the front raised front in the box settings(could use just a touch more raise in the font)



Looks great ! What are the rims?
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:36 AM   #53
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Thanks man.

Bremmer Kraft BR05 18x8

They have a BR09 that is almost identical now. I love them. Super affordable and I think they look great. I painted the chrome ring around the edge tho... I hated that.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:56 AM   #54
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Thanks man.

Bremmer Kraft BR05 18x8

They have a BR09 that is almost identical now. I love them. Super affordable and I think they look great. I painted the chrome ring around the edge tho... I hated that.
Ugh hate that chrome ring never looks right , just makes the rim look smaller IMO..

so the ride is ok? I just dont' know what my issue is.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:00 PM   #55
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Ugh hate that chrome ring never looks right , just makes the rim look smaller IMO..

so the ride is ok? I just dont' know what my issue is.
Ride is great... actually had someone comment they couldn't believe I was on coilovers it was so good.

I know that's probably the exact opposite of what you wanted to hear... I'm sure the guys from Perrin will chime in soon
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:03 PM   #56
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Ride is great... actually had someone comment they couldn't believe I was on coilovers it was so good.

I know that's probably the exact opposite of what you wanted to hear... I'm sure the guys from Perrin will chime in soon
yea i feel the tears coming lol.

Um where are you dialed at on yours?
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yea i feel the tears coming lol.

Um where are you dialed at on yours?
I didn't move the rears... and I dialed the fronts up 3/4" to raise the front. I'll probably go another 1/2" since the ratio isn't 1:1.
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I didn't move the rears... and I dialed the fronts up 3/4" to raise the front. I'll probably go another 1/2" since the ratio isn't 1:1.
Meaning u didn't move from how they came in box? Yea I noticed that right now being dialed at exactly 5mm above lower spec range in front and back the car is actually lower in front but only noticeable from inside. From outside the rear gap is smaller but inside I can see the back is higher the door sills in front are lower lol so its like doing a nose dive so to speak

Oh how those mudflaps holding up? I actually trimmed my front one cuz it was dragging initially but now that I keep raising it probably wasn't necessary ..:/
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:08 PM   #59
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Sorry for the delay getting back to you on this. You won't have to transfer anything else over for the install.

The only reason I can think of that could be causing your problem is the front sway bar has flipped somehow or there is some kind of defect with the shocks, not letting them move properly.

I have the H&R coilovers on my STI, and they are super comfortable.

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Hi, I have a question, I recently installed street performance coilovers in my 04 WRX. I used the OEM tophats. Doing this for first time, I didn't see any other item to transfer over except for the conical washers in the front. Was there anything else I needed to move over? That being said. I am now dialed at 165 mm front and 220mm rear. I raised it up from a previous 160 and 215 thinking it was too low because I am experiencing quite a bounce on all types of roads, even a seemingly flat highway. It got a tiny bit better but I would say its not settling as quickly as it should. My stomach jiggles from the inside and by the end of my commute I am about done with it lol... I would say its a small pogo stick effect.. However, I keep reading how well these handle bumps and how well they ride on highway this and that. I have no other upgrades, no sway bars , end links, or bushings or anything. I dont' feel I should be experiencing this? Is there something I did wrong ?
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Sorry for the delay getting back to you on this. You won't have to transfer anything else over for the install.

The only reason I can think of that could be causing your problem is the front sway bar has flipped somehow or there is some kind of defect with the shocks, not letting them move properly.

I have the H&R coilovers on my STI, and they are super comfortable.
Oh wow I hope its not a defect!:/I do have the upgrade curse so this is possible lol
How do I know if sway bar is flipped?

Couple of questions:
1. What year STI
2. Where are you dialed at?

I am noticing that most people are dialed pretty high if not at full height so I have a feeling that I may just be too low and not in the "sweet spot" if you will .
I haven't been driving car n will adjust this wknd..I will keep bumping up 5mm at a time and hope this will soon subside! I will report back ..thanks!
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If you could post up some pictures of the front and rear sway bar installed on the car, we can tell if it's flipped.

My STI is an 06, so it is a different part, but very similar.

I can't measure my ride height right now since it's in the body shop, but here's a tiny picture to get the idea of what it's set at. I should be getting the car back early next week and I can measure it.

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If you could post up some pictures of the front and rear sway bar installed on the car, we can tell if it's flipped.

My STI is an 06, so it is a different part, but very similar.

I can't measure my ride height right now since it's in the body shop, but here's a tiny picture to get the idea of what it's set at. I should be getting the car back early next week and I can measure it.

Okay thanks! I am not sure if I'm even able to post pictures yet lol.. well my ride height looks sorta like this, however, there are some differences ... I am sure you have 18s, and I'm sure the initial fender gap wasn't as HUGE as mine in the front. I definitely have dropped over 2 inches in the front as it was insane how huge it was. So in your case you may be up higher in the threads on the coilovers and would still have this nice gap reduction.

With that being said and after extensive reading on dampers and the internal bumpstops I really believe I am just too close to them, being lower, the shock travel is too short getting to the bump stops rather quickly , not enough stock stroke so all the its doing is transmitting the shock loads right to the chassis at a much higher effective spring rate with no real damping going on...serious harshness which is pretty much what I think I'm feeling.

I will be adjusting hopefully tomorrow and seeing if this will resolve itself?

Now my other question is? Are these shocks removable as to be able to modify the bump stop?? I am thinking not lol.
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Yep I have 18s, running 245/40 18s on 18 X 9.5 +38. Actually when I put the coilovers on my car, the rear was super low, the front was pretty low, but not super low, but I had to raise both the front and the back some.

The H&R coilovers aren't double adjustable for height, so you lose a little travel when they are adjusted to be really low. You can send me pictures at tech@perrinperformance.com.

The H&R shocks have internal bump stops, so they can't be modified. Plus you wouldn't want to mess with them anyway. Cutting or removing them will wear out the shocks quicker.
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Yep I have 18s, running 245/40 18s on 18 X 9.5 +38. Actually when I put the coilovers on my car, the rear was super low, the front was pretty low, but not super low, but I had to raise both the front and the back some.

The H&R coilovers aren't double adjustable for height, so you lose a little travel when they are adjusted to be really low. You can send me pictures at tech@perrinperformance.com.

The H&R shocks have internal bump stops, so they can't be modified. Plus you wouldn't want to mess with them anyway. Cutting or removing them will wear out the shocks quicker.
Yes mine were realllly low in rear when i put them on, I have stock upgrade 17s and I don't know the exact specs. The fronts actually were a llittle higher than I wanted. So I first raised rear and lowered front to just where tire meets the fender, sorta like how yours looks but after a horrible gut wrenching sea sick ride, I then i realized I was pretty low out of the recommended range being there so I moved it up some more., and got a minor improvement.
I can send the before and after shots to give an idea to that email you gave me if it helps?
You would see the horrendous gap and how to even get to the top of my tire I had to move it down probably 2.5". I am sure bigger rims would help.. and I am sure that is too low for these coilovers. I'm glad the current models don't' have this problem.

when you say double adjustable I am assuming you mean I cannot preload the spring just adjust the height?

I mentioned the bumpstop modification because I have seen it done on Bilstein Struts which also have internal bumpstops, where the shock comes out of the body, but I wouldn't' even attempt that unless I was really dying to go lower lol..right now its the bounce resolution I want gone.

My other ride, 370z, has stock spring rates at 422f/450r so its comparable to how these should feel. It is a stiff but controlled ride and its resolved with no excessive or unnecessary bounce. This is what I think I should b feeling with these but I don't. I am hoping its a height issue and I can get these to a similar comfort level.

I will hopefully be working on these tomorrow morning and can report good news!
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H&R has specs of what they recommend the height to be adjustable from -1.2"- -2.3" in the front, and -1.1" - -1.9" in the back. It's hard to say where you are now unless you measured the height before you installed the coilovers.

When I mean double adjustable for height, I mean the shock threads into the mounting point, so you can lower the whole coilover without having the adjust the springs. Some coilovers are like this.

The H&R street coilovers are supposed to be very comfortable.
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H&R has specs of what they recommend the height to be adjustable from -1.2"- -2.3" in the front, and -1.1" - -1.9" in the back. It's hard to say where you are now unless you measured the height before you installed the coilovers.

When I mean double adjustable for height, I mean the shock threads into the mounting point, so you can lower the whole coilover without having the adjust the springs. Some coilovers are like this.

The H&R street coilovers are supposed to be very comfortable.
Yes , I had called them for this spec. 160-180mm in front and 215-230mm in rear measuring from center of top strut bolt to the top of spring seat. I believe I am dialed at 165front and 220 rear but I am not sure I am accurately getting these measurements. I am sure its based on stock weight, I do have subwoofer box in trunk which adds to weight in rear and I dont' know if I have anything else that would effect this range.

ohhh.. too bad its not double height adjustable then!

Yea it sounds like they are supposed to feel good and NOT wish the ride was over!
Anyway I sent some pix of my before and afters to get an idea.

Thanks for all your help thus far!
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soo... If anyone cares, before I did anything else I did a push down test on the car where I tried to put force on the front and back to see if there was any give going downward. It was like pushing down on a rock, absolutely nothing! I would conclude I was at bottom of shocks.

I raised it up some, 7mm in front, 12 mm in rear. I think the back needs more still... The ride has improved but I think it could get better so I will raise it in the back some more because I am still feeling excessive jiggle/boingyness in rear at certain times. Other wise the ride will be great if I can just get rid of that! I also do have a hitch installed underneath the rear bumper so that adds some overhang weight perhaps..not helping things !

Thanks for all the input on this!
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these coilovers are lifetime warranty, do we just send them in to H&R for a rebuild for free? I heard some of the H&R's design are not rebuildable, is this model rebuildable?

I have been searching on their website but there is no info regarding their maintenance services, do u have any info on this?

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No sport springs for 2012 wrx hatch? :/
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No sport springs for 2012 wrx hatch? :/
Your suspension is the exact same as mine. They will fit your wrx perfectly.

I love the setup on my 2011 hatch.
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these coilovers are lifetime warranty, do we just send them in to H&R for a rebuild for free? I heard some of the H&R's design are not rebuildable, is this model rebuildable?

I have been searching on their website but there is no info regarding their maintenance services, do u have any info on this?

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The H&R coilovers do have a lifetime warranty, but the warranty will really just cover the shocks if they are physically leaking, or if they're really loose. What kit do you have? I can check to see what H&R says if they are rebuildable.
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installing my springs tomorrow. Hope all goes smooth. I already installed the upgraded sways and endlinks. Thanks Perrin.
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Just as an FYI, I had the H&R Coilovers on my 04 WRX with original top hats with the bouncy issue. I switched both the front and rear top hats to Group N...and...... A significant improvement!!!! My initial thought that these were the issue was correct. After a month of wasted time these were the main issue besides being way too low. For WRX owners, this is a definite must. the tops on WRX and the STI are different and I have had the chance to experience the ride on both. HAS TO BE CHANGED OR YOU WILL FEEL SICK LOL.
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i have a 04 wrx wagon that i want to lower. i dont think im going to go with coilovers but new springs and struts. dow you guys have springs for my car and how much would they lower it?
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