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Old 08-01-2010, 01:59 AM   #1
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Default Karts vs Door to Door Racing

Is there even a good comparison?

I want to actually be on the track and be a bit more dedicated. I don't like doing 2-3 events and calling it a year. I want to be able to compete for points and actually try to make it out to every event.

I think the easier one to do would be the Karts, and probably pretty fun, but not sure about the idea of Go Karts vs a car. Anyone have any input? I could probably afford to do either, but the Karts would be much more affordable.

Anyone in here race Karts or MPRA?
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Old 08-01-2010, 02:20 AM   #2
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Karts can easily run you into the 10k range to compete, this includes maintenance and initial cost, trust me, it's probably easier to build your car maxed out for a certain, dedicated class and improve your driving skills than it is for you to build a kart and be competitive enough to place.

Speaking with Kart people at yearly events, you can see what these karts can do to your pocket book.
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Old 08-01-2010, 02:31 AM   #3
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Well one comparison is tires, a set of tires will last 1/2-a full season, and only 175-200$,

Compared to slicks that is pocket change. I would buy a used kart which you can be competitive in the 3k range.

Neither sport really is cheap I guess I shouldnt make it sound that way, but I would think based on what I have found, that Karting is thousands less?

I do like the idea of an actual car vs a kart though .
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Old 08-01-2010, 02:46 AM   #4
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id rather get a honda and do MPRA than do karting.
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Old 08-01-2010, 02:55 AM   #5
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im with brodie. honda race cars are cheap till they get stolen
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Old 08-01-2010, 03:32 AM   #6
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Why a Honda in particular?
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Old 08-01-2010, 03:35 AM   #7
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Why a Honda in particular?
Cheap to buy, cheap to build.
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Old 08-01-2010, 03:54 AM   #8
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If you wanna do some fun wheel to wheel, although not weekly, try Lemons, its way fun.

I've been eying Camaro Mustang Challenge, although the only people I personally know that compete are....I don't really have a positive word to say, so I'll chose odd. One of them seems pretty cool though, and the people I know make up maybe 5% of the region.

I haven't done Karting, but I will say Lemons is a LOT of fun.

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Old 08-01-2010, 04:04 AM   #9
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Honda Challenge! would be awesome to race in.
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:30 AM   #10
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the WOW wednesday Kart gp is a lot of fun. while it is the slower karts, we seem to have a pretty good time. the next one is the 11th. pm me if you are interested.

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Old 08-01-2010, 11:54 AM   #11
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are they all tag rotax karts at wow?
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:13 PM   #12
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I wouldn't get as much joy out of racing karts as I would cars. I'd rather build up a car that you can take a million different routes on than having the same kart as everyone out there. I really love racing, but I love building just as much. Strictly financially karts win, but it's just not for me.
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:28 PM   #13
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Auto cross is cheap and fun.
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Old 08-02-2010, 01:04 AM   #14
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id rather get a honda and do MPRA than do karting.
ya buddy!! i knew i liked brody for a reason. brent we have been discussing this all weekend. cars man!!
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Old 08-02-2010, 01:05 AM   #15
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Auto cross is cheap and fun.
and is also, not racing.........

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Old 08-02-2010, 01:11 AM   #16
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Your local Utah honda challenge racers:

Mine:


Randy Gibb 06 Acura RSX Type S:


Chris Mckoy 06 Acura RSX Type S:


Adam Munoa 01 Acura Integra Type R:


Like I said earlier brent, I have a RSX shell I could be talked into finishing for you.
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Old 08-02-2010, 01:12 AM   #17
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I would do karts over autocross anyday.

I think this is how i would rate them:

1.door to door mpra
2. karts
3. wow and do both haha.
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:17 AM   #18
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and is also, not racing.........
I'm not going to start the pissing contest on whether or not this is racing... I will, however say, that what you learn on a tight autocross course will 100% translate to karts, rallye, rallyecross, road racing, or just avoiding wrecks on the roads.

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... also, it's a lot of fun, and the Utah region has at least 20 events from March through October, at 4-5 different venues, so you get cheap and plentiful wheel time on different surfaces, rain or shine. If you decide to do a kart, you can bring it to the autocrosses as well. Utah had a national champion junior karter in 2009 and he has turned faster times than his dad and brother in a very well prepped E36 325is.
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:38 AM   #19
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I don't understand how driving a previously known and planned-for path all by yourself will help you avoid wrecks.

And again, he didn't say, "Karts, wheel-to-wheel, or Autocross?" he said, "Karts or Wheel-to-wheel?" Autocross is a COMPLETELY different beast than road racing or karting. He obviously wants the competitive nature of racing wheel-to-wheel against other drivers, which autocross is designed to remove.

I would be more inclined to race cars. But i'm... husky... and the disadvantage of my weight in a kart is more than enough to put me off of the sport. Also, there are a lot more variations within cars, and a lot more stuff to do. Which is part of the appeal to me at least.
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:18 AM   #20
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I'm not going to start the pissing contest on whether or not this is racing...
Then why did you come into a thread where someone asked about competitive door to door/wheel to wheel racing and think that suggestion "autocross" would be an appropriate alternative? I understand that standing around in an empty parking lot for 8-10 hours on a 105* summer day or in the pouring rain just to get 6-8 minutes of seat time is totally swell. I also understand the valuable skills you gain autocrossing will help you get that front parking spot at the mall the next day after Christmas.

Every kid imagines them self as a world class autocross, dreaming of driving the most famous parking lots in the world. Can you blame them? There is nothing like taking the infamous Northeast Burbank Walmat Parking Lot Corkscrew flat out at the very top of first gear! Or the back slalom in front of the Talladega Target rear loading docks. But really, when you meet the woman of your dreams and she asks what you do for fun do you really want to reply "I autocross my daily driver around cones in a parking lot." Or would "I road race at Miller Motorsports Park!" be a bit more dignified?

But all kidding aside... There over 22 local auto race day events every year, these include local club level racing, SCCA regional and national events along with the NASA national championships. You can even race with ALMS if you know the right people. They race rain or shine from 20-30 minutes at a time to 2 straight hours. This is all done on are different track configurations at the beat motorsports facility in our country.

And when it comes to Karts Vs. Cars, I'd 100% go with cars. Karts are fun and have there advantages. But I've heard several kart racers say "I'd love to start racing cars..." Yet I've never once heard a race car driver say "Ya, karting is where it's at!"

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Old 08-02-2010, 05:10 AM   #21
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^^What he said. Finish the Z Brent and start racing it. You wont regret it.
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:41 AM   #22
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i love karts and i'd love to have gotten into it when i was young, like 7 or 8. i'd still like to get into it, but maybe that's cuz i don't have a fast car
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:55 AM   #23
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I still want to get going on more track events, pay cuts from work for the past two years hasn't helped. But you don't need anything super fast to have fun and learn car control. A lot of Formula 1 and other pro drivers started out karting, so there's value in that, but they also switched to cars probably by the time they were teenagers.
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Old 08-02-2010, 12:05 PM   #24
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i have a ton of fun and am learning car control, but i still like karts haha. maybe i would lean less towards karts if i were able to go faster in the cars. i love racing my car though
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^lots of them still do a lot of off season stuff in karts.
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