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Old 08-07-2010, 11:35 PM   #1
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Default Nearing 100K time for a timing belt

I need to know what I need for a timing belt change. I am hoping to find a kit with everything in it but I am coming up empty. Can I get some help here?
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Old 08-08-2010, 06:15 PM   #2
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Old 08-08-2010, 06:45 PM   #3
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I need to know what I need for a timing belt change.
Ummm... a timing belt.

Anything else you do while in there is strictly optional and can be debated whether it's necessary. Look in the Service & Maintenance forum for all sorts of threads. Some people replace every damn thing on the front of the engine - water pump, timing belt tensioner, oil pump, cam seals, front main seal, all the idler pulleys, thermostat. I think much of that is silly and overkill. But you can price all those parts out on rockauto.com and make up your own mind.
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Old 08-08-2010, 08:48 PM   #4
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you'll also need some kind of tool to hold the crank pulley steady while you loosen the crank pulley bolt (i use a chain wrench and some old rags, cause the official subaru tool is over $100), and something to compress the piston on the tensioner (a 6" or bigger C clamp works good, so does a bench vise). a strong pin or small nail will also be needed for that part of the job to keep the tensioner compressed until you can install it and get the new belt on.

a 22mm socket will be needed for the crank pulley bolt, and a 10mm socket will take care of the bolts on the timing cover. be sure to spray some WD40 into those bolts before you try to loosen them, you don't want those things breaking on you. i think the rollers are held in by either 10mm or 12 mm bolts...i forget which size it was. a torque wrench is a good thing to have, but not completely necessary as the bolts for the rollers and timing cover don't need a whole lot of torque on them, and the crank pulley bolt tightens itself as the engine runs. other than that, a nice long breaker bar (or a cheater pipe) will help you get that crank pulley bolt off, and then a regular old ratchet for the rest. it's actually all pretty simple.
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Old 08-08-2010, 11:15 PM   #5
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I am not looking to do the timing belt my self I was hoping to save a bit by buying the parts my self and having a shop put them in. I just need to know what is recommended to be changed when the timing belt was done.
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Old 08-09-2010, 01:08 AM   #6
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Does anyone know if all of this will fit on a 02 non turbo legacy?
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Old 08-09-2010, 09:26 AM   #7
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Your link is AFU. The timing belt won't be the same, since the turbo cars are DOHC and your car is SOHC. Not sure about the cam seals. Tensioner is the same. Water pump might be the same, not sure. Oil pump will work, but isn't necessary. Thermostat and housing may be the same, but I think the turbo cars are oriented differently.

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Old 08-09-2010, 03:08 PM   #8
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sorry about the link and thanks for the info
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Old 08-11-2010, 07:43 PM   #9
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A longer accessory belt wrapped around itself and the a/c bracket works well to remove the crank pulley.

As for all the stuff on the front of the motor, we highly recommend changing the idlers, tensioner, and water pump. It's unlikely they will all survive the next 100k timing belt interval, and having one of those things fail usually takes out the belt and some valves. I've seen water pumps fail as early as 130k, and idlers generally don't last more than 150.

You should not get a turbo water pump. The outlet is oriented differently and the timing cover will not match up. There are also additional fittings for the coolant lines from the oil cooler and turbo.

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sorry to thread jack...

took the wrx to a shop today to change the timing belt and waterpump.
now the car lags after 5k rpm......does anyone got info about these?
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take it back to that shop and make them fix it. Why would you even ask in some random thread in the legacy section.
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:19 AM   #12
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take it back to that shop and make them fix it. Why would you even ask in some random thread in the legacy section.
haha i didnt even notice its in legacy section...my bad
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:49 AM   #13
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now i just sound like a jerk after you went through the effort to search and whatnot. Anyway, could be you're a tooth off on one of the gears, or it's completely unrelated. With a tooth off you generally notice right away at idle. Pretty simple to pull the covers off and check, but the shop that did the work should be handling that regardless.
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ok thanks bro....at idle runs good, im thinking that the ECU got reset and mess up my car...

i got DP, uppipe, intake, HKS cbe...no tune yet
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I called a shop in town and to do the timing belt, tensioners, water pump and idlers it will run me $905 plus tax. Am I getting ripped off or is this a fair price?
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I called a shop in town and to do the timing belt, tensioners, water pump and idlers it will run me $905 plus tax. Am I getting ripped off or is this a fair price?
I would say that it is a pretty fair price including parts and labour, but it is still a great deal of money to spend. Make sure that they are using reputable name brand parts. Going all out and getting everything done only makes sense if you are very happy with the car and plan on keeping it forever.

While you have the front of the motor apart you might also want to spring for the cam seals, radiator hoses (including the one off the thermostat), a new thermostat and the alternator/AC belts. The labour for this is basically nil as they are taking most of this stuff off anyways, and no would be a logical time to change this stuff as the front of the motor is all apart anyways.
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For that price, I'd learn how to do it, if I were you. Seriously, buying all OEM parts, you're still only out around $500.
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I am sure it is cheaper to do it myself but this is a big job and I dont have time to learn and have my car down. Thanks for the advice about the other parts that should be changed.
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Old 08-14-2010, 05:21 PM   #19
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I too want good parts so what brand names should I be asking for or looking for?
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I like the OEM stuff, but the gates kit seems to be of pretty good quality, and comes with all the idlers, belt, and tensioner.

Going online to a place like subarugenuineparts is the best way to get a good deal on oem parts. We can barely get a better deal.
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