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Old 10-10-2012, 12:03 PM   #26
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We made some to work w/ the SVX rotor drilled to 5 x 100.

Only a few people asked about it.

Making it is no problem at all - selling it is another story completely.
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:18 PM   #27
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We made some to work w/ the SVX rotor drilled to 5 x 100.

Only a few people asked about it.

Making it is no problem at all - selling it is another story completely.
I must say, if there was a bracket to use the z32 aluminum calipers with STi or LGT rotors, I probably would have gotten them.
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:40 PM   #28
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I'm working on a cheap 350mm and 380mm solution using 6 piston calipers for the front. The rotors will be the most expensive part if they are made for this application using aluminum hats, otherwise a redrilled rotor could be used.

Cant decide on the calipers yet but i do need someones old busted WRX hub for measurements. I'll pay shipping of course and probably make more than one set of brackets which you will get at cost.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:42 AM   #29
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I'm working on a cheap 350mm and 380mm solution using 6 piston calipers for the front. The rotors will be the most expensive part if they are made for this application using aluminum hats, otherwise a redrilled rotor could be used.

Cant decide on the calipers yet but i do need someones old busted WRX hub for measurements. I'll pay shipping of course and probably make more than one set of brackets which you will get at cost.
This is over kill. Not to sound rude but there is ABSOLUTLY zero need for a six piston caliper on any car unless you expect to be hitting high triple digit speeds on a regular basis.
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We made some to work w/ the SVX rotor drilled to 5 x 100.

Only a few people asked about it.

Making it is no problem at all - selling it is another story completely.
Pretty sure I spoke with you over the phone and you suggested using the lgt rotors. Iirc you used svx because the lgt dust existsat the time. If you made brackets for the lgt rotors they WOULD sell. Pair that with an h6 rear and you have fade free brakes at the track all day
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:02 AM   #30
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This is over kill. Not to sound rude but there is ABSOLUTLY zero need for a six piston caliper on any car unless you expect to be hitting high triple digit speeds on a regular basis.


Pretty sure I spoke with you over the phone and you suggested using the lgt rotors. Iirc you used svx because the lgt dust existsat the time. If you made brackets for the lgt rotors they WOULD sell. Pair that with an h6 rear and you have fade free brakes at the track all day
I can get a few made easily.

I need a caliper to mess with. Should I get an AL or Cast Iron? I think the AL one are getting rare.

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Old 10-16-2012, 10:19 AM   #31
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I can get a few made easily.

I need a caliper to mess with. Should I get an AL or Cast Iron? I think the AL one are getting rare.

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I don't doubt that. And they are known to flex anyway, we don't need a flexing caliper to possibly cause more pad knock back of the taper wheel bearing cars. Bit either way they are the same measurements.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:20 AM   #32
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Is there a difference in master cyl from sliding caliper wrx's to the 06-07?
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:57 PM   #33
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Well, what's really the driving force behind this? When I think of this particular brake mod, I look at it as a poor man's upgrade costing similar or less to Subaru 4 pots, but benefit from a larger rotor.

I can see where there would be lack of motivation in doing this if it cost similar to second hand STi Brembos.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:18 AM   #34
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Wrx 4 pots, useless ricer upgrade. You gain very little if anything at all other than a large selection of pad types.

Sti brembos, great, forced to use 17+ inch wheels, very expensive.

Z32+lgt rotors. Can fit 16's, Same pads as Subaru 4 pots, calipers can be found for $150 for the set, rotors about $120. Rotors are a good bit larger than Wrx OE, can handle more heat, not stuck with only 17 inch plus wheels.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:53 AM   #35
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I ordered some calipers from Cardone. $69/each + core.

I have my old proto brackets from the LGT setup so those should be a good starting point.

Calipers - $200
Brackets - $150ish at least
- That's $200 less than Brembo's give or take.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:26 AM   #36
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Well, Ken, I may ditch my Racing Brake 4 pot fronts just to try this out for isht and giggles.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:55 AM   #37
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The only "modification" that needs to be made is Subaru brake lines use a banjo bolt. Nissan uses a flare nut. Just get a small easy out and it will pop the brass flare out of the Nissan caliper. This takes seconds to do. I also sanded down the casting surface with sand paper and a block of wood to ensure the banjo washer sealed correctly.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:59 AM   #38
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To save on cost and parts being left on the shelf you could sell them as "made to order"

Also I would start an interest thread about these. This coming from a reputable vendor would get the ball rolling and help with people's general distaste of new ideas around here.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:09 PM   #39
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Wrx 4 pots, useless ricer upgrade. You gain very little if anything at all other than a large selection of pad types.
It's hardly a "useless ricer upgrade". The advantages of fixed, opposed piston calipers vs. sliding calipers are well known and proven. There is no question, having open tracked my car repeatedly with both setups, that the 4-pots are better than the 2-pot sliders. And that's not an observation that's limited to me personally, nor is it an observation that is limited to the Subaru platform (re: 2-piston PBR Cobra caliper vs. 4-piston Brembo Cobra R caliper on same rotors).

If you can get an affordable way to make the Z/2.5GT setup work, that's great. I might even change my setup when it's time to replace my DBA rotors. But there's no need to go overboard trying to make your case about why it's better than the other options out there.

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... and help with people's general distaste of new ideas around here.
I assume by "around here" you mean around the planet? Because there used to be a vendor that made adapter brackets, and they stopped doing so. Presumably, they didn't stop making them because interest was so high that they just couldn't keep up with production and didn't know what to do with all the money they were making.

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Old 10-17-2012, 12:32 PM   #40
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The only "modification" that needs to be made is Subaru brake lines use a banjo bolt. Nissan uses a flare nut. Just get a small easy out and it will pop the brass flare out of the Nissan caliper. This takes seconds to do. I also sanded down the casting surface with sand paper and a block of wood to ensure the banjo washer sealed correctly.

That's right - I forgot about that.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:44 PM   #41
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Will the banjo bolt thread in there just fine?
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:42 PM   #42
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It's hardly a "useless ricer upgrade". The advantages of fixed, opposed piston calipers vs. sliding calipers are well known and proven. There is no question, having open tracked my car repeatedly with both setups, that the 4-pots are better than the 2-pot sliders. And that's not an observation that's limited to me personally, nor is it an observation that is limited to the Subaru platform (re: 2-piston PBR Cobra caliper vs. 4-piston Brembo Cobra R caliper on same rotors).

If you can get an affordable way to make the Z/2.5GT setup work, that's great. I might even change my setup when it's time to replace my DBA rotors. But there's no need to go overboard trying to make your case about why it's better than the other options out there.

I assume by "around here" you mean around the planet? Because there used to be a vendor that made adapter brackets, and they stopped doing so. Presumably, they didn't stop making them because interest was so high that they just couldn't keep up with production and didn't know what to do with all the money they were making.

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I don't track my car as I don't make enough expendable income to justify doing so, nor do I honestly have much intention of running this setup personally. But I can not see much difference between a fixed and sliding caliper using the same rotor and same pad compound other than more clamping force via mechanical movement, but not enough improvement to justify tue price people want for those calipers.

Also, my comment was aimed more so towards the fact that people seem to do that swap simply for looks alone.

As for the global Z brackets. Correct me if I am wrong but those were primarily over seas, no? I can't remember what rotor they used but I seem to recall rotor machining being needed? After all of that you are close to an Sti swap cost. Machine cost, over seas shipping cost, z32 calipers were not nearly as cheap either. Because of the hassle and the fact their domestic market had a plethora of options (both oem and aftermarket) readily available is the reason they died off.

Onto the topic of fear of change or something new. All I personally ever see if 80% of the crowd following the status quo, best example. "dude! That's so dumb! Why would you get rid of your access port IT'S AMAZING ZOMG LIK TOTS MA GOATS!" oh yea? My open source cable cost me $50, sold the ap for $200, flashed a known good stg2 base map, gained substantially more power, recorded more agreeable af mixtures, went from 19mpg to 25mpg.
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Yes. Same size and pitch.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:38 PM   #44
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Is this for the fronts only or all corners?
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:52 PM   #45
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Personally I'm dying for some alternatives. Brembo's are a seriously flawed product. On the track the dust seals burn up. The only sleeved bolt seems to be the banjo. The mounting holes are prone to seizing and stripping. The bleeders likewise. Even replacing the OEM bleeder screws are difficult ($65 each... really?) A single rear 2 piston caliper is $700 from the dealer. The OEM rebuilt kit is 100 for just the fronts.

I'm in the middle of rebuilding mine and I'm really not happy. I think I should have gone with Wilwood. Screw dust boots!
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:08 AM   #46
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Is this for the fronts only or all corners?
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1567707

It appears the Nissan 2 pot rears will bolt up with an adapter or 2 pot backing plate, but it sits out further. I'm sure another bracket could be made that would make the caliper sit in about 3mm closer to the hub to correct that. Either that or find another rotor.
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I've got the calipers, my old SVX sized bracket, and a knuckle and of course a rotor so I can start fitting this up.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:45 PM   #48
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I've got the calipers, my old SVX sized bracket, and a knuckle and of course a rotor so I can start fitting this up.
I def want in when these are made! Group buy maybe??
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I'd be down for a group buy. I've had the calipers. I've just been trying to find some brackets.

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Working on it as soon as possible
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