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Old 08-15-2010, 01:23 PM   #1
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Default Interest check: rotated uppipe and downpipe without a full kit?

So, I'm considering having rotated piping made for my '02 WRX, since there are no companies that just sell the piping alone instead of an entire $3000 kit only available with their turbocharger, wastegate, etc.

The plan is, make a little adapter with a 44mm wastegate flange on it to go from the stock turbo flange on the uppipe to a t3 flange in a rotated location like in the greddy kit, and then make a downpipe that goes to within 8" of the rotated location so any turbo could be fitted whether it was v-band, 3-bolt, 5-bolt, or whatever by just swapping out the turbo elbow / o2 housing, like how downpipes for most other cars work.

Now, the question is, if I came up with this kit, threw a t3/t4 50-trim and a 44mm EWG on my car, made sure everything fit, and did all the testing, would it then be worthwhile to have a local fab shop make jigs for the piping and make 10+ copies of the kit, getting a vendor account, and doing a group buy? It *could* be sold as a kit with the uppipe adapter, precision turbo or tial 44mm wastegate, a garrett turbo put together by a local turbo builder, an o2 housing for that turbo and the downpipe, but with the turbo elbow being discreet from the uppipe it could also optionally be sold as just the uppipe adapter and downpipe without a turbo or elbow if you wanted to fit a borg warner, holset, or any other T3 flanged turbo. Either way, intercooler piping and intake would be up to the buyer.

So, think anybody would want to buy such a thing, or should I just not worry about copying the kit once I get it done?
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Old 08-15-2010, 02:26 PM   #2
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Turboxs is already doing this with their basic kit. If your kit was good, that would be great for competition, drive prices down , etc. IMO, if you were to offer such a basic kit you might as well have IC pipe options for the popular fmics out there. Not everyone lives near a fabricator and wants as close as possible to a bolt on install.
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Old 08-15-2010, 03:34 PM   #3
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what I'm getting at is this: in the 2-3 years that I've had my car, it's roughly halved in value, and *tons* more people are getting into the subaru scene around here, coming from hondas, DSM's, SRT-4's, etc. With any other car, you get a t3 manifold, a downpipe, and then put a 50 trim or a holset on and fab an o2 housing for that particular turbo, then get whatever silicone couplers and pipe you need to make it mesh with the intercooler you have. On subarus, there's not too many options like that yet, so most people you see mounting non-30R turbos fab their own uppipe and downpipe. It seems to me that if you don't have a fab shop next door or the skills to fab your own pipework, you have to drop the cash on a 30R, 35R, or stock location big turbo. If all you needed was an o2 housing, any muffler or welding shop could fab that.
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Old 08-22-2010, 01:00 PM   #4
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i am in the market for a up and downpipe now
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